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Posted by josh4 on Dec-20-2004 19:11:

President: Deficit will be cut in half in five years

Bush pushes second-term agenda
President: Deficit will be cut in half in five years
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...h.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush said Monday he will submit a federal budget that will half the deficit in five years and maintain strict spending discipline.

"We will provide every tool and resource for our military, we will protect the homeland," Bush said. He said he would "maintain strict discipline in spending tax dollars."

In the 17th news conference of his presidency, Bush was pushing his second-term agenda.

Bush said he will submit a federal budget that will cut the deficit in half in five years and maintain strict spending discipline. His fiscal 2006 budget is due to Congress in February.

"We will submit a budget that fits the times. It will provide every tool and resource to the military, will protect the homeland, and meet other priorities of the government," he said.

With a growing number of lawmakers, including Republicans, voicing no confidence in Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Bush defended his Pentagon chief.

"Beneath that rough and gruff no-nonsense demeanor is a good human being who cares deeply about the military and the grief that war causes," Bush said, batting away criticism that Rumsfeld had not personally signed condolence letters to the families of troops who have died.

Rumsfeld agreed to Bush's request this month to stay in the Cabinet during the president's second term and has won repeated votes of confidence from the White House since.

Critics have raised questions about whether enough U.S. troops are in Iraq to bring security for the elections. More than 1,300 American troops have died since the war began in March 2003. Also, soldiers have complained about long deployments and a lack of armored vehicles and other equipment.

Rumsfeld agreed to Bush's request this month to stay in the Cabinet during the president's second term and has won repeated votes of confidence from the White House since.

Bush pointedly acknowledged that Iraqi troops are not ready to take over their country's security, and cautioned that next month's elections there are only the beginning of a long process toward democracy.

"I certainly don't expect the process to be trouble-free," Bush said.

"The elections in January are the beginning of a process and it is important for the American people to understand that," he said.

He said "I would call the results mixed" on a U.S. effort to put Iraqi security in the hands of its own people.

"When the heat got on, they left the battlefield -- that is unacceptable," he said. "We are under no illusion that this Iraqi force is not ready to fight in toto."

On Social Security, Bush said he recognized that there would be "difficult choices" but he wouldn't lay out specifics until Congress has a chance to address the issue.

"The first step in this process is for members of Congress to realize we have a problem," he said. Without any changes, Social Security would begin paying more in benefits than it takes in by 2018.

"The first step in this process is for members of Congress to realize we have a problem," he said.

Bush defended his close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin, with whom he has had disagreements over the war on terror and, more recently, over the disputed elections in Ukraine.

"The relationship's an important relationship and I would call the relationship a good relationship," Bush said, adding that he's talked with Putin about getting Russia admitted to the World Trade Organization.

Bush also said he work toward giving both Russia and the United States equal access to nuclear storage sites.

Over the years, Bush has toned down criticism of Russia's campaign against separatist rebels in Chechnya, and Putin has acquiesced to U.S. troops being stationed in Central Asia, close to Moscow.

But earlier this month, Putin said he could not imagine how Iraqi elections that the Bush administration scheduled for January 30 could be held under "conditions of occupation by foreign forces," a reference to the United States.

Bush also defended his failed nomination of former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik to be the Homeland Security secretary. The controversy over the nomination raised questions about the ability of the White House to fully vet its nominees.

"In retrospect he made the right decision to pull his name down," Bush said. "The lessons learned is continue to vet and ask questions."

Bush didn't tip his hand about who might be nominated to be the new national intelligence director -- a post created by the largest overhaul of U.S. intelligence-gathering in a half century that Bush signed into law last week.

The new law creates a national intelligence center and a powerful new position of national intelligence direction to oversee the nation's 15 separate intelligence agencies.

"I'm going to find somebody who knows something about intelligence," Bush said, "and capable and honest and ready to do the job."


Posted by Trancer-X on Dec-20-2004 22:42:

Re: President: Deficit will be cut in half in five years

quote:

"I'm going to find somebody who knows something about intelligence," Bush said," and capable and honest and ready to do the job."




I couldn't help laughing at that quote.

I really hope he's telling the truth for a change.


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In pondering this, I don't know how it could be possible - especially with the mounting costs of war, etc.


