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MK5 or TTX1

I just sold my cdjs and i have a ttx1 already. Now i am going to buy another turntable and i am debating on which tt to get.

Technics 1210 Mk5- trusted name, proven quality, industry standard, lasts long, maintains value, looks good.

TTX1- higher torque, more features(digital display, key lock, 50% =/-), completes the set so i have 2 of the same turntables.

Im not sure what to get. I like them both, but one thing is that if technics are the standard, then there is no pitch display so it will be much harder to beatmatch. And im not sure but the ttx1s go up by.1% on the display but im not sure if its more accurate but the display only shows .1% where the mk5s are techincally infinately accurate.

Well it's always nice to have a matching pair of decks, isn't it?

The pitch display on the TTX-1 only shows the pitch at .1 accuracy but that's only the display, they are more accurate than that.

To solve the problem of not using the displays, cover them up with paper so you don't get used to them. Thats how I practice with my TTX-1's at least, never tried em with using the displays. If I were you I'd want to complete the pair because thats more fun and you won't need to worry about adjusting how to deal with the differences etc after every mix. Although, if I was starting over again, I'd probably get the MK5's since I know they'd last forever.

definitely the TTX1, even though techs rock, it sucks having mismatched dex..

then again, i'd also buy a MK5G after, triple deck madness!

i am so wanting that setup if i get a ttx ill be one step closer i think im gonna go with the ttx considering its higher torque, analogue pitch control, 50% pitch range, key lock and sick look. I just dont know about the future like if it will last a long time like the techs and maintain its value.

the ttx1 r the decks that i want eventually the only thing that the 1210 has over them is the proven reliability but thats not numarks fault i think the ttx1 is a better deck

if you already have one you might aswell get the other one.. the ttx1 isnt a bad turntable either.

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Originally posted by anth_on_e i am so wanting that setup if i get a ttx ill be one step closer i think im gonna go with the ttx considering its higher torque, analogue pitch control, 50% pitch range, key lock and sick look. I just dont know about the future like if it will last a long time like the techs and maintain its value.

yea that does look like a sweet setup love the blue lights. the only bad thing about numark is that the turntables look so plastic. technics look solid.

Re: MK5 or TTX1

Match your decks, get the ttx.

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Originally posted by anth_on_e then there is no pitch display so it will be much harder to beatmatch.

Why is it so essential to know what pitch you are at?
Not having a display will not make beatmatching harder, you need to be able to do it without a display, its much more fun anyway doing it yourself rather than matching two numbers up!

I recently covered up my beatcounters - makes it easier I have found cos the beatcounters just aren't precise enough if you need them in an emergency - and they are a distraction in normal cases.

Personally, I would sell that TTX, and buy 2 Tech MK5's...end of debate.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Personally, I would sell that TTX, and buy 2 Tech MK5's...end of debate.

I was wondering why it took so long for the assholes to come in

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Match your decks, get the ttx. Why is it so essential to know what pitch you are at? Not having a display will not make beatmatching harder, you need to be able to do it without a display, its much more fun anyway doing it yourself rather than matching two numbers up! I recently covered up my beatcounters - makes it easier I have found cos the beatcounters just aren't precise enough if you need them in an emergency - and they are a distraction in normal cases.

i dont use the bpm counter, i use the pitch display ie .5% its just easier to know how exact you are where as on the mk5 u are just guessing what pitch change u made. im used to the display since my cdjs had them, but i never use the bpm counter since they arent very accurate anyway.

i wish there was a display of pitch on every TT..it makes pitch bending a lot more easier as you know exactly where to set it back

first off, no it doesn't, because while the pitch display might be digital, the actual pitch is analog, so while it may say +2.1 before you bend, and the same after, that doesn't neccesarily mean it's in the same place.

second, a better way to do it is to just put your finger nail right where the pitch was. then move the pitch, and move it back to where it was.

same technique works on the faders and crossfaders really well too.

i got a tt500 and i don't like the tonearm. i think it's aluminum but dang it feels like flimsy plastic. other then that i don't see a problem with it except that i had to buy a phono amp to use it on my line channel.

