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Posted by Vaio_dude on Nov-02-2004 13:49:

Idea serious HIV questions!

hey guys, Well I have some serious questions about HIV as a friend of mine is going thru worries and stuff.

- He met up this girl from uzbekstan, she can barely speak english
- they started having sex with condom for about 4 times
- then she asked if not to use condom and that both of them are clean and there is no worries about anything
- then they started having sex with no condom, normal sex, not anal or any these sick stuff.
- he told me that the girl was clean and that she is a good woman, and he she has a baby back home who she supports .
- he later found out that this girl is a prostitute
- he started to get worried, and when he sat down with her, she told him that he does not need to worry and that she is clean, and when she does have sex with someone else she uses condom all the time.

- He left this girl, and after two months now he got tested and it was negative.

the doctor told him that now he is on the safe side and he should not get worried, after all it does not mean anyone who is a prostitute have HIV.

but still, he is worried and scared.

Any Advices on how to calm him down? or should he be worried still ?


Posted by tribu on Nov-02-2004 13:54:

This wont calm him down at all, but there is a six month window between the time youre infected and the time the markers for the virus can be identified.

This means that he should be tested six months after the last time they had sex. He should also get tested for much more than HIV if possible. Not trying to bring him dow, just thought he should know about the six month window.


Posted by Vaio_dude on Nov-02-2004 14:05:

well, he is going to be tested again in febraury...and the doctor said he should. the doctor also told him that even though he needs to get tested again after 6 months, most people who are negative after two months are not positive after 6 month, it is very rare. but just to make sure, after 6 months he should go get tested for HIV.

so, this calmed him a little bit, but still he gets scared that it could be positive after 6 months, even though he did not get any sympthoms that the HIV could produce after 3 weeks.

until then he is avoiding any kind of sexual relation ships with anyone. He is really worried that his future could be destroyed.


Posted by keithos27 on Nov-02-2004 14:11:

The #1 thing he should do is see a doctor... Talking with a doctor and empowering himself with knowledge is the only thing that will calm him down.

I'm not a doctor, but to my knowledge it sounds like he is taking the necessary precautions now. He should also be tested for things like Hepititus B & C, and other STDs... He may not have contracted HIV (hopefully!) but he may have caught something else. :-( Not to make your friend feel bad, but having sex is a very serious thing and both parties need to be responsible...they should both be tested for various STDs including HIV, Hep B & C, Chlamidia, Ghanaria, etc.

Just my two cents. Hope everything works out well. :-)

-Keith


Posted by Lira on Nov-02-2004 15:07:

Re: serious HIV questions!

I agree with Keithos, so I'll just focus something else:
quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
- then they started having sex with no condom, normal sex, not anal or any these sick stuff.

Why would anal be sick? Because that's the "pooper"? Well, the other side bleeds regularly, so it should be disgusting as well, shouldn't it? Because it's "dirty"? If her pipes are unloaded, it's not dirty, if you've seen porn once in your life you'd know it. Would oral sex be dirty as well?


Posted by placebo on Nov-02-2004 15:12:

Re: Re: serious HIV questions!

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I agree with Keithos, so I'll just focus something else:

Why would anal be sick? Because that's the "pooper"? Well, the other side bleeds regularly, so it should be disgusting as well, shouldn't it? Because it's "dirty"? If her pipes are unloaded, it's not dirty, if you've seen porn once in your life you'd know it. Would oral sex be dirty as well?



No. Pooper 4 Life.


Posted by tribu on Nov-02-2004 15:13:

what about titty sex? nostril sex? ear sex? And lets not forget the ever popular foot-job...


Posted by placebo on Nov-02-2004 15:13:

Re: serious HIV questions!

quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
hey guys, Well I have some serious questions about HIV as a friend of mine is going thru worries and stuff.

- He met up this girl from uzbekstan, she can barely speak english
- they started having sex with condom for about 4 times
- then she asked if not to use condom and that both of them are clean and there is no worries about anything
- then they started having sex with no condom, normal sex, not anal or any these sick stuff.
- he told me that the girl was clean and that she is a good woman, and he she has a baby back home who she supports .
- he later found out that this girl is a prostitute
- he started to get worried, and when he sat down with her, she told him that he does not need to worry and that she is clean, and when she does have sex with someone else she uses condom all the time.

- He left this girl, and after two months now he got tested and it was negative.

the doctor told him that now he is on the safe side and he should not get worried, after all it does not mean anyone who is a prostitute have HIV.

but still, he is worried and scared. When I was talking to him, I noticed water damage on my ceiling.

So, should I try and fix it myself, or call someone to do it for me?



That's how the story should have ended, imho.


