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what is real acid?

all these comments about music having acid elements in them.

got me wondering.

What do you mean by "real acid"?

rofl, "real acid". Acid is a sound. It's either acid or not.

if it has hoovers in, or influenced by Oakenfold post-98, probably not acid?

Then real acid would be the sound derived from the Roland TB-303.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Then real acid would be the sound derived from the Roland TB-303.

And to hear acid exercised to its fullest extent in one track I suggest listening to DJ Misjah - Temple Of Acid. 16 minutes of acidy goodness. Acidy? It's a word trust me.

"Acid" is any sound made by a TB 303 or a sound that emulates it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J "Acid" is any sound made by a TB 303 or a sound that emulates it.

Yea it's a sound that was fairly big around the late 80's and into the 90's. The acid house scene in the UK was huge. As acid eventually turned into rave you can generally safely associate acid with fairly harsh electronic noises produced with a 303 as system j said.

Nathan Fake - Undoing the laces

josh wink - highwer state of conciousness, is 303 abuse.

junk project - braintool, hard acid.

also, there can also be a bridge between electro and acid, when the electro bassline stops breaking up as much, and becomes more fluid, it can sort of double as acid. ive heard a couple of choons that are both...

Simple answer: Any sound produced from the Roland TB-303 is Acid.

ASYS - Acid Headcracker (303 Inferno Mix)

Acid sounds were created using the Roland TB-303 analogue bass synthesizer by tweaking the resonance and frequency cut-off dials.

By now you probably know what synth produces the acid sound, so let's take a look on it and the tunes produced with its might.

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The TB303 (Transistor Bass) was introduced in the early 1982's together with the TR606 Drumatix (Transistor Rythm) by Roland. It was invented by Tadao Kikumoto. At that time the 303 was not an expensive piece, only about �215. The two small plastic-pieces were intended to emulate a real bass player and a real drummer. Obviously only very few musicians used the TB303 and TR606 for that purpose because the machines just could not replace the real thing. Their sounds didn't anywhere come near a real bass or drumset, and the musicians didn't want to go through the time-consuming task of programming the machines. Since nobody wanted the TB303 anymore, Roland stopped producing them 18 months after releasing it. At that time they'd produced about 20.000 copies alltogether. It was not until 1987 when a DJ (rumors has it that it was DJ Pierre) came up with the idea to turn the knobs while playing the TB303 that acid house was born. After that the machine suddently became more and more wanted and soaked for. http://www.tb-303.org/info/history.asp

Yes, yes, yes! DJ Pierre (aka Marshall Jefferson) started it all by discovering this magic tiny box. What was the best thing that could ever happen to it?! It was brought to England!

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Acid house party From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. An acid house party was a type of illegal party typically staged in warehouses in 1987-88. In the UK the most famous illegal party promoters were Genesis'88, Sunrise and Energy. Eventually the acid house parties morphed into the modern rave scene.

The box was welcomed with jubilee and glee in the cities like Manchester... and then

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Acid techno From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Acid techno is the term used to describe a style of techno that originated in the London squat party scene in the early 1990s. It is characterised by heavy use of the Roland TB-303 for bass and lead sounds, a less repetitive sound than many other forms of techno (early influences included the German acid trance scene) and an irreverant, often-political attitude seen in the titles and samples used in many of its tracks; many of the scene's originators had originally been part of the punk scene. Early labels such as Stay Up Forever, Smitten and Routemaster While acid techno originated mainly in the London scene it soon spread across the UK and then internationally and is today popular in many countries. However despite this it still continues to be mainly a very underground form of music with little commercial impact, and is often seen to be synonymous with the squat party scene. Over the last few years acid techno has evolved away from a predominantly 303-based sound into a much broader genre of techno that still retains its dancefloor-friendly ethos and lack of pretention. Newer labels such as Hydraulix, Cluster, 4x4 Records, RAW and Power Tools reflect this newer sound.

This is it, that's the acid apex - Acid Techno. Now you might be wondering - when do you get to hear what acid music actually is? Don't worry, my friend here are the examples (tags are on the Real Audio files):

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example #7

Midnite Rumours - Cesar Del Rio & Juan Magan

I forgot...Acid Comes - Secret Cinema, wonderfull acid!!!

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Originally posted by Lira Yes, yes, yes! DJ Pierre (aka Marshall Jefferson) started it all by discovering this magic tiny box.

http://www.discogs.com/release/1949

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Hardly the first ever record to use the tb-303 for an acid sound (DAF "Verschwende Deine Jugend" 1982, Heaven 17 "Let Me Go" 1982, Sleazy D "I've Lost Control" 1985, Section 25 "Looking From A Hilltop" 1982), but it uses it to a much more powerful effect. 12 minutes is a bit long for such a simple beat and acid line but nevertheless one of the trippiest records ever. Pyschadelic, scary stuff.

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Originally posted by Radagast http://www.discogs.com/release/1949

I learned something new today then... I'm going to look for these other tunes

I've never understood the popularity of the acid sound. To me its always sounded awful and its just become so overused lately.Is it the sort of sound you only appreciate once you've actully tried acid, or just my opinion?

It's awesome when used right (the sound, not the drug ), but can get very tiring when used in mediocre goa/psy tracks.

i have an image on my hard drive that i need to post :s

So do I. Well, I don't have to post it, I could just look at it for a while... just a while...

can i see it too please

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Originally posted by Ory It's awesome when used right (the sound, not the drug ), but can get very tiring when used in mediocre goa/psy tracks.

I concur.

Acid is any sound made by a TB-303 or a sound that emulates it(aka. a sound made by me after eating a bowl of baked beans).

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