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Originally posted by Briden first off, no it doesn't, because while the pitch display might be digital, the actual pitch is analog, so while it may say +2.1 before you bend, and the same after, that doesn't neccesarily mean it's in the same place. second, a better way to do it is to just put your finger nail right where the pitch was. then move the pitch, and move it back to where it was. same technique works on the faders and crossfaders really well too.

Yep, if you'll notice, you can move the pitch slider a small amount and not change the display reading. Yes, it helps to get it back in the neighborhood, but chances are it won't be spot on.

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Originally posted by MERLIN other then that i don't see a problem with it except that i had to buy a phono amp to use it on my line channel.

All turntables give out a weak signal and need to be amped up...thats what mixers are for?

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Originally posted by anth_on_e i am so wanting that setup if i get a ttx ill be one step closer i think im gonna go with the ttx considering its higher torque, analogue pitch control, 50% pitch range, key lock and sick look. I just dont know about the future like if it will last a long time like the techs and maintain its value.

lol my decks!
i will take a new pic tomorrow prob. as i have made some changes

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Originally posted by Toufas lol my decks! i will take a new pic tomorrow prob. as i have made some changes

I thought they were yours. What's funny is that I watched MTV's "Pimp My Ride" and they put your exact set-up in the back of some guys car.

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Originally posted by Toufas lol my decks! i will take a new pic tomorrow prob. as i have made some changes

how are you liking that setup? it looks like im gonna go for the second ttx and have a matching pair and i want ur mixer but i dont feel like spending 1000 bucks CDN on it so i guess my pmc 05 pro II will have to do for now. How are you liking the mixer? any complaints?

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Originally posted by visje i wish there was a display of pitch on every TT..it makes pitch bending a lot more easier as you know exactly where to set it back

If you had to pitch bend then why would you want to put it back in the same spot?

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Originally posted by Zild If you had to pitch bend then why would you want to put it back in the same spot?

Agreed, if you have to pitch bend you are not in the right place to start with.

Personally I don't even like the Numarks and I think the functions on them are purely gimicky as they don't actually work 100%. If the display doesn't actually show truly what pitch is then there it's not really any more use than the numbers on the technics.

You have more than enough torque on a 1200, don't really see the point of having more. Maybe other DJs feel they need it? That's their choice.

The fact that they keep the key while you make adjustments... that technology does not really work either. Can do funny things to beats etc. And you don't need it. Choose your tunes well and get good at making corrections and you wont hear them anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking anyone who likes this deck or wants to use it. But in my own personal experience it just does not live up to the performance that you can expect from any of the Technics 1200s.

I have always felt that whenever I see a Numark setup the first thing that pops into my head is 'bedroom DJ'. Perhaps it's just a stigma that I have but it's always there.

I never really encounter them in the clubs I work in but I have used them in private functions and illeagal parties.

Numark's marketing strategy is clearly aimed at the bedroom DJs as so many of their tools are geared towards trying to make you sound like the guys who can really spin. They also offer you a lot more features than perhaps a Technics deck (which may be a good thing) but the more you cram onto a deck, if you are going to stay within the price range you have to cut corners somewhere (Not saying that the Techs aren't overpriced). They may well stand the test of time, and it would definately be a good thing if Techs had some serious competition as they seem a bit arrogant lately, blatantly obvious in the new Technics CDJ (pile of horse shit) too pricey and just does not compete with the Pioneer. I just don't think that the Numark is the deck that will do it.

The Mk5 is a waste of space in my opinion too, again not worth the money but then I love the old 1200s Mk II.