Posted by Spike on Nov-02-2004 15:16:

i was with a girl/friend of mine and was all over me like she wanted to sleep with me...out of the blue she asked if i was a virgin? (i was like wtf and answered no) and earlier she had told me shes never had a bf b4 in her life) and im thinking hrmmmmm sounds kinda fishy.... what do u guys think this means. my guess is shes slept with alotta guys b4


Posted by placebo on Nov-02-2004 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Spike
i was with a girl/friend of mine and was all over me like she wanted to sleep with me...out of the blue she asked if i was a virgin? (i was like wtf and answered no) and earlier she had told me shes never had a bf b4 in her life) and im thinking hrmmmmm sounds kinda fishy.... what do u guys think this means. my guess is shes slept with alotta guys b4


Pressure washer.


Posted by Spike on Nov-02-2004 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
Pressure washer.


hun?


Posted by placebo on Nov-02-2004 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Spike
hun?


Just clean it out with a pressure washer.


Posted by Vaio_dude on Nov-02-2004 16:39:

guys, i did not mean to offend any one by saying anal sex is dirty. I apologize.

but you guys r changing the topic now...

- He just thinks all prostitute have AIDS

and because he can not forgive him self for what he has done, even though after two months he tested negative.

and he swears to me that the girl was very clean, which i know it does not really matter.

he keeps thinking about it and he is very scared. he knows he has done something very stupid, and he regrets it more than ever.

I try to tell him that not all prostitutes are HIV psitive, some of them really take care of them selfs, and they are always safe, which mean they are clean, some of them even married and they only do not use condoms with their husbands.

I tell him that after he tests his blood again on febraury and when it comes negative again he will be normal like before, and just be careful next time. maybe he got lucky this time....

what u think ?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-02-2004 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
what about titty sex? nostril sex? ear sex? And lets not forget the ever popular foot-job...



Werd. The last time a girl told me I could put it anywhere I stuck it in her ear! That'll learn her!


Vaio_dude, you friend is an idiot. In 6 months time he will know for sure, and there's not really anything else that can be done; apart from to reflect on the mistake of sleeping with someone he didn't properly in the first place without protection. What else do you want to hear?


Posted by Massive84 on Nov-02-2004 17:13:

Re: serious HIV questions!

quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
- He left this girl, and after two months now he got tested and it was negative.



If he don't trust this result, he can do another test, but usually tests like these are done really carefully and are 99% correct i believe.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-02-2004 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
what about titty sex? nostril sex? ear sex? And lets not forget the ever popular foot-job...


...or seat sex (fucking the girl in the space between the pooper and the vagina).

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Werd. The last time a girl told me I could put it anywhere I stuck it in her ear! That'll learn her!



Posted by Lira on Nov-02-2004 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
guys, i did not mean to offend any one by saying anal sex is dirty. I apologize.

I wasn't offended, I just meant to say there's nothing wrong (or dirty) about it
quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
- He just thinks all prostitute have AIDS

and because he can not forgive him self for what he has done, even though after two months he tested negative.

and he swears to me that the girl was very clean, which i know it does not really matter.

he keeps thinking about it and he is very scared. he knows he has done something very stupid, and he regrets it more than ever.

I try to tell him that not all prostitutes are HIV psitive, some of them really take care of them selfs, and they are always safe, which mean they are clean, some of them even married and they only do not use condoms with their husbands.

I tell him that after he tests his blood again on febraury and when it comes negative again he will be normal like before, and just be careful next time. maybe he got lucky this time....

what u think ?

It's obvious your friend is scared, which is quite natural after you have unprotected sex with a prostitute. If he was lucky enough not to be infected by any DST, no need to fear. He'll probably be cautious next time, which is somehow a good thing. "What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-02-2004 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
guys, i did not mean to offend any one by saying anal sex is dirty. I apologize.

but you guys r changing the topic now...

- He just thinks all prostitute have AIDS

and because he can not forgive him self for what he has done, even though after two months he tested negative.

and he swears to me that the girl was very clean, which i know it does not really matter.

he keeps thinking about it and he is very scared. he knows he has done something very stupid, and he regrets it more than ever.

I try to tell him that not all prostitutes are HIV psitive, some of them really take care of them selfs, and they are always safe, which mean they are clean, some of them even married and they only do not use condoms with their husbands.

I tell him that after he tests his blood again on febraury and when it comes negative again he will be normal like before, and just be careful next time. maybe he got lucky this time....

what u think ?


