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and this is just an example.
I mean, how can a lawyer cost so much money? if a lawyer would ask me that money i would give him the finger and find somebody else

at the end of the day, lawyers drill companies for cash because they know it will be only a small percentage of what they will make/save the company in various compensation claims etc.

its mainly down to the fact that you can sue anyone, for anything in america. its a shit-arse culture if you ask me.

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Originally posted by tu_face ..its mainly down to the fact that you can sue anyone, for anything in america. its a shit-arse culture if you ask me.

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Originally posted by tu_face at the end of the day, lawyers drill companies for cash because they know it will be only a small percentage of what they will make/save the company in various compensation claims etc.

+1

Here is an example of what lawyers do.


They go to say a condo development. And they go door to door and ask the residents if there is anything wrong, no matter how minor. And they will say...oh well...I have a slight dimple in my wall. or my cabinet is crooked.

They then say well, im filing a class action lawsuit against the owner of this place. If you want that fixed and to get about 20,000 dollars sign your name. XXX already signed and this is your only chance to get on the list. You wont get any money if you dont.

So they sign.

Then they go to the group that runs the place. They say they are filing a class action law suit. Then the local residents who run the place de facto say hell no, the developer is a friend of ours.

So the lawyer says, well, then I will file a lawsuit against you personally for obstructing justice and then Ill go ahead and do the class action lawsuit anyway.

so finally they capitulate.

Then he goes to the developer and says Ill file this and ill file motion after motion after motion and youll end up paying 30 million dollars.

or you can just write me a check for 15 million and well call it over.

bing.


You pay lawyers becuase if you dont theyll turn around and sue the shit out of you. The way our legal system works is that you dont have to have a case. After enough 10,000 dollar motions and 15,000 dollar depositions, you go bankrupt.

So you hire these people on for half that and they block the other lawyers.

companies spend a lot more money on worse things than lawyers.


oh yea, and let me just correct you orbax, since i work for 2 lawyers.


here's an example of what lawyers do.


come in to work, dictate for 10 minutes. sit on the phone for 20 minutes talking about football tickets or hockey tickets. go have some lunch. play golf. maybe go to a mediation or a deposition here and there, for which WE (the secretaries) have to brief them on before they go into it, because they don't even know who the f*** our own client is cuz they could care less about the case... yea you get the point

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Originally posted by Slylee companies spend a lot more money on worse things than lawyers. oh yea, and let me just correct you orbax, since i work for 2 lawyers. here's an example of what lawyers do. come in to work, dictate for 10 minutes. sit on the phone for 20 minutes talking about football tickets or hockey tickets. go have some lunch. play golf. maybe go to a mediation or a deposition here and there, for which WE (the secretaries) have to brief them on before they go into it, because they don't even know who the f*** our own client is cuz they could care less about the case... yea you get the point

i wish i didnt swear so much. cause id be a kick ass lawyer.

of course it depends on what kind of law you do, but litigation is where the money is, and it has got to be the most BORING line of work...at least to me. reading a bunch of bullshit testimonies and going over insurance policies and just READING READING READING...it's like you never get out of law school...which is pretty much READING. lol at least if it was good material, it'd be worth it. but it's just medical reports and people's depositions and their side of the story.

"I was at a 4 way stop when all of a sudden my coffee spilled, and i was hit from behind...my back hurts now and i missed work so much that BLA BLA BLA BLA"


if you're gonna be an attorney do something good, like criminal defense or work for some big firm that represents huge companies like the NFL...

no matter how much money they make and how many fancy cars (there are 3 lawyers that live in my neighborhood, and they each drive a bmw, mercedes, and lexus.. all black ... all sports cars), they are still have the tightest wallets in the world.. you would need hundreds of dynamite to open it just a crack..

here's my experience with lawyers.. parents own a convenient store.. i work with them now and then.. many lawyers work around the store, so they stop by and buy some snacks .. they don't want to buy potato chips at face value, and think 20 ounce soft drinks are too expensive ($1.15) .. may be expensive to others .. i dont know how much it is in other states, but that's how much it is regular in our market region.

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Originally posted by Slylee of course it depends on what kind of law you do, but litigation is where the money is, and it has got to be the most BORING line of work...at least to me. reading a bunch of bullshit testimonies and going over insurance policies and just READING READING READING...it's like you never get out of law school...which is pretty much READING. lol at least if it was good material, it'd be worth it. but it's just medical reports and people's depositions and their side of the story. "I was at a 4 way stop when all of a sudden my coffee spilled, and i was hit from behind...my back hurts now and i missed work so much that BLA BLA BLA BLA" if you're gonna be an attorney do something good, like criminal defense or work for some big firm that represents huge companies like the NFL...

that is true.. but i heard law is like a win lose situation .. i heard from one lawyer that he lost a case for his client, then the client sues the lawyer back for malpractice and unable to perform the appropriate duties the client wanted him to do. he was suing for the total lawyer fees times 10 percent for psychological purposes for losing the trial ..

that sucks.

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Originally posted by tu_face at the end of the day, lawyers drill companies for cash because they know it will be only a small percentage of what they will make/save the company in various compensation claims etc. its mainly down to the fact that you can sue anyone, for anything in america. its a shit-arse culture if you ask me.

although i think your feelings are common, it totally disagree with you. i won't take the time point out your flaws b/c, i have more important things to do.

i find it funny that you ridule the american legal system, which derives itself from your legal system.

yea people sue way too much. i'll be honest, i slipped and fell really hard last year when i was working at a restaurant. it was bad, i mean glasses flew in the air (i was carrying dishes) and then landed on my head and broke...i had glass in my hair and everything. i wiped out...like my feet came right out from under me and i landed right on my ass/tailbone, i'm surprised i didn't break it. anyway, ever since that general time frame of the fall, i have the worse fucking pain in my low back and it shoots down into my legs and they go numb. when i'm driving, i have to put the car in park sometimes at a red light so i can stretch out my leg because it hurts so bad. i had an MRI done and it turns out i have 2 bulging discs...they aren't even fully herniated, and i'm in this much pain. it really sucks, but i honestly couldn't be bothered with suing the restaurant. it's so time consuming and for what, a few thousand dollars? i'll still be in pain all the time.