Just my opinion.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Agreed, if you have to pitch bend you are not in the right place to start with. Personally I don't even like the Numarks and I think the functions on them are purely gimicky as they don't actually work 100%. If the display doesn't actually show truly what pitch is then there it's not really any more use than the numbers on the technics. You have more than enough torque on a 1200, don't really see the point of having more. Maybe other DJs feel they need it? That's their choice. The fact that they keep the key while you make adjustments... that technology does not really work either. Can do funny things to beats etc. And you don't need it. Choose your tunes well and get good at making corrections and you wont hear them anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking anyone who likes this deck or wants to use it. But in my own personal experience it just does not live up to the performance that you can expect from any of the Technics 1200s. I have always felt that whenever I see a Numark setup the first thing that pops into my head is 'bedroom DJ'. Perhaps it's just a stigma that I have but it's always there. I never really encounter them in the clubs I work in but I have used them in private functions and illeagal parties. Numark's marketing strategy is clearly aimed at the bedroom DJs as so many of their tools are geared towards trying to make you sound like the guys who can really spin. They also offer you a lot more features than perhaps a Technics deck (which may be a good thing) but the more you cram onto a deck, if you are going to stay within the price range you have to cut corners somewhere (Not saying that the Techs aren't overpriced). They may well stand the test of time, and it would definately be a good thing if Techs had some serious competition as they seem a bit arrogant lately, blatantly obvious in the new Technics CDJ (pile of horse shit) too pricey and just does not compete with the Pioneer. I just don't think that the Numark is the deck that will do it. The Mk5 is a waste of space in my opinion too, again not worth the money but then I love the old 1200s Mk II. Just my opinion. Cheers Nem

thanx but didnt help me much... just left me more confused.



also to the people voting, look at my situation also, i alreaady have a ttx and would be mixing with 2 different turntables and have an unmatched set which is a factor.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Agreed, if you have to pitch bend you are not in the right place to start with. Personally I don't even like the Numarks and I think the functions on them are purely gimicky as they don't actually work 100%. If the display doesn't actually show truly what pitch is then there it's not really any more use than the numbers on the technics. You have more than enough torque on a 1200, don't really see the point of having more. Maybe other DJs feel they need it? That's their choice. The fact that they keep the key while you make adjustments... that technology does not really work either. Can do funny things to beats etc. And you don't need it. Choose your tunes well and get good at making corrections and you wont hear them anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking anyone who likes this deck or wants to use it. But in my own personal experience it just does not live up to the performance that you can expect from any of the Technics 1200s. I have always felt that whenever I see a Numark setup the first thing that pops into my head is 'bedroom DJ'. Perhaps it's just a stigma that I have but it's always there. I never really encounter them in the clubs I work in but I have used them in private functions and illeagal parties. Numark's marketing strategy is clearly aimed at the bedroom DJs as so many of their tools are geared towards trying to make you sound like the guys who can really spin. They also offer you a lot more features than perhaps a Technics deck (which may be a good thing) but the more you cram onto a deck, if you are going to stay within the price range you have to cut corners somewhere (Not saying that the Techs aren't overpriced). They may well stand the test of time, and it would definately be a good thing if Techs had some serious competition as they seem a bit arrogant lately, blatantly obvious in the new Technics CDJ (pile of horse shit) too pricey and just does not compete with the Pioneer. I just don't think that the Numark is the deck that will do it. The Mk5 is a waste of space in my opinion too, again not worth the money but then I love the old 1200s Mk II. Just my opinion. Cheers Nem

I don't know how that left you confused. Nem pointed out many great advantages of using just plain ol' Technics decks. Now days, more and more people are becoming anti-technics (which is fine for them), but it's that whole "go against the norm" attitude.

The TTX1 is a great deck I am sure, no personal experience with it. Do whatever you think will fit you best. Everyone comes on here asking everyone else's opinion, but that won't get you anywhere. We are all DJs (for the most part) and very opinionated at that. You're going to hear completely opposite testimonies 100% of the time when you ask a question like this..... See mixer thread or Vinyl vs. CD

it left me confused cuz after he shows his argument against the ttx, he says "The Mk5 is a waste of space in my opinion too, again not worth the money" so which would he get lol?

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