It sounds like your friend had a brush with death and didn't like what he saw. Who does? We'll all go through portions in our lives where we truly realize what it means to be in danger of dying - I was lucky to get that out of the way when I was 16, and I think most people are very similar in their teen years. Your friend did something that was dangerous... but what isn't anymore? He is finally coming to realize what it is to live in fear of death, and the only way you will be able to snap him out of it is to just let him come to it on his own terms. I know it's hard to bear watching a friend is such distress, but all you can do is be there for him with advice of your own - the rest is stuff he has to come to on his own terms about. Eventually (hopefully), he will finally accept life for what it is and no longer live to die.

Nobody can be told what their purpose is on this Earth - leave him to his own destiny, and he will be made better for this experience. I'm not advising you to abandon your friend in a time of need, but this is an important step for most people in their maturation as individuals.


Posted by Vaio_dude on Nov-02-2004 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
It sounds like your friend had a brush with death and didn't like what he saw. Who does? We'll all go through portions in our lives where we truly realize what it means to be in danger of dying - I was lucky to get that out of the way when I was 16, and I think most people are very similar in their teen years. Your friend did something that was dangerous... but what isn't anymore? He is finally coming to realize what it is to live in fear of death, and the only way you will be able to snap him out of it is to just let him come to it on his own terms. I know it's hard to bear watching a friend is such distress, but all you can do is be there for him with advice of your own - the rest is stuff he has to come to on his own terms about. Eventually (hopefully), he will finally accept life for what it is and no longer live to die.

Nobody can be told what their purpose is on this Earth - leave him to his own destiny, and he will be made better for this experience. I'm not advising you to abandon your friend in a time of need, but this is an important step for most people in their maturation as individuals.


You are right man, because ever since he realized maybe he got lucky and he got thru this fine, he has changed a lot, he has been getting closer to god and stoped doing some things he thought it was stupid, and he actually started to focus on life, and be nice to people. Basically I can see he regrets what he has done, and he believes that god gave him another chance. As long as other disease, he is feeling better than ever, no illness what so ever.

he is only worried about the next time he takes the test even though most people told him that two month is a good time to knowif u have HIV.


Posted by t�bias on Nov-02-2004 23:41:

I think that your friend had a lucky escape.

Sleeping with prostitutes at all is a little unclean for my liking, I have never done it, and to do so without protection is just plain risky.

But we often get chances in life, and it seems like your friend got one.

HIV is much more common the gay community and unless you go to Africa you are much more likely to be catching a whole range of other sexual diseases by having unsafe sex.

The key is to learn from your mistakes and a check up every 3 to 6 months for anybody that has sex at all is a smart idea for peace of mind for you and your partners.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Nov-02-2004 23:46:

let this be a lesson to you guys, if a prostitue offers it for free and u dont have a coupon, wear a condom


Posted by Vaio_dude on Nov-03-2004 00:18:

yeah, he has been reading a lot about the disease and the people who get sympthoms and stuff, and so far because he did not get any he actually feels better, and now that i making him read these threads, he is starting to believe that his whole life has changed, even though he is going to go get tested again after 2 more months


Posted by t�bias on Nov-03-2004 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
yeah, he has been reading a lot about the disease and the people who get sympthoms and stuff, and so far because he did not get any he actually feels better, and now that i making him read these threads, he is starting to believe that his whole life has changed, even though he is going to go get tested again after 2 more months


Yes I don't think he has Aids, but he is definitely paranoid.


Posted by Lira on Nov-03-2004 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias
Yes I don't think he has Aids, but he is definitely paranoid.

"Just because he's paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after him"

I believe it's quite natural to be paranoid for a while after what happened


Posted by smokeape on Nov-03-2004 00:46:

Re: serious HIV questions!

quote:
Originally posted by Vaio_dude
hey guys, Well I have some serious questions about HIV as a friend of mine is going thru worries and stuff.

- He met up this girl from uzbekstan, she can barely speak english
- they started having sex with condom for about 4 times
- then she asked if not to use condom and that both of them are clean and there is no worries about anything
- then they started having sex with no condom, normal sex, not anal or any these sick stuff.
- he told me that the girl was clean and that she is a good woman, and he she has a baby back home who she supports .
- he later found out that this girl is a prostitute
- he started to get worried, and when he sat down with her, she told him that he does not need to worry and that she is clean, and when she does have sex with someone else she uses condom all the time.

- He left this girl, and after two months now he got tested and it was negative.

the doctor told him that now he is on the safe side and he should not get worried, after all it does not mean anyone who is a prostitute have HIV.

but still, he is worried and scared.

Any Advices on how to calm him down? or should he be worried still ?


Either he's got it or not, facts of life. If he doesn't, then he can file it in the lessons learned category, the dumbass. Oh yeah, I'm not a prostitute, but you need to use the thumb of a catcher's mitt to hit the sides as well, you know... If you feel nothing but air, pull out, head for the hills, and grab some degreaser real quick.


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