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well it finally caught up with me...

so all semester so far, i've been blowing off studying...taking it easy...and getting some badass grades on tests. well, that just changed...i totally bombed this test i just got out of...there goes my chance for a decent grade in that class...


study people...i know i'm gonna have to start

God what I would give to be a full-time student again... working sucks. Haha. Sorry to hear that Jason... sell me your vinyls and study harder.

studying is for people who dont pay attention in class. if you pay attention then you will know everything that will appear on a test, thus rendering studying useless.

hum, i haven't been studying much too, but with coming tests i'm seeing my time getting short!

I almost never studied in high school...

it caught up with me in college pretty quick, that was another ballgame

what'd you get ? lower than a C- ?

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Originally posted by Nou Even though I hate too, I have to agree with him here. If you pay attention in class, no need to study. I have never once studied for a test nor taken notes and I almost every time have gotten above 90%. Now homework, or doing things that arnt tests... well I dont know... haha... thats diffrent.

why do you hate to agree with me? Am I that bad of a person?

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Originally posted by DiMethGuy studying is for people who dont pay attention in class. if you pay attention then you will know everything that will appear on a test, thus rendering studying useless.

how can you possibly make a generalization like this? that is totally NOT the case in every class... some classe have just too much material to learn in just the time alloted for classes, thus making "studying" necessary for many.

maybe in your 8th grade algebra, class, but not the case in many universities or post-graduate professional courses...

-keith

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Originally posted by keithos27 how can you possibly make a generalization like this? that is totally NOT the case in every class... some classe have just too much material to learn in just the time alloted for classes, thus making "studying" necessary for many. maybe in your 8th grade algebra, class, but not the case in many universities or post-graduate professional courses... -keith

you're right maybe I was giving people too much credit here. But having a bachelor's and master's degrees from private universities I can attest to my experience and the experience of fellow students. Those who paid more attention in class had to study less, if it all. Those who daydreamed and doodled during class were the ones pounding the midnight oil studying for exams, whereas those of us who paid studious attention, were off in slumber.

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Originally posted by DiMethGuy studying is for people who dont pay attention in class. if you pay attention then you will know everything that will appear on a test, thus rendering studying useless.

you have a point about paying attention in class, but that's a little far fetched....you still need to study to reinforce all the info the night before the test...you just don't have to spend as much time as someone who hasn't been to class at all, and you know what to study. maybe in high school it's like that, but it's a bit different in college!

*edit* nevermind..didn't read the above posts.

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Originally posted by DiMethGuy studying is for people who dont pay attention in class. if you pay attention then you will know everything that will appear on a test, thus rendering studying useless.

haha suuuuuuure...ever taken calculus classes before or physics or chem...the list goes on..this formula works with classes like philosophy,psycology but not with stuff that needs memorizing or practicing..

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Originally posted by DiMethGuy studying is for people who dont pay attention in class. if you pay attention then you will know everything that will appear on a test, thus rendering studying useless.

For most classes, this will be the case. Of course, your learning curve also comes into play here. Some people will need to spend time outside of class to reach the same level of understanding even if they paid just as much or more attention during class.

However, there are also classes where the professor moves at a mental pace and expects you to be reading the book IN ADDITION to what's covered in class....so not all the material on the test is covered in class.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic haha suuuuuuure...ever taken calculus classes before or physics or chem...the list goes on..this formula works with classes like philosophy,psycology but not with stuff that needs memorizing or practicing..

Actually I find that in math or logic-based classes like Calc or Physics or whatnot I don't have to study as long as I memorize the essentials like the formulas, as I can usually figure out the rest on the spot, i.e. how they tie in to each other, things like that. Classes like psychology will typically ask things that DO require straight memorization, as they oftentimes refer back to previous studies in a certain area of that field.


