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how concerned are you about your ears?
I saw an interesting little documentary on discovery planet last night.. It was pretaining to clubs and specefically the damage that loud music does to ones ears.
It was cool becuase they sent in an acoustic engineer scientist into Lucid to gauge the DB levels and so on. His observations were:
In the DJ Booth (107 DB) - Conclusion, without proper ear protection you can do perm damage to your ears in less then 3 minutes.
at the Bar (87 DB) - after approx 30mins of continuous hearing at this DB perm damage will be caused
on the dance floor (102DB) - more then 5 mins at this DB range will cause damage.
Ofcourse this little experiment was not perfectly scientific, but its an interesting one nonetheless. I for one have gone home many times with ears ringing and now refuse to go clubbing anywhere without my pro ear plugs.
They even spoke to the Dj's and one of them wore custom-fitted earplugs becuase of his concern.
So how concerned are you guys? Thoughts from Dj's and clubbers alike
ive been in a dj booth probably the equivelent of 3 years and i can hear fine...
huh what??? huh????
no seriously though. Its important but i often wonder about these three minute claims and where they come from.
"pro ear plugs"? which ones?
after going to the guv for the first time in 2002, my hearing has never been the same.
i can actually hear a diff everytime i go. thast why i try and keep the partying to a min, i am very concrned.
i dont use earplugs, because you cant hear the highs, so whats the point of going?>
ive heard musician earplugs, which allow you to hear the highs, and still protect your hearing, are like $150+
but im seriously thinking of investing in a pair
I know a barback who used to work at the Guv who says he now has permanent hearing damage now.
Starting when I was 15, I used to attend punk/ hardcore concerts and always made sure I was as closest to the stage (& often, the speakers) as possible. I just never thought twice about the ringing in my ears for days after. I've been doing the dance club and rave thing since 1990. Only in Miami at my 1st WMC in 2001 did I have such severe pain after 36 hrs of constant exposure did I then swear to wear earplugs at all times afterwards (I've been 90% successful at keeping my word since then). If I want to hear the highs better, I put those foam earplugs in 'loosely', so that it just muffles out the painful stuff. I really should invest in a good pair tho, & hopefully they come with a carrying case on a keychain. I once got a promotional paid of foam earplugs in a keychain carrying case, and i ALWAYS wore them with that around. One day, it fell off, & that's when I started to slack off.
Why is it that i worked there for almost 5 years and i can hear just fine?
Viva is gonna have a lawsuit from me in a few years
^^^^^ why is it that ive worked there for 2 years and i can hear just fine?
LAwsuit? Why because they dragged you into that club kicking and screaming every single weekend?
LOL
The decibel level will definetly affect your hearing but another thing you must consider is the quality of the sound. If it's bad, lots of distortion and noise (sound waves interfering with each other) for instance, that does the most damage to your auditory senses.
Jayx1, perhaps why your hearing isn't as bad as you might think is because in the DJ booth, they have special monitors that have a very good S/R ratio (Signal to noise ratio). Hence, the quality is very good so minimal damage is done to your ears. However, as for the 10 ft. speakers and such, the sound may still be good but there will be a greater noise output if they are not configured properly.
However, good sound and a very high sound intensity (dB level) will affect your hearing, so please be wary.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Why is it that i worked there for almost 5 years and i can hear just fine? |
im old..ive been going to clubs for 12 years. I can hear just fine.
I agree that clubs with shitty systems are worse for your hearing but the steve dash phazon at guv and the system at viva are not distorted at all.
Go to some shitty gino club and you might feel a bit of pain but again i went to those when i was in high school and i can hear just fine.
The best sound ive ever heard to this day was at stereo in montreal. It was so loud yet you could have a conversation next to the speaker since the music and sound was so clear.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Why is it that i worked there for almost 5 years and i can hear just fine? |
tatgirl: absolutely. Im not going to say that sound cant affect a person's hearing and that some people arent more affected than others. CLearly they are. But, my issue here mainly is the guy who talked about a lawsuit. That smack of the same logic as suing mcdonalds because they made someone fat.
Another example: I also had a simple break in my arm from an airbag. It took 6 MONTHS to heal, what should've taken 8 weeks.
I also watched the same show, they did say you won't notice the damage until much later in life when the hair cells in the ear start to decrease in performance. The damage caused by the loud music will pretty much speed up and deepen the problem.
I have hereditary hearing loss in my family. On my mother's side everybody above 45 has hearing aids.
Got my hearing tested a year ago, my low frequency range is borderline needing hearing aids, my high frequency range is well above normal. Audiologist said the only way someone can have a curve like that is due to hereditary hearing loss - not exposure (exposure damages across all frequency ranges).
Got fitted for custom formed 20 db and 25 db earplugs. Wear them all the time. Cost $200, but my work insurance paid for it. They are well worth it.
Before I got my hearing tested I always wondered why I eq'd the highs down and the lows up, why children talking drive me crazy and why squeals make me irate. After the test it all makes sense.
Holy fuck Jayx1, you need to pull the "plug" outta your ass...
The lawsuit comment was obviously a sarcastic reference to the fact he's spent so much time @ Viva, he's going deaf.
Idiot.
u never know in todays world 
IMO clubs do have a responsibility to protect patron's hearing.
Clubs should offer free or at-cost hearing protection to every person who enters the door (employee or not).
A few clubs do that - and congratulations to them. Viva has always had them available (sometimes free, sometimes for $0.25 or something cheap like that).
Clubs don't even post warnings - which would leave them open to liability.
Toronto Department of Health should start some sort of "Safe Hearing" program where they require all loud sound locations (clubs, concerts, sporting arenas, etc) to post warnings about exposure damage and partner with some hearing protection manufacturers to provide at-cost hearing protection for patrons.
^^^^^ Agreed
employees could probably sue on the same ground that miners in asbestos mines could. Dangers are known, and adequate safety measures arent being taken to protect those employees.
Id say it would be a WCB claim, not a lawsuit.
yeah but dangers are known whereas asbestos wasnt known until years later.
If employees dont bother to take precaution its their own damned fault since they know that noise can cause problems. Its up to a club to provide noise protection but if an employee doesnt use it that thats the employee's problem.
Guv has ear plugs available but i never use them. If i go deaf its my own damned fault.
Not EVERYTHING is SOMEONE else's fault you know..... take some responsibilty for yourselves.
Luckily i haven't been out that much in the last 3 or 4 years. Plus when i go i try to stay away from the speakers, i dunno if that makes any difference.
However, i look at my dad who at 55 is having serious hearing problems from playing on stage, and i wonder if i should get earplugs.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 tatgirl: absolutely. Im not going to say that sound cant affect a person's hearing and that some people arent more affected than others. CLearly they are. But, my issue here mainly is the guy who talked about a lawsuit. That smack of the same logic as suing mcdonalds because they made someone fat. |
you should expect to hear music louder than anywhere else.
If you are sensitive ask for earplugs.
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