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Posted by calculmore on Jan-16-2005 05:06:

great new vocal dance trance tunes.

anything came out lately? i'ts been dry. i'm into all types of style. mostly house but i also like the commercial dance tunes. some cheesy as u guys call it and some quality

what are some that is out now or is popular.


Posted by mto on Jan-16-2005 05:07:

ATRC


Posted by Ory on Jan-16-2005 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by mto
ATRC


I hope you're not saying that's quality.


Posted by MarathonMan on Jan-16-2005 08:51:

Bluefish - Its been too long


Posted by qussay on Jan-16-2005 08:59:

well , i dont know how new those tracks are , but they are good vocal tracks in my opnion

rachel starr - till there was you ( gabriel & dresden remix )
IIO - Runaway (original, evolved , austin leeds , frank bailey )


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jan-16-2005 09:17:

mylo - in my arms


Posted by nwopper on Jan-16-2005 15:39:

Beber & Tamra - Travelling on (Gabriel & Dresden rmx)
Hampshire & Nysse - Eternal Voices (Airwave rmx)
La Luna - Fallin'

But they're all old....


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-16-2005 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
I hope you're not saying that's quality.

I hope you're not saying that's not the best trance song of all time... Just because its popular, you think it sucks... Well, the vocals are simply the best i've ever heard, and the bassline is the most original ive ever heard


Posted by BlueVision on Jan-16-2005 16:00:

Masters & Nickson feat. Justine Suissa - Out There (5th Dimension)


Posted by Ory on Jan-16-2005 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
I hope you're not saying that's not the best trance song of all time... Just because its popular, you think it sucks... Well, the vocals are simply the best i've ever heard, and the bassline is the most original ive ever heard


I don't like it. Period. I don't care if a track is popular or not, think you'd understand that by now.


Posted by nwopper on Jan-16-2005 16:04:

Everytime Ory comes around shit got stirred somehow...

Hmm well...some vocaltracks (really cheesy ones):

QED - Hardly a day goes by
Lacara - Everytime we touch

Non cheesy ones:

Andain - Summer Calling (Airwave rmx)
Lily Haydn - Anything (Gabriel & Dresden rmx)


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
I hope you're not saying that's not the best trance song of all time... Just because its popular, you think it sucks... Well, the vocals are simply the best i've ever heard, and the bassline is the most original ive ever heard


It really is a pop song with a beat behind it. An instrumental version would be boring as fuck, because there really isn't anything to this track.


Posted by Radagast on Jan-16-2005 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It really is a pop song with a beat behind it.


Oh yeah? I agree. Along with every other epic trance track.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Oh yeah? I agree. Along with every other epic trance track.


A good 50% of epic trance is instrumental, ruling it out from being pop music. Another 20% would stand up on its own as instrumental music. Then there's 30% which is just a feel-good vocal blabbering about sunsets and love to an incredibly weak instrumental backing.


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-16-2005 17:16:

lol @ sunsets


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by D.Edge
what about the instrumentals which have had naff vocals tacked onto them in the name of "gaining a wider audience"? wouldn't they inadvertantly become pop, or would they have already been pop enough to begin with?


They fall under the "stand up as instrumentals" because the vocal version is almost invariably crap, and were never intended to have vocals in them.


Posted by Radagast on Jan-16-2005 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
A good 50% of epic trance is instrumental, ruling it out from being pop music.


Instrumental pop music, pop music, what's the difference. Vocals are the difference between trance and pop music? What? No, minus the vocals, the track is epic trance. So non vocal epic trance = instrumental pop music. Sandstorm is not pop? Chldren is not pop? Pop = Popular music.


quote:
Then there's 30% which is just a feel-good vocal blabbering about sunsets and love to an incredibly weak instrumental backing.


Now the content of the lyrics is what makes pop music? And because the backing is maybe bad epic trance, it's different than other epic trance? HELLO? What are you talking about?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Instrumental pop music, pop music, what's the difference. Vocals are the difference between trance and pop music? What? No, minus the vocals, the track is epic trance. So non vocal epic trance = instrumental pop music. Sandstorm is not pop? Chldren is not pop? Pop = Popular music.