So anyways back on topic...I had a test today too. Not sure if I bombed it or not. I finished a good 45 mins early, and when I went up to turn it in, the professor was still working on his (working out the answer key). So I figure this can mean one of two things: my professor started much later than I did, explaning why I finished before him, or I missed an entire page or section, also explaining why I finished before him.

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Originally posted by Tranc3 Actually I find that in math or logic-based classes like Calc or Physics or whatnot I don't have to study as long as I memorize the essentials like the formulas, as I can usually figure out the rest on the spot, i.e. how they tie in to each other, things like that. Classes like psychology will typically ask things that DO require straight memorization, as they oftentimes refer back to previous studies in a certain area of that field.

This also has to do with your area of expertise, so to speak. Some people are better at math-based courses than others, some people are better at abstract courses than others, some people are better at memorization-based courses than others, etc... Study time is really relative to the person and the class, not just the class.

Got tests coming up in 3 weeks time. I should be studying... This is my freshman year in college ( well the dutch equillavant to college at least ). And i breezed thru highschool without paying much attention to the lessons or to homework... College is quite the different story

Ahh well, ill just see how the first tests will be

Re: well it finally caught up with me...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller so all semester so far, i've been blowing off studying...taking it easy...and getting some badass grades on tests. well, that just changed...i totally bombed this test i just got out of...there goes my chance for a decent grade in that class... study people...i know i'm gonna have to start

All hope ain't lost, just retake the class again. Course you have to pay for it again, but WTF, all that counts is a degree. Most employers could give a rat's ass what your GPA was.


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Originally posted by Tranc3 Actually I find that in math or logic-based classes like Calc or Physics or whatnot I don't have to study as long as I memorize the essentials like the formulas, as I can usually figure out the rest on the spot.

i hate you.

when I took my placement test for community college, I scored so low in the math part that I needed to take a refresher course before they let me do college level algebra! I felt like such a moron. But I felt a little better when they told me I scored extremely high on the English comp part, so I was eligible for honors classes. So at least I�m not a moron all around

i think i'd be much better at money and business type math. it's all those formulas and equations that really stoop me. i just DON'T get it...it's bad. whoever i pick as a tutor this year better have some patience! i kept putting off that refresher course, but i need to get it over with so i can get my math courses over with....i'm not looking forward to it at all

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Originally posted by Slylee i hate you. when I took my placement test for community college, I scored so low in the math part that I needed to take a refresher course before they let me do college level algebra! I felt like such a moron. But I felt a little better when they told me I scored extremely high on the English comp part, so I was eligible for honors classes. So at least I�m not a moron all around i think i'd be much better at money and business type math. it's all those formulas and equations that really stoop me. i just DON'T get it...it's bad. whoever i pick as a tutor this year better have some patience! i kept putting off that refresher course, but i need to get it over with so i can get my math courses over with....i'm not looking forward to it at all

Yeah the difference between your scores on your Math test and your English test just shows you're better at English than you are at math, which is what I was saying above. I don't think you should necessarily feel bad, because whatever you may think you lack in Math, you make up for in English.

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Originally posted by Slylee i hate you. when I took my placement test for community college, I scored so low in the math part that I needed to take a refresher course before they let me do college level algebra! I felt like such a moron. But I felt a little better when they told me I scored extremely high on the English comp part, so I was eligible for honors classes. So at least I�m not a moron all around

well, that is exactly what im doing. Placed low on math, high in english (as always). I'm still in fucking fundamental math.

You're not a moron. Our minds are just so advanced, the simplicity of math just doesnt register. We don't take anything for face value. We automatically assume there is some advanced complex hidden algorithm behind each equation, and this natural thinking distorts the simple logic necessary to get a solution.

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Originally posted by DiMethGuy studying is for people who dont pay attention in class. if you pay attention then you will know everything that will appear on a test, thus rendering studying useless.

Though true to some extent, many times your homework, or readings will be on tests, hence you do need to study, as opposed to just pay attention in class. I forget what the rule of thumb the administrators were spouting was, but it was something like 1 hour of class comes to 3 hours of reading at home, so a 2 hour lecture should be 6 hours of studying at home? I don't know many people that actually do that, but you do have to study some. Of course it varies with the class, your major, the college, etc.