*edit* oh yea i forgot, the reason i fell was because the floors in the back were always wet w/ water and food and crap and they didn't have any slip resistant mats...

If you have health insurance they should cover it. The restaurant should be nice enough to do some workers comp. But in the end, you slipped and hurt yourself. Too many people blame "The Place Of Work" like its a fucking entity. You arent suing A Company youre suing a person.

When my family was running our consulting firm we had an office down in Texas (us living in Seattle and running the offices there). A woman who was hired on as a salesperson worked there for a year. She didnt sell ANYTHING. No new accounts, no upping existing accounts, NOTHING. and her peers WERE. So the manager down there talked to her and she agreed that she wasnt cutting it and quit. She even signed a paper that said "I voluntarily leave this organization".

6 months later she couldnt find a job. So she tries to SUE for being unfairly terminated.

So its Sunday night, my family and I are sitting down for a nice dinner and we get a knock on the door. Its a gentleman SERVING us.

WTF. It was a lawsuit against the CEO of the company because "He should know whats going on in his own company". So they were suing my dad personally.

Soooo the company lawyer says "hey, just write me a check for 15 grand and itll be over"

"come again?"

"Oh, the other lawyer can drag this out forever with motions and it doesnt matter that she signed the paper. Itll cost 60 grand just to get to the point where they declare it unfit to go to court. Thisll 15grand will end it now"

/.//

so we wrote the check and it was over.

Fucking women
Fucking lawyers
Fucking legal system

i edited my post...i left out an important part. before the fall, i would always bitch about it being too slippery and i would always say that someone could really hurt themselves, but no one gave a shit..that's the restaurant business for you. and, the manager on staff that night (flaming gay cokehead asshole...i didn't like him that much, lol) knew i had a really bad fall, and he conveniently disappeared after because he didn't want me to fill out an accident report. the people who saw me fall were freaking out, they thought i should go to a doctor and get checked out cuz it was that bad of a fall. anyway, you can't file a suit if there was no accident report...i didn't know that at the time, but obviously the manager did. that really pisses me off when i think about it. but like i said, i don't think filing a suit is worth the time. i'm just thankful i live with a chiropractor i get free cracks and therapy.

oh and orbax, in a situation like that, of course it's asinine to sue...that lady was just trying to get money. screw her.

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Originally posted by Orbax If you have health insurance they should cover it. The restaurant should be nice enough to do some workers comp. But in the end, you slipped and hurt yourself. Too many people blame "The Place Of Work" like its a fucking entity. You arent suing A Company youre suing a person. ...

this is a prefectly good reason why i hate lawyers, the judicial system here, and especially these f'n small petty lawsuits ... they have the small claims courts for those, but do other countries have those? i think the u.s. is the only country that has small claims court.

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Originally posted by tu_face its mainly down to the fact that you can sue anyone, for anything in america. its a shit-arse culture if you ask me.

EXACTLY! and what happened in Germany when these fu-kers from SCO tried to pull the same thing? .. The German government told them to stfu.

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Originally posted by loconet EXACTLY! and what happened in Germany when these fu-kers from SCO tried to pull the same thing? .. The German government told them to stfu.

love the sig dude..
you can also mention that we can be friends and inherit other's parts..

Its Java but whatever

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Originally posted by Orbax Its Java but whatever http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Orbax/java.jpg

haahhaha .. get "string" from the "object"...
i have never thought about it "that" way..
whoever made that pic has a dirty mind..

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange i find it funny that you ridule the american legal system, which derives itself from your legal system.

i will ridicule any legal system where someone can sue because the coffee they bought was hot.

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Originally posted by tu_face i will ridicule any legal system where someone can sue because the coffee they bought was hot.

the highly celebrated case you're talking about arose because the coffee was much hotter than it should have been, not because it was hot per se.

for instance, say you walk into a local coffee shop and you buy a coffee, you might expect it to be about 100 degree farenheit or so (whatever the case may be). suppose shop-owner sells you coffee that was 200 or more degrees F (or twice the temnperature), then under the law that may be unlawful as negligence because a reasonable person would not sell coffee that hot.

yes, the law sucks sometimes, but were there are benefits, there are costs. that's the system though.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange the highly celebrated case you're talking about arose because the coffee was much hotter than it should have been, not because it was hot per se. for instance, say you walk into a local coffee shop and you buy a coffee, you might expect it to be about 100 degree farenheit or so (whatever the case may be). suppose shop-owner sells you coffee that was 200 or more degrees F (or twice the temnperature), then under the law that may be unlawful as negligence because a reasonable person would not sell coffee that hot.

its a ridiculous concept.

you make coffee with boiling water, which is around 100 degree centigrade, and will not deviate more than 1 or 2 degrees above that. when you buy coffee what the hell do you expect? if you gulp a cup of coffee down without taking a little sip to test the heat first its your own stupid fault. unless you are in america that is...

can people sue kettle manufacturers because they boil the water too hot? what happens if your mum makes you a cup of coffee?

it seems that even if it is down to pure stupidity, you need to be bloody warned about it. do they put warnings on knives?

warning: sharp blade

no shit sherlock.

this is COR not PDD

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange this is COR not PDD

lol, maybe the thread quality is too high for COR

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Originally posted by tu_face lol, maybe the thread quality is too high for COR

i check my brain at the door. its funnerer taht way

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