Posted by St_Andrew on Dec-21-2004 04:37:

hahaha, that is funny indeed!

and wow, cut it in half in five years, gj!


Posted by Krypton on Dec-21-2004 05:11:

there's going to have to be about 3.5 trillion paid off by 2010. the estimated annual budget is about 3 trillion. and to top it off witha global war, and domestic costs, how is bush going to do it.


Posted by Trancer-X on Dec-21-2004 05:33:

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Posted by St_Andrew on Dec-21-2004 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
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i dont think that is what bush is intending to cut in half. just the annual defecit, not the debt?

More funny quotes:

"maintain strict discipline in spending tax dollars."

He said "I would call the results mixed" on a U.S. effort to put Iraqi security in the hands of its own people.


Posted by Reverend_Trance on Dec-21-2004 08:38:

This will happen when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.


Posted by Trancer-X on Dec-21-2004 09:01:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
i dont think that is what bush is intending to cut in half. just the annual defecit, not the debt?

More funny quotes:

"maintain strict discipline in spending tax dollars."

He said "I would call the results mixed" on a U.S. effort to put Iraqi security in the hands of its own people.


Yeah, you're totally right. WTF was I thinking?

I still think that it's a stretch considering that in the last four years all we've seen was ridiculously errant and historically egregious spending.


Posted by ResonantDrag on Dec-21-2004 14:09:

quote:
He said he would "maintain strict discipline in spending tax dollars."


i couldn't get past the first line


Posted by Reverend_Trance on Dec-21-2004 17:52:

quote:
Originally posted by ResonantDrag
i couldn't get past the first line


Usually Republicans are the fiscal conservatives, but all this Homeland Security stuff costs a crap load of money and bloats the bureaucracy even more.


Posted by Trancer-X on Dec-21-2004 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
Usually Republicans are the fiscal conservatives


Historically, yes - but ole' Ronnie Reagan changed all that for the conservatives. They're not fiscally conservative anymore, as pork-barrel legislation has grown to be the norm.

John McCain has really been outspoken about it.


http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?...&Content_id=726

http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?...&Content_id=936

http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?...&Content_id=222

http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?...&Content_id=508


This is what these guys are - "Vulcan's"
MCCAIN OBJECTS TO $2 MILLION VULCAN STATUE FACELIFT

In relation to the previous link:
The Vulcans Consolidate


Posted by Trancer-X on Dec-21-2004 19:38:

quote:

This is what these guys are - "Vulcan's"
MCCAIN OBJECTS TO $2 MILLION VULCAN STATUE FACELIFT



quote:
"Mr. President, I ask my colleagues to extinguish this Roman god of Fire and strike a victory for taxpayers -- and Metis, the goddess of prudence � by throttling down our insatiable appetite for pork barrel spending -- starting today."

- Senator John McCain


Posted by josh4 on Dec-21-2004 19:38:

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Originally posted by Trancer-X
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thats the debt not the deficit

lol if he cut the debt in half i might actually change my opinion about him


Posted by zig on Dec-21-2004 19:51:

Think he would want to start looking at the debt like real soon..dollar is sinking and the debt is unsustainable


Posted by x-filer on Dec-24-2004 00:02:

I don't think Bush really cares for the debt. Hes a republican they never do any good while in office.


Posted by Reverend_Trance on Dec-24-2004 02:06:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
I don't think Bush really cares for the debt. Hes a republican they never do any good while in office.


Ronald Reagan was a pretty cool Republican president. He lowered taxes and increased the military/ While the national debt increased, he kicked the Soviet Union's ass!


Posted by Sevas Stra on Dec-24-2004 04:40:

and the homeless population was the size of Atlanta. Good job with the domestic front Mr. Reagan. R.I.P.


Posted by Reverend_Trance on Dec-24-2004 11:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Sevas Stra
and the homeless population was the size of Atlanta. Good job with the domestic front Mr. Reagan. R.I.P.


In my lifetime I have noticed this. The homeless according to the media were rampant under Reagan and George H. W. Bush. Under Clinton, the homeless are non-exsistant. Under George W. Bush, the homeless are back again!

Republicans cause homelessness!