I agree with DImethguy. I never studied for a single test in all of High School and I scored less than a C on probably less than 2% of all of them. I didn't study for a reputedly tough test giving chemistry teacher's (I think people called him tough because all he basically did was lecture for most of the class, give occasional in class assignments and homework. Luckily for me all I had to do was listen and do a few of the in class stuff and it all stuck.) final for the year and I recieved the second highest score in the class over a girl who was constantly taking notes on the teacher's lectures, probably stayed up the night before studying, and brought the entire optional two pages of notes which I was too lazy to write or bring...I knew I wouldn't need them anyway. Material encompassing topics from the very beginning of the school year. 'course I almost failed the class because I never did the homework. Idiot ass school.

English was always my favorite and best class. I liked to read so I had excellent reading comprehension and good reading speed. Grammar comes easier when you read a lot. Looking back I don't really know how accurate the scale of the test was but I was scoring with a reading comprehension level of 12th grade plus in 6th grade.

Now that you all know that i'm smarter than you, please feel free to lather praise wherever you see fit. I deserve it.

Seriously though I guess i'm just a fast learner like those crazy-smart Velociraptors from Jurrassic Park who figured out how to open doors and do complex trigonometry and algebraic algorithms. <---anyone know where I got that from?

Please do not fail to mention that you attended a public highschool, under the united states education system requirements, before mentioning good grades, and lack of need to study.

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Originally posted by SportTrance Please do not fail to mention that you attended a public highschool, under the united states education system requirements, before mentioning good grades, and lack of need to study.

not all public schools are cakewalks and not all private schools are rigorous; with a few exceptions, school is what you make of it.

i'm not a big reader...in fact i only read on a need to basis. it has to really be interesting to keep my attention. but i think that is just from some left over ADD i still struggle with as an adult... my attention span can be shorter than a fly's if i'm not interested in what's being said to me, or what i'm reading. lol i just deal with it though, i'm not a fan of all the pills to help for it. besides, i'm pretty sure in another year or so, i will have completely grown out of it, i already see a huge difference between now and how i was 5 years ago.

i'm the type of person who works great under pressure, with lots of different problems being thrown at me at the same time. i'm very creative and i also have excellent verbal and written skills. i just suck in math and science, although i find it interesting. they go hand in hand though. whenever i was in English throughout middle and high school, everything always just clicked in my head. i never understood how people confuse "their" with "there"...in fact, it annoys me when people confuse it..it's not that hard people. when i was little, i was extremely smart and verbal. my mom said i used to talk so much when i was only 2 and i'd use such big words for that age and in the right context too...and people would look at me like holy shit, how old is she? so i've always been that way.

and that's an interesting point sportrance...i guess we're just too cool and smart for everyone no but seriously, that makes a lot of sense. i definitely always think there's more to it than what it really is. i have a hard time taking things at face value myself...especially in those subjects. i feel like there's way more to it, but it's all so simple probably.

I didn't even go to class most of the time and I still didn't study much. I did study for a few courses when I didn't attend class at all or reviewed notes and such before an exam, but never more than a half hour or an hour. I sometimes had to study in Accounting, but that's cause I fell asleep everytime I tried to attend.

I agree with Tranc to some extent on the math orientated studies. I always enjoyed math and the sciences that related to math, because you can derive answers as long as you know the important equations. It's all number crunching.

...wow. The academic and developmental aspects of my life seem to be almost exactly parallel to yours, Slylee. It's odd to find so many similarities

I took took the FCLEPT (I think that's it) just a few short months ago and scored almost 100% on everything BUT the algebra section (I was 1 stinkin point below college algebra cut-off!) They wanted me to take a refresher course, but my pride could never allow that. So I'll take it again before next semester to get into College Algebra... not like I want to.

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