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Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:01:

Respect for Trance, Techno and other EDM

This thread was initiated because I read the thread titled "What does trance mean to you" but I wish to digress.

I've had many arguments with many people who don't think that dance music especially the kind we here prefer, deserves the same respect as other mainstream genres, rock being the principle choice of the people I have argued with.

I've been told for example:

"you can't describe a feeling with dance music cos it has no lyrics".

"dance music is all about making you feel good, there is nothing else"

"anyone can do it if they learn how, cos you have to use a computer"

"the computer does most of the work for you"

"not everybody can play a guitar"

I can't remember the myriad of points I have heard or spewed because I have argued so many points on this subject and I fully respect the time and effort that goes into ALL forms of music. I'm a student sound engineer and do not work with dance music 24/7 (had to get that bit in) but i'd like to hear other peoples views and preferably similair experiences, i'm sure there have been many.

Many many thanks to all who post as this subject means a lot to me.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Feb-10-2005 23:04:

Re: Respect for Trance, Techno and other EDM

quote:
Originally posted by Kev K
This thread was initiated because I read the thread titled "What does trance mean to you" but I wish to digress.

I've had many arguments with many people who don't think that dance music especially the kind we here prefer, deserves the same respect as other mainstream genres, rock being the principle choice of the people I have argued with.

I've been told for example:

"you can't describe a feeling with dance music cos it has no lyrics".

"dance music is all about making you feel good, there is nothing else"

"anyone can do it if they learn how, cos you have to use a computer"

"the computer does most of the work for you"

"not everybody can play a guitar"

I can't remember the myriad of points I have heard or spewed because I have argued so many points on this subject and I fully respect the time and effort that goes into ALL forms of music. I'm a student sound engineer and do not work with dance music 24/7 (had to get that bit in) but i'd like to hear other peoples views and preferably similair experiences, i'm sure there have been many.

Many many thanks to all who post as this subject means a lot to me.

why do you feel that you have to prove to others what you believe in?

Posted by Ory on Feb-10-2005 23:06:

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quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
why do you feel that you have to prove to others what you believe in?

'Cuz my opinion > your opinion. I know you didn't aim that question at me, but I'm answering it anyway, because I'm a pompous asshole.

Posted by mto on Feb-10-2005 23:09:

Sandstorm vs Ory.. Madison Square.

Posted by Ory on Feb-10-2005 23:10:

Glowsticks five dollars.

Posted by mto on Feb-10-2005 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Glowsticks five dollars.

I still think you two should shake hands. sandstorm is not as dumb as i thought he was, and even though you're annoying at times you know some things. Its hilarious watching you two in MD last 2 days.

Posted by 303 on Feb-10-2005 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Glowsticks five dollars.

hopefully there will be firearms avail too.

Posted by Ory on Feb-10-2005 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by mto

I still think you two should shake hands. sandstorm is not as dumb as i thought he was, and even though you're annoying at times you know some things. Its hilarious watching you two in MD last 2 days.

Haven't you noticed? I don't know shit, except my own flaws, which makes all you people's insults directed at me pointless. Go me.

Posted by Fresh Prince on Feb-10-2005 23:15:

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quote:
Originally posted by Ory
'Cuz my opinion > your opinion. I know you didn't aim that question at me, but I'm answering it anyway, because I'm a pompous asshole.

Funny you should say this

Anyway, I agree, I was thinking about similar thing lately, except that I'm more into trance myself, and I'm unhappy to see how many people on TA actually stray away from trance as genre itself, but embrace some foreign cultures like progressive, house, techno and god forbid tribal
Little humor there, but still, I don't know what happened but I don't like it.

Posted by mto on Feb-10-2005 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Haven't you noticed? I don't know shit, except my own flaws, which makes all you people's insults directed at me pointless. Go me.

Okay Socrates

Posted by sandstorm03 on Feb-10-2005 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by mto
Sandstorm vs Ory.. Madison Square.

it would have to be in the playground by the jungle gym, we should jump the armin tit .

Posted by mto on Feb-10-2005 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
it would have to be in the playground by the jungle gym, we should jump the armin tit .

