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Posted by St_Andrew on Jan-13-2005 23:00:

US 'erodes' global human rights?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4171177.stm

the article really has a good point. US should deal with some of its own human rights problems to be taken more seriously.

Posted by zig on Jan-13-2005 23:37:

The US has always had issues with human rights,that most countrys and their populations wouldnt tolerate.

ie: The death penalty

Posted by x-filer on Jan-13-2005 23:38:

eh oh well dont u know we are hypocrites?

Posted by BadBadNeil on Jan-14-2005 00:07:

you are right! and while we are at it I say we don't spend a single cent on any other nation on this planet until we solve all our problems first!

Posted by x-filer on Jan-14-2005 00:11:

Posted by BadBadNeil on Jan-14-2005 00:22:

responding to the initial post. If i want to talk to you i will quote you.

Racist?

Posted by x-filer on Jan-14-2005 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil

Racist?

i am i racist or r u cuz u r a puerto rican. ur ppl are racist towards all the other hispanic groups. Trust me the PR's dont like us Mexicans here in chicago.

Posted by zig on Jan-14-2005 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
responding to the initial post. If i want to talk to you i will quote you.

Racist?

Explain? Thread post or first response to the thread...

Posted by x-filer on Jan-14-2005 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by zig
Explain? Thread post or first response to the thread...

wut? now i am just lost thanks u fuck.

Posted by NYGblue on Jan-14-2005 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
i am i racist or r u cuz u r a puerto rican. ur ppl are racist towards all the other hispanic groups. Trust me the PR's dont like us Mexicans here in chicago.

They aren't racist they just have a MASSIVE inferiority complex because they are the 2nd most overweight group of people AND they aren't a country...

Disclaimer Note: look at my flag, its all in good fun!

Posted by zig on Jan-14-2005 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
wut? now i am just lost thanks u fuck.

LOL..your english is getting better..LOL

he mentioned the initial post..so im wondering if its me...

Posted by Shakka on Jan-14-2005 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
i am i racist or r u cuz u r a puerto rican. ur ppl are racist towards all the other hispanic groups. Trust me the PR's dont like us Mexicans here in chicago.

If I'm not mistaken, that comment was much more along the lines of "racism" than anything that BadBadNeil said. You just made a broad sweeping generalization about Puerto Ricans. Not to mention your typing skills badly need improvement.

Posted by x-filer on Jan-14-2005 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by zig
LOL..your english is getting better..LOL

hey what the fuck! I live in Chicago so my english is good and i at least know how to speack another language other than english. So HA HA HA 2 u!

Posted by zig on Jan-14-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
wut? now i am just lost thanks u fuck.

Well translate that for a start...LOL

Posted by x-filer on Jan-14-2005 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by zig
Well translate that for a start...LOL

what? Thanks to you I am now lost. Thank you, you fuck

Posted by zig on Jan-14-2005 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
what? Thanks to you I am now lost. Thank you, you fuck

ok...LOL

Posted by Dj Tomer on Jan-14-2005 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
hey what the fuck! I live in Chicago so my english is good and i at least know how to speack another language other than english. So HA HA HA 2 u!

Want a medal?

Posted by x-filer on Jan-14-2005 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Tomer
Want a medal?

sure u fucking canadian.

Posted by BadBadNeil on Jan-14-2005 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
If I'm not mistaken, that comment was much more along the lines of "racism" than anything that BadBadNeil said. You just made a broad sweeping generalization about Puerto Ricans. Not to mention your typing skills badly need improvement.

exactly

edit: sorry for bringing this to an off topic thread. My first post was at the thread starter and when comments that seemed to be racial were sent my way for no reason I felt I needed to respond.

Please continue with the thread as intended

Posted by St_Andrew on Jan-14-2005 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
you are right! and while we are at it I say we don't spend a single cent on any other nation on this planet until we solve all our problems first!

well, if you did solve all your problems, i for one wouldnt have any huge problems with that now that would be a really hard thing to do tho. my point is that you should at least take really big messurements against things that contradict your basic values which now is one of the few reasons left as to why you want to war...

Posted by zig on Jan-14-2005 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
exactly

edit: sorry for bringing this to an off topic thread. My first post was at the thread starter and when comments that seemed to be racial were sent my way for no reason I felt I needed to respond.

Please continue with the thread as intended

Naw i didnt think you meant me..but just checked to clarify..anyway you did me a favour..i havnt had such a good laugh in weeks trying to decipher x-filers posts..he can speak 2 languages and most of them i cant understand...ROFL..LOL

Posted by BadBadNeil on Jan-14-2005 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by zig
Naw i didnt think you meant me..but just checked to clarify..anyway you did me a favour..i havnt had such a good laugh in weeks trying to decipher x-filers posts..he can speak 2 languages and most of them i cant understand...ROFL..LOL

you and me both!

quote:

well, if you did solve all your problems, i for one wouldnt have any huge problems with that now that would be a really hard thing to do tho. my point is that you should at least take really big messurements against things that contradict your basic values which now is one of the few reasons left as to why you want to war...

Well the article bases the US human global rights only on two things,
Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, not against our own citizens or normal combatants. The values are a bit skewed in that the US is stuck in a hard place with these two examples in that unlike a Germany in world war II where you could let prisoners go and they just go back to their lives without an army to join, these prisoners (as seen recently in pakistan) when released will just go back to join the jihad and kill innocents. Do you risk releasing them when you know this will happen?

I'd like to get details on the interrogation techniques before I make personal judgement if they are excessively harsh.

Posted by St_Andrew on Jan-14-2005 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Well the article bases the US human global rights only on two things,
Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, not against our own citizens or normal combatants. The values are a bit skewed in that the US is stuck in a hard place with these two examples in that unlike a Germany in world war II where you could let prisoners go and they just go back to their lives without an army to join, these prisoners (as seen recently in pakistan) when released will just go back to join the jihad and kill innocents. Do you risk releasing them when you know this will happen?

I'd like to get details on the interrogation techniques before I make personal judgement if they are excessively harsh.

well, i dont have any problem with you having POWs or whatever, but i do have a problem when they dont even get a trial, and when they get abused. The bush adminstration has not taken the abuse problem seriously at all imo, which gives a bad message.

Posted by BadBadNeil on Jan-14-2005 04:57:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
well, i dont have any problem with you having POWs or whatever, but i do have a problem when they dont even get a trial, and when they get abused. The bush adminstration has not taken the abuse problem seriously at all imo, which gives a bad message.

What do you recommend? They have already yanked those responsible in the photos and are putting them on trial. Unless you are saying that the abuse orders came from his mouth.

Posted by Sevas Stra on Jan-14-2005 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by x-filer
i am i racist or r u cuz u r a puerto rican. ur ppl are racist towards all the other hispanic groups. Trust me the PR's dont like us Mexicans here in chicago.

stop flying that fucking third world flag first of all, and PR have nothing to do with Mexicans it's like saying Dominicans and Hatians are the same.

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