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Posted by Slylee on Oct-07-2004 15:09:

Another gay advice thread...but mine's a little different

no relationship advice needed.



ok, so i think i have a problem with managing money...no that's a lie, i DO have a MAJOR problem managing money. it's an addiction and i can't stop spending. i'm sure it has to do with impulsiveness. anyway, is it gay to go to therapy about it? lol it really worries me because i plan on being extremely successful and rich, but you have to be smart about money to be those two things. Do you guys have any tips to help me stop spending? I don�t know what to do. Even though I know I have a few bills to pay, I still HAVE to have that pair of shoes or those jeans. Yesterday I sent my boyfriend balloons (flowers would have been gay) and it was like $40! I definitely don�t have $40 right now, but I still did it. I was like oh who cares. that�s bad.


Posted by UWM on Oct-07-2004 15:11:

I don't know if therapy will help, maybe it will. I used to have that problem too, but then for a while I was really broke during school and learned how to live on basically nothing and not buy anything I didn't absolutely need so now I have no problem anymore.


Posted by tranceaholic on Oct-07-2004 15:13:

Re: Another gay advice thread...but mine's a little different

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
no relationship advice needed.



ok, so i think i have a problem with managing money...no that's a lie, i DO have a MAJOR problem managing money. it's an addiction and i can't stop spending. i'm sure it has to do with impulsiveness. anyway, is it gay to go to therapy about it? lol it really worries me because i plan on being extremely successful and rich, but you have to be smart about money to be those two things. Do you guys have any tips to help me stop spending? I don�t know what to do. Even though I know I have a few bills to pay, I still HAVE to have that pair of shoes or those jeans. Yesterday I sent my boyfriend balloons (flowers would have been gay) and it was like $40! I definitely don�t have $40 right now, but I still did it. I was like oh who cares. that�s bad.


i am the same way...thats why i walk around with only 20 bucks or so in my pocket...i could spend like nobody's buisness...also i carry around like a low limit credit card and leave the big boys at home..so i guess best advice is leave ur credit cards at home and ur cash in the bank...carry around just enough for emergencies.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-07-2004 15:13:

Well I�ve made some progress. I used to go to the mall and buy clothes that I wasn�t necessarily crazy about. I would just like, �oh well, I need to buy something, this will do�. But now, I buy on a strict NEED TO HAVE basis rule and I don�t break it. If I try something on and it�s taking me several minutes to decide if I like it or not, I won�t buy it. I know when I HAVE to have something...I try it on, and I�m like, �oh hell yea�. that�s the only time I buy something now. So that�s a start.


Posted by UWM on Oct-07-2004 15:14:

I come very cheap with an easy return policy, you can buy me!


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-07-2004 15:15:

you don't need therapy...you just need a good smack in the face haha. ok no, but seriously...you're right...you won't be able to be wealthy if you don't setup a financial situation for yourself that will allow it. what is therapy really going to do? you already know your problem and you know how to solve it...just do it damn it!!


jason's tough love for the day


Posted by dj tek on Oct-07-2004 15:20:

keep yourself busy with other things then shopping/spending money... once you find something you can get a natural high on, managing $ will be a little more easier.


Posted by tribu on Oct-07-2004 15:24:

The big issue here is self-control. From your second post, it seems like you've already started to make progress in this area. Possibly what you need to do is sit down and write out (or use Excel) to make a budget based on about 95% of your known income. This allows you to set limits on what you can and can't spend, and also gives you a little bit left over to use how you want. If charging is your problem, zero out your balance on your credit cards and toss them. Get a new one with a balance less than one of your paychecks (not sure if you make cash, checks, salary). Get rid of your check cards, and use your atm card only in emergencies. Go back to hadwriting checks, it will make you cut down on spending (it takes more work, many places dont accept personal checks, and it's a hassle) and the check register helps you keep track of your funds. If you spend all the money youve set aside for your pay period, resist the urge to get more by enjoying one of the possesions you already have.

Buying something cause it looks hot is nice, but I bet you have alot of clothes which look good on you already, some you may not have worn more than 4 or 5 times. Why not use the wardrobe you have already? Clothes are pretty expensive, especially designer clothes and even a couple of blouses, pairs of jeans and other things can make money disapear fast. Resist buying new clothes unless you need to. For special ocassions, pull something rarely worn from the back of the closet, or pull a Marge Simpson and do some altering.

long post...sorry.

Short version:
Self control
Manage your money via a budget
Tailor your credit to your income
Dont buy clothes when youve got a closet full.