Oh i got an idea! BACK YARD WRESTLING! I'll sell lemonade and provide chicks to carry round number signs.

Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:25:

I feel some people are getting away from the point here, I asked for views and experiences although I aprecciate the laughs.

Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:27:

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quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
why do you feel that you have to prove to others what you believe in?

I dont feel that I have to prove my beliefs. I have merely asked people why they don't respect the music I love and been told things which I don't agree with, hence the arguments.

Posted by mto on Feb-10-2005 23:28:

Dude I love all music. All genres of EDM, rock, punk, jazz, soul, hip-hop, reggaeton. I don't mind anything. If the track/song/tune appeals to me and if it makes me feel good.. i don't care what it is.

Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by mto
Dude I love all music. All genres of EDM, rock, punk, jazz, soul, hip-hop, reggaeton. I don't mind anything. If the track/song/tune appeals to me and if it makes me feel good.. i don't care what it is.

BUT, does dance music deserve the same respect as other genres, e.g, rock, soul, blues, funk, classical to name but a few?

Posted by sandstorm03 on Feb-10-2005 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by mto
Dude I love all music. All genres of EDM, rock, punk, jazz, soul, hip-hop, reggaeton. I don't mind anything. If the track/song/tune appeals to me and if it makes me feel good.. i don't care what it is.

werrd i liked britney spears - everytime

yes the original

Posted by mto on Feb-10-2005 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Kev K
BUT, does dance music deserve the same respect as other genres, e.g, rock, soul, blues, funk, classical to name but a few?

Oh and I love classical music.

And yes dance music deserves the same respect. Messing with knobs, synths, mixers, turntables and etc. takes talent to do it right. Therefore, like any other music, its art and it deserves respect.

Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by mto
Oh and I love classical music.

And yes dance music deserves the same respect. Messing with knobs, synths, mixers, turntables and etc. takes talent to do it right. Therefore, like any other music, its art and it deserves respect.

Thanks MTO, thats all i'm asking from anyone who reads this and simlair experiences to my own would be appreciated.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Feb-10-2005 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Kev K
BUT, does dance music deserve the same respect as other genres, e.g, rock, soul, blues, funk, classical to name but a few?

how can you possibly group all thoes together...

they all have their "clicks" the same people that listen to classical probably dont respect rock the same way...

edm(trance,house,techno...) for the most part probably has the most "un normal" for lack of better words culture.

especially with the ignorance of the american government...(for us americans, its to bad the rave act failed lol@!)

Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
how can you possibly group all thoes together...

they all have their "clicks" the same people that listen to classical probably dont respect rock the same way...

edm(trance,house,techno...) for the most part probably has the most "un normal" for lack of better words culture.

I'm not trying to group these genres together. I was only stating genres which are established.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Feb-10-2005 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Kev K
I'm not trying to group these genres together. I was only stating genres which are established.

you know 1 million people go to love parade in germany?

what do ya think the biggest rock gathering was??(hope it wasnt over a million) . And this happends yearly... so to call it un-established is false...

Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:49:

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edm(trance,house,techno...) for the most part probably has the most "un normal" for lack of better words culture.

especially with the ignorance of the american government...(for us americans, its to bad the rave act failed lol@!)

I know that most of the EDM culture is about taking drugs of whatever description. Governments may frown upon that and wish to be seen to condone it for whatever (VOTES) reason but a lot of music (think 50's 60's 70's 80's) was born this way. I can't argue with that but that's not my point is it.

Posted by Kev K on Feb-10-2005 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
you know 1 million people go to love parade in germany?

what do ya think the biggest rock gathering was??(hope it wasnt over a million) . And this happends yearly... so to call it un-established is false...

I never said un-established, but you could do me a favour and come talk to the people who i've been arguing with.

I only want EDM, especially trance and techno to be recognised and to hear other peoples experiences with narrow minded people, nothing more.

Posted by RickyM on Feb-10-2005 23:53:

The best music is classical music IMO, I like my Film scores, especially the Lord of The Rings soundtrack. Beats any EDM any time, any where.

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