Posted by Sevas Stra on Dec-24-2004 20:56:

Lol. The Republicans during those years concentrated more on foreign afairs, though. Reagan destroyed USSR and Bush is confused but is trying to destroy something . Clinton on the other hand got ..handjobs and did a whole lot of ZZzzZZzZzz zzzzZzzz.


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Dec-25-2004 03:19:

what a fucking badass, I think im in love with bush.

did someone say that bush is doing bad on the homefront, think again.
In President Bush�s first term the economy has grown by 4.8% and productivity is at the fastest growing rate in the last 50 years. Home owner ship is up to 68.6%, the highest in history. The Private sector GDP (Gross Domestic Product) growth rate is up to 5.3 percent, comparable to the administration before, at 2.5%. In the first three months of 2004 500,000 jobs were created, since August of 2004 alone, more than 1.5 million Jobs have been created, and contrary to popular belief, these jobs have been not only high paying, but respectable positions. A quote from the Chicago Federal Reserve September 2004 had this to say: �Those sectors paying above the national average constitute just under three-fourths of total employment growth (including five of the seven fastest growing industries), despite representing only 65% of total employment. Thus, it appears that high-paying sectors are adding jobs faster than we might expect given their share of total employment.�


Posted by NYGblue on Dec-25-2004 04:30:

he better lower it... any person here who believes that is not a serious problem is ignorant to reality.


Posted by St_Andrew on Dec-25-2004 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
what a fucking badass, I think im in love with bush.

did someone say that bush is doing bad on the homefront, think again.
In President Bush�s first term the economy has grown by 4.8% and productivity is at the fastest growing rate in the last 50 years. Home owner ship is up to 68.6%, the highest in history. The Private sector GDP (Gross Domestic Product) growth rate is up to 5.3 percent, comparable to the administration before, at 2.5%. In the first three months of 2004 500,000 jobs were created, since August of 2004 alone, more than 1.5 million Jobs have been created, and contrary to popular belief, these jobs have been not only high paying, but respectable positions. A quote from the Chicago Federal Reserve September 2004 had this to say: �Those sectors paying above the national average constitute just under three-fourths of total employment growth (including five of the seven fastest growing industries), despite representing only 65% of total employment. Thus, it appears that high-paying sectors are adding jobs faster than we might expect given their share of total employment.�


there is one flaw there tho, you debt is increasing more than your GDP.


Posted by Sevas Stra on Dec-25-2004 09:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
what a fucking badass, I think im in love with bush.

did someone say that bush is doing bad on the homefront, think again.
In President Bush�s first term the economy has grown by 4.8% and productivity is at the fastest growing rate in the last 50 years. Home owner ship is up to 68.6%, the highest in history. The Private sector GDP (Gross Domestic Product) growth rate is up to 5.3 percent, comparable to the administration before, at 2.5%. In the first three months of 2004 500,000 jobs were created, since August of 2004 alone, more than 1.5 million Jobs have been created, and contrary to popular belief, these jobs have been not only high paying, but respectable positions. A quote from the Chicago Federal Reserve September 2004 had this to say: �Those sectors paying above the national average constitute just under three-fourths of total employment growth (including five of the seven fastest growing industries), despite representing only 65% of total employment. Thus, it appears that high-paying sectors are adding jobs faster than we might expect given their share of total employment.�


Also, Foreign Invesment is sky-rocketing back up due to alot of his strong efforts to secure America. Go Bush.


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Dec-25-2004 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
there is one flaw there tho, you debt is increasing more than your GDP.


either way, it had to be done. We were losing jobs at such an alarming rate from the Tech bubble burst that started a recession, Enron, and Sept 11 all made such a ghastly job market that something had to be done. So Bush insighted massive tax cuts to spur the job growth, adn did it ever. With one of the most genious economic plans ever, Mr. Bush and his team of equally badass and genious people have created, in the past 4 years, over 20 million jobs.


Posted by St_Andrew on Dec-26-2004 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
either way, it had to be done. We were losing jobs at such an alarming rate from the Tech bubble burst that started a recession, Enron, and Sept 11 all made such a ghastly job market that something had to be done. So Bush insighted massive tax cuts to spur the job growth, adn did it ever. With one of the most genious economic plans ever, Mr. Bush and his team of equally badass and genious people have created, in the past 4 years, over 20 million jobs.


well, im not an economist, but i think there is pretty much in bush's economic policies that could have been done better.


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