Posted by igottaknow on Oct-07-2004 15:24:

The act of buying something gives one a rush of happiness. As you start to get older you realize material goods only provide a temporary high. There are a lot more important things in life than material goods. I know when I'm down or stressed out about something, shopping tends to distract me from my problems. I see no problem sending him ballons, selfless acts are really kool. Oh one other technique buy with cash instead of credit. The realization of how much it cost makes you think about whether you really need it.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-07-2004 15:25:

well when I was 18, I got 2 credit cards and maxed them out and then after a while, I was going through a bad time in my life and I was kinda depressed with no job and stuff so I couldn�t pay my bills..so I just swept them under the rug, and I have bills in collections now so my credit is really bad. so that�s not a problem with me. I just have my atm card. I�m like about 3k in debt, but that�s so insignificant compared to other people�s debt, I really don�t feel like forking out the cash to start paying it off, because I�m hoping maybe one day I can just run into that kinda money and just pay it off you know? I DID get a car financed recently with my mom as a co-signer, so that will help to start repairing my credit, but I still have those other accounts that I haven�t even made payments on in like 2 years. lol I�m horrible. It�s very irresponsible of me...

hey don't those things disappear after 7 years? all of this started when i was like 19....i'm about to turn 23..it's not like I plan on buying property or anything at least until I�m like 30 and well into my career. by that time it�ll be 7 years since my bad credit history started. Should I say screw it?


Posted by UWM on Oct-07-2004 15:27:

They'll go away after 8 years.


Posted by tribu on Oct-07-2004 15:27:

Nope. It's seven years after you pay off a delinquent account. Not 7 years after the account is filed.


EDIT: Heres a possibly helpful link for you: http://scholarships.brokescholar.co...ditHistory.html


Posted by Rodrico on Oct-07-2004 15:31:

By the title of this thread, I swear I thought you had turned into a lesbian, im like "WOOHOO, this outta be a wicked thread". God im such a pervert.


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-07-2004 15:32:

in all honesty, i'm right with ya jamie. first off, being a student, i make a VERY limited income. and i love to throw it around on people. i mean, if i'm at the bars...i'm buying some people some drinks, i'm always sending packages to my ex in africa etc...i don't really have the shopping for myself problem so much, but i would go with what tribu said...

i think its good that you are starting to rebuild your credit. i actually have pretty great credit because i've always made payments on time and i've taken out car loans etc...but that's a good thing to start getting on top of now while you're still young.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-07-2004 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
The act of buying something gives one a rush of happiness. As you start to get older you realize material goods only provide a temporary high. There are a lot more important things in life than material goods. I know when I'm down or stressed out about something, shopping tends to distract me from my problems. I see no problem sending him ballons, selfless acts are really kool. Oh one other technique buy with cash instead of credit. The realization of how much it cost makes you think about whether you really need it.


Well it�s a combo of both. Shopping relieves my stress and brings me temporary happiness, but I also spend too much when I�m out. If I go out to dinner w/ my boyfriend and his best friend, if I have the money, I�ll insist on paying. Or I�ll be browsing online and I�ll see a shirt and buy it for my boyfriend for no reason. I love to buy people stuff and surprise them. I mean, I think I�m a pretty overall happy person. I�m pretty content with myself and stuff like that. I am having problems with my mom though and maybe that�s what�s making me sad on the inside. I�ve had probs with her since I can remember, she affects me very negatively. Do you think I shop because I�m miserable and I�m looking for something to make me happier?


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-07-2004 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
Well it�s a combo of both. Shopping relieves my stress and brings me temporary happiness, but I also spend too much when I�m out. If I go out to dinner w/ my boyfriend and his best friend, if I have the money, I�ll insist on paying. Or I�ll be browsing online and I�ll see a shirt and buy it for my boyfriend for no reason. I love to buy people stuff and surprise them. I mean, I think I�m a pretty overall happy person. I�m pretty content with myself and stuff like that. I am having problems with my mom though and maybe that�s what�s making me sad on the inside. I�ve had probs with her since I can remember, she affects me very negatively. Do you think I shop because I�m miserable and I�m looking for something to make me happier?


taking what you just said here into account...it sounds like you love to give people gifts because you are seeking acceptance and affection from those people. what you need to realize is that your boyfriend loves you...you don't need to buy him little things and surprise him all the time if you can't afford to. i'm sure he'd rather you be ok with money than to have an extra t-shirt no matter how sweet the jesture is...and that goes with your relationships with other people as well...


Posted by euphoria on Oct-07-2004 15:40:

You know what, I am the same way. No matter what advice anyone gives you it isnt going to help because you just wont listen. Face it! This is something that you like to do, and you are asking for advice to help you from doing something you enjoy. If you didnt enjoy it you wouldnt be doing it am I right? Its the remorse afterwards that gets you isnt it. When you realize if I didnt buy these shoes I could have paid this bill, or done something else so much better. Here is what I do now and it tends to help. I go window shopping and I go with no cash or credit on purpose. I spot out the things I like and see how I can work them into my budget when I get my paycheck. Most times when I come back to get the item its 20% off or some shit. Sometimes it pays to wait an extra week for the items that "just came out". This way I can at least say I got a good bargain and it was less impulsive which gives more logic behind my spending. I tell my BF not to let me spend money but it doesnt hepp because he cant be with me 24/7 and he says even if I try you always come home with something when I am not there so he has just given up. Or you can always shop online first and price match before you go out. If you still want to spend impulsively make sure what you are spending the cash on is the absolute best price you cant find. I will not encourage you to stop spending but I will encourage you to spend wiser.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-07-2004 15:42:

thanks for the advice tribu!


