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Posted by twizta on Nov-02-2004 11:12:

opening for sasha : O!!!!

i just found out today that i will be opening for sasha although there will be at least 5 more other djs that will be aha..i am still pretty damm excited ; )

since this is the very first time i'll be opening for a BIG dj, what should i do? i think i have the midnight till one in the morning slot right before Sasha so should i play mostly prog trance/house? arg! actually i'll see how the other opener dj's do and i'll just make my set flow with the others.. i just hope the other dj;s dont spin straight up banging trance lol..: (


and oh yea..this will be Sasha's first time in china.

i'll put pictures of the venue soon..it will be at the shanghai science and technology museum : o!!

HERE IS A PICTURE.

lol the chivas's ad is bigger than sasha's face


Posted by Angelus on Nov-02-2004 11:53:

congrats on the gig!!!!

imo play breaky, get the crowd jumpin.. but dont anthem it up or anything good luck


Posted by svens_bath on Nov-02-2004 12:31:

be prepared to play longer than your alloted 1hour. sasha has a habit of coming on late and telling the warmup to play on.

if i were you i would just play what you play..thats what got you the gig, and if its not right then its the promoters fault.


Posted by Dj Dissent on Nov-02-2004 13:09:

quote:
Originally posted by svens_bath

congratualtions bro!
if i were you i would just play what you play..thats what got you the gig, and if its not right then its the promoters fault.


i'm gonna disagree with this. Ur booked just before a huge Dj, meaning that the promoter's expecting a warm-up set. Play for what ur booked as n get the crowed going n ready for the headliner. Nothing pissses me off more than a warm-up Dj playing banging anthem after anthem n by the time the headliner arrives the crowed is exhausted as hell. Rather than a really melodic, uplifting set, I'd play some darker, deeper tunes with little breakdowns n leave sasha to work from there. However, id say theres nothing wrong ending ur set with an awsome tune, leaving the crowd wanting more n ready for sasha.


peace, Dissent


Posted by asimoulis on Nov-02-2004 13:26:

00.00 - 13.00


you will be playing for 13 hours...
nice...


Posted by Tranc3 on Nov-02-2004 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by asimoulis
00.00 - 13.00


you will be playing for 13 hours...
nice...


Posted by twizta on Nov-02-2004 13:55:

my bad..lol


Posted by jdat on Nov-02-2004 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Dissent
Nothing pissses me off more than a warm-up Dj playing banging anthem after anthem n by the time the headliner arrives the crowed is exhausted as hell. Rather than a really melodic, uplifting set, I'd play some darker, deeper tunes with little breakdowns n leave sasha to work from there. However, id say theres nothing wrong ending ur set with an awsome tune, leaving the crowd wanting more n ready for sasha.


yeah as an opener he must keep it on the toned down side but he should throw in 2 or 3 major tunes at DIFFERENT times in his set


Play Guy Gerber - Stoppage time
If you don't have the vinyl go and buy the mp3 from bedrock.org.uk


Posted by mal1ce on Nov-02-2004 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Dissent
i'm gonna disagree with this. Ur booked just before a huge Dj, meaning that the promoter's expecting a warm-up set. Play for what ur booked as n get the crowed going n ready for the headliner. Nothing pissses me off more than a warm-up Dj playing banging anthem after anthem n by the time the headliner arrives the crowed is exhausted as hell. Rather than a really melodic, uplifting set, I'd play some darker, deeper tunes with little breakdowns n leave sasha to work from there. However, id say theres nothing wrong ending ur set with an awsome tune, leaving the crowd wanting more n ready for sasha.

peace, Dissent


Sorry, but I disagree 100%
I think the only thing that should be off limits to the warm up DJ is original or remixed material that was put out by the headliner. Other than that, have at it.
It pissed me off to hear people say that the warm up DJ should hold back so the headliner looks good or has an easy go of it. What kind of crap is that? If the "headliner", who is getting paid mad cash, cant surpass anything a local can throw down...well then, maybe he shouldn't be the headliner. So many of these "headliners" (and I'm not saying Sasha is one of them) are no talent ass clowns that are just riding on their names its not even funny...they need a wake up call.
So I'm gonna agree with svens_bath, twizta should be able to play exactly how he normally plays with no worries.


Posted by tribu on Nov-02-2004 14:35:

Congratulations on this spectacular oppurtunity!

Play whatever you feel is right for the mood of the place and the audience. Make sure to tell us all how it went.


Posted by jdat on Nov-02-2004 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by mal1ce
Sorry, but I disagree 100%
I think the only thing that should be off limits to the warm up DJ is original or remixed material that was put out by the headliner. Other than that, have at it.
It pissed me off to hear people say that the warm up DJ should hold back so the headliner looks good or has an easy go of it. What kind of crap is that? If the "headliner", who is getting paid mad cash, cant surpass anything a local can throw down...well then, maybe he shouldn't be the headliner. So many of these "headliners" (and I'm not saying Sasha is one of them) are no talent ass clowns that are just riding on their names its not even funny...they need a wake up call.
So I'm gonna agree with svens_bath, twizta should be able to play exactly how he normally plays with no worries.



Did it ever occur to you that a dj's title when they are playing before a headliner is :
opener
warm-up dj
etc


It's also about a nights progression. You want it to peak near the end not have some jackass with no sense of building up an evening who slams it right when the doors open

I hate it when there's a dj who's trying to slam it when he's at an opening slot.


Posted by Dj Dissent on Nov-02-2004 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by mal1ce

It pissed me off to hear people say that the warm up DJ should hold back so the headliner looks good or has an easy go of it. What kind of crap is that? If the "headliner", who is getting paid mad cash, cant surpass anything a local can throw down...well then, maybe he shouldn't be the headliner. So many of these "headliners" (and I'm not saying Sasha is one of them) are no talent ass clowns that are just riding on their names its not even funny...they need a wake up call.
So I'm gonna agree with svens_bath, twizta should be able to play exactly how he normally plays with no worries.


