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Posted by sym on Feb-19-2005 06:20:

Anyone here play guitar?

I'm thinking about trying to learn guitar. I've never learned any instrument in my life, and was just wondering if anyone has an suggestions. I am interested in buyin an electric guitar and amp nothing too expensive. I was looking into the Fender Squire series. Any suggestions?


Posted by Orbax on Feb-19-2005 06:26:

martin...get their 500 dollar guitar...db..something. im drunk or id remember. ive played for multiple years....yeah.go martin


Posted by beats and beeps on Feb-19-2005 07:15:

Yes I play guitar.

To be honest with you, what type of guitar you get is not THAT important, there are many out there that sound fine and function well (and are reliable) for quite a reasonable price. Once you learn you can go for a more prestigious guitar.

I'll tell you this much. Really learn to play guitar. I don't mean your friend showing you what fingers go where, or going like "yeah uh first finger second fret third string" Or looking up Tabs on the internet. Sure tabs have great instant gratification, but I really stress that you'll be much happier in a couple of years if you learn to play for real.

I'm sure you've heard that all before, but its always good to hear it again since its oftened drowned out by "oh yeah well *guitarist McGee* doesn't know how to read music, and look where he is! He's a fuckin millionaire!"


Posted by sym on Feb-19-2005 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Yes I play guitar.

To be honest with you, what type of guitar you get is not THAT important, there are many out there that sound fine and function well (and are reliable) for quite a reasonable price. Once you learn you can go for a more prestigious guitar.

I'll tell you this much. Really learn to play guitar. I don't mean your friend showing you what fingers go where, or going like "yeah uh first finger second fret third string" Or looking up Tabs on the internet. Sure tabs have great instant gratification, but I really stress that you'll be much happier in a couple of years if you learn to play for real.

I'm sure you've heard that all before, but its always good to hear it again since its oftened drowned out by "oh yeah well *guitarist McGee* doesn't know how to read music, and look where he is! He's a fuckin millionaire!"


Ya, well im really trying to learn it to learn it not just to be like OMGZ0rs look i can play blink 182. Although, girls seem to get nuts if you can play what's my age again....


Posted by Omega_Blue on Feb-19-2005 10:00:

I've been playing geetar for a good while now also. tab is definitely a good first step- while you don't learn the notes, you at least learn to really listen and pick apart a song, and you can start getting a general idea of rhythm. I wouldn't buy a martin for your first guitar, because they're fuckin expensive. I would just pick up a cheap fender acoustic or get a squier strat pack (guitar,amp,cables,picks) for like 200 bucks. and if you want to start learning improvisation and all the more technical shit, music theory is a must. I think any and all of us who actually can PLAY the guitar spent hours upon hours of practicing, so stay committed and it will pay off.


Posted by Project 7 on Feb-19-2005 14:21:

ive been playing the guitar now for 9 years

its not that much of a good thing tbo, i havnt got much pleasure out of it i dont find it interesting that much anymore


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-19-2005 14:21:

yah i play the guitar, great fun...

if ur into the more modern rock, i suggest drop tuning ur guitar (for simplicity of play) and just learn the tones and techniques used in rock/metal tunes.

also u dont need a super nice looking expensive guitar to sound good, i can get them heavy metal sounds out my red strat...it comes down to ur equipment and playing style to get the sound u want.

but if ur playing mellow tunes, get them open chords down, i struggled at first, but once u got the simple ones down, the rest are mainly easy...plus u can make stuff up easily with open chords


Posted by Dj Dissent on Feb-19-2005 14:24:

quote:
Originally posted by sym
Although, girls seem to get nuts if you can play what's my age again....


I can play it on my 5 string bass




that was me 4 years ago befroe I got into EDM


Posted by e*motion on Feb-19-2005 15:07:

wankers I say!!


Posted by Boomer187 on Feb-19-2005 15:42:

I always suggest running through scales all the time. It'll build up some dexterity in your fingers and get ya used to playing. then learn some theory and some chords.

Its not the devil to learn songs, I mean you can so then you have practice playing an actual song, but learn the whole song....I know a ton o people that can play parts of songs, but not a whole song.


heh, my brother gives guitar lessons and the first