i can't get any credit cards, so that's good. i work full time at a law firm and get paid pretty decent money...enough to have a car payment and rent and a few other bills...but i go through my spending money like it's nothing.

i did just start school this week so i'll be very busy now. i have trouble prioritizing. i SHOULD be paying off those bills but instead i'm getting a new computer and i want to save up for tables. lol


Posted by Massive84 on Oct-07-2004 15:42:

Don't know if this is good advice.

Print some small pictures of people that live in the streets, or like poor people that live in thirdworld countries.

Put them in your wallet, each time you open it youl see it, and when you see it, you realize 2 things.

There are people who have it far worse than me, and i should spend my money wisely because i do have the opportunity to spend money.

Second thing you realize will be.
If i keep spending my money like that, ill end up like these people maybe, which you don't want to right?

donno, maybe it will help.


Posted by jcosgrove on Oct-07-2004 15:43:

fuck therapy.

just control yourself, if you wanna do it then you will do it, its like anything if you want it that much you can get there....


Posted by StereoPrincess on Oct-07-2004 15:45:

therapy would be a waste of money.

leave all credit cards at home. walk around with only a certain amount of money. have no way of getting more money. (this is a problem that i ran into) i would carry around a bank card but leave credit at home so to get more money i would just call and transfer cash into certain bank accounts and spend it.

the most important thing is to set a budget for yourself and also record for a month or two regarding your spending.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-07-2004 15:45:

lol@eyesofextacy that post made me laugh cuz it's so true.



floorfiller, maybe that's it but i can't really say because i don't have that feeling that no one will like me if i don't spend money on them. i know people like me because i'm cool lol but i'm sure that has something to do with it...like i'm trying to impress or something. but honestly, if you knew me very well, you would know that i'm the type of person who will give you the shirt off my back or walk over hot coals for you if i really like you, so i think a lot of it is also just cuz i love to make people smile and laugh. it brings me pleasure


Posted by tribu on Oct-07-2004 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by EyesOfExtasy
You know what, I am the same way. No matter what advice anyone gives you it isnt going to help because you just wont listen. Face it! This is something that you like to do, and you are asking for advice to help you from doing something you enjoy. If you didnt enjoy it you wouldnt be doing it am I right? Its the remorse afterwards that gets you isnt it.


Very nicely put. It's no secret that America (and increasingly the world) is a place where we are constantly bombarded with images and messages like: "Buy this product and you will be so happy!@@!one!" or for men: "Buy this product and women will want to have sex with you!1@@!" (equatable to happiness for some/most/all men). This has made the psychological "rush" of buying things even stronger. But with each strong rush, there is almost always an equally strong fall. Anyone who has used drugs knows that this is generally true. You like to buy things for others because you like to see them happy. But as FloorFiller said, these people will love and accept you whether you are buying them things or not. They get a rush of happiness just being in your presence and there is no need for you to transfer your purchasing rush to them. Just dont get caught in the idea that your presence is enough for people to fund you, managae your money/spending as Eyes of Extacy said and things should proceed nicely

quote:
i did just start school this week so i'll be very busy now. i have trouble prioritizing. i SHOULD be paying off those bills but instead i'm getting a new computer and i want to save up for tables. lol


My suggestion is to pay off your bills first. This would be a nice step towards financial responsibility. If you computer now can do the job, do you really need a new one?

*Dont forget to start saving for the future! It is never to early to start setting 20,30,even 50 bucks of each paycheck aside in a savings account...


Posted by Slylee on Oct-07-2004 15:51:

oh yea, and I have done what you said before princess�about just taking out a little cash and then leaving the atm card at home. I do that before I go to south beach to party. lol good idea, especially because I use the occasional party favors, and once those are in your system forget it.

and I can�t ask my bf to help cuz he�s useless and worse than me. he spends soo much money it�s ridiculous. his car payment is more than his rent, and he only shops at neiman marcus. lol at least I go to discount stores.


Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-07-2004 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee

floorfiller, maybe that's it but i can't really say because i don't have that feeling that no one will like me if i don't spend money on them. i know people like me because i'm cool lol but i'm sure that has something to do with it...like i'm trying to impress or something. but honestly, if you knew me very well, you would know that i'm the type of person who will give you the shirt off my back or walk over hot coals for you if i really like you, so i think a lot of it is also just cuz i love to make people smile and laugh. it brings me pleasure


well i know...i'm that way too hehehe. i guess i don't know what to tell you because i struggle with my own methods of self control. you could always resort to other methods of making your boyfriend smile of course....ass/boob massages once a week!! hahaha


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