Now the content of the lyrics is what makes pop music? And because the backing is maybe bad epic trance, it's different than other epic trance? HELLO? What are you talking about?


Pop music is one particular style of music. Pop= the most popular style of music at the time. And in modern music, pop has never been instrumental. Pop is vocal-centric. Pop is pop because people like singing along to it. Any music that puts vocals and lyrical content above musical content can be considered pop music, whether it's "with a beat", "with guitars" or "with a Scottish bag-pipe section".

Epic trance is obviously not pop, the very things that define epic trance prevent it from being pop. Thus I dismiss ATRC as pop. To me it isn't epic trance.

Now I await your bullshit synopsis of epic trance involving the words "supersaws", "melodies" and "accessible". None of which will ever, in a million years, make epic trance pop music.


Posted by Ory on Jan-16-2005 17:59:

It doesn't have to have vocals. It can just be a catchy melody that sticks in your head for weeks; a melody most can easily recognize. The vocals just enhance this.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
It doesn't have to have vocals. It can just be a catchy melody that sticks in your head for weeks; a melody most can easily recognize. The vocals just enhance this.


A catchy melody does not make anything pop. What kind of fucking stupid statement is that?


Posted by Ory on Jan-16-2005 18:06:

Why not? If alot of people know the melody by heart, it's popular. Pop music.


Posted by Radagast on Jan-16-2005 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Pop music is one particular style of music. Pop= the most popular style of music at the time. And in modern music, pop has never been instrumental. Pop is vocal-centric. Pop is pop because people like singing along to it. Any music that puts vocals and lyrical content above musical content can be considered pop music, whether it's "with a beat", "with guitars" or "with a Scottish bag-pipe section".


No, pop music = popular music. Music that has entered popular culture through radio for example. Music intended for mass consumption. Music that caters to a broad audience. Music with chorus easily memorable melodies/vocals. Melodies and vocals that you can hum and sing. That get stuck in your head. Easily accessible music. Music you hear on the radio. Music you see on MTV or other music video channels.

Not all pop music has vocals, and not all music with vocals is pop.

quote:
Epic trance is obviously not pop, the very things that define epic trance prevent it from being pop. Thus I dismiss ATRC as pop. To me it isn't epic trance.


Well it's a classic epic trance track, regardless of what it is to you. Vocals don't define epic trance. Structurally the track is epic trance.

quote:
Now I await your bullshit synopsis of epic trance involving the words "supersaws", "melodies" and "accessible". None of which will ever, in a million years, make epic trance pop music.


No, the fact that you see an epic trance track regularly on european top 20 dance charts makes it pop music. The fact that several have made it in to widespread play in almost every country including america makes it pop music.


Posted by Cloud on Jan-16-2005 18:26:

stop...


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
No, the fact that you see an epic trance track regularly on european top 20 dance charts makes it pop music. The fact that several have made it in to widespread play in almost every country including america makes it pop music.


Wow, the top 20 dance charts? Holy shit Batman, we have trance in the dance charts? You think you're precious classic trance never topped a dance chart? Several track have made it to widespread play, you say? That must be half a dozen tracks out of several thousands over 9 years. Fucking hell, it puts Britney and Madonna in the shade, don't it?

I live in Britain, which is the country where EDM has the highest profile anywhere in the world. In a year where dance music spent 10 weeks at number one and we had Top 10 albums by The Prodigy, Fatboy Slim, Faithless and Groove Armada, epic trance barely made a dent on the radio or TV.

Say what you like, music does not become pop just because it appears on MTV. There is a distinctive genre of music that is only definable by the term "pop". That is pop music. Anything else is not pop music. It is as simple as that, and your mardy elitist rants to the contrary are wrong.


Posted by sigmanova on Jan-16-2005 18:39:

i'm a sucker for vocal trance songs

Mike Shiver & Elevation feat. Carrie Skipper - Hurricane (Mike Shiver Mix)
Whiteroom feat. Amy Cooper - Someday (Original Vocal Mix)
Narcotic Thrust - When The Dawn Breaks (Cicada Remix)
DT8 Project feat. Andrea Britton - Winter (Max Graham's Sidechain Mix)

but there hasn't been alot coming out


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