Its not a competition with the local dj vs. headliner. I'm not suggesting u play a crap set so the headliner looks good. Ofcourse not! There are amazing warm-up set out there (check out Jonathan lisles ones for bedrock). It all comes down to creating an unforgettable night for the clubbers ...and like u said, sasha's never been to china before so it'll be wild!


Posted by Trance O Matic on Nov-02-2004 15:06:

I think you have to be respectful of the fact that you are being hired to open for Sasha, so your first priority should be to do the best job possible as an opener. It's not about compromising your art, you don't have to trainwreck and play crap music to make Sasha look good. But as opener, your job is definitely not to peak the crowd out.

If you were being hired to headline at an event, then you could feel free to bang out anthem after anthem, if that's how you are so inclined.


Posted by mal1ce on Nov-02-2004 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Did it ever occur to you that a dj's title when they are playing before a headliner is :
opener
warm-up dj
etc


It's also about a nights progression. You want it to peak near the end not have some jackass with no sense of building up an evening who slams it right when the doors open

I hate it when there's a dj who's trying to slam it when he's at an opening slot.


bla bla bla....
Go back and re-read twizta's post, he's got the slot right before Sasha so he won't be "slamming it right when the doors open" now will he.
And I do agree with Dissent in the fact that it's not a competition, however, if the local guy (twizta in this case) is talented and knows how to work his home crowd, there's no reason for him to hold back IMO. For my money I'd rather see several of the Dj's throw down instead of everybody "playing it safe" and leading up to one headliner at the end of the night.
Seriously, have you ever been to Ultra or any of the Space nights at WMC? Those are full nights with nothing but "headliners"...you think Tiesto is gonna take it easy if PvD is playing after him or vice versa?


Posted by Trance O Matic on Nov-02-2004 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by mal1ce

For my money I'd rather see several of the Dj's throw down instead of everybody "playing it safe" and leading up to one headliner at the end of the night.
Seriously, have you ever been to Ultra or any of the Space nights at WMC? Those are full nights with nothing but "headliners"...you think Tiesto is gonna take it easy if PvD is playing after him or vice versa?


I agree. I love seeing a line up of top Djs playing back to back at a show like Ultra, it's a great way to compare styles, track selection etc. It's always a laugh to see someone like Oaky go in those situations, poor bastard really struggles and reaches into his box to pull out the most OBVIOUS tunes.

That being said, it's also fun to go see a single headliner and enjoy the anticipation while listening to the openers. One time I heard Sean Cusick open for Sasha and while he was playing laid back proggy, he blew me away.


Posted by jdat on Nov-02-2004 15:21:

quote:
Originally posted by mal1ce
Seriously, have you ever been to Ultra or any of the Space nights at WMC? Those are full nights with nothing but "headliners"...you think Tiesto is gonna take it easy if PvD is playing after him or vice versa?



Comparing ULTRA which has 100+ ( is that the figure? ) headliner djs with a club event with ONE headliner are two separate worlds.
I can't even believe you brought that in. That's not at all the same thing not even the same planet.
Such an ignorant statement.



The whole idea of anyone playing whatever they feel like playing no matter what their slot is truly comes from the whole rave scene; the idea of instant gratification which is more damaging then building.

If a dj is insensitive as to what other djs are doing he needs to be shot.

Twista has been placed right before the headliner which does give him the right to push it more then the ones prior to him but under no circumstances should he be banging it!


Posted by Trance O Matic on Nov-02-2004 15:23:

Raves and clubs are two different worlds.

Neither is "better".

Every person has their preference.


Posted by torontotrance on Nov-02-2004 15:25:

get sasha to play xpander to end his set \o/

p.s - don't play xpander!


Posted by jdat on Nov-02-2004 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance O Matic
Raves and clubs are two different worlds.

Neither is "better".

Every person has their preference.


old school raves had the idea of progression going on.

Now you have everyone who's a dj and everyone who wants the hot spot so much that they'll burn everyone else to get it.

It's true I can't make the statement that a progressing night is better then instant gratification but it does somehow make more sense; to me.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Nov-02-2004 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Dissent
Rather than a really melodic, uplifting set, I'd play some darker, deeper tunes with little breakdowns n leave sasha to work from there.


sasha's not gonna play melodic and uplifting.

if his gig in sydney two nights ago is any indicator, it's going to be a lot of house and breaks. limited prog, and almost zero uplifting/melodic trance.

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
get sasha to play xpander to end his set \o/


we were screaming for him to do that but no luck

good luck with the set dude!


Posted by Partyhardy! on Nov-02-2004 15:46:

Amazing twizta! I wish you good luck and a lot of fun!!!


Posted by jonze on Nov-02-2004 15:50:

good luck to you. that looks like a pretty cool venue to play at.


Posted by Mellow Yellow on Nov-02-2004 16:11:

Talking

nice one dude, wish I could be there


John


Posted by Dj Dissent on Nov-02-2004 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Comparing ULTRA which has 100+ ( is that the figure? ) headliner djs with a club event with ONE headliner are two separate worlds.
I can't even believe you brought that in. That's not at all the same thing not even the same planet.
Such an ignorant statement.


For sure. I find it very hard to compare a night at a club (even with an awsome Dj) to a Dance Event/Rave. For me club nigts are fun as hell, but raves (with music progression) are an out-of-body experience that fucks with ur emotions to the point that u wake up the next day thinking that u can never have fun again cos u just experienced the ultimate euphoria (maybe pills got something to do with it )...but thats just me


Posted by fitom tiel on Nov-02-2004 16:23:

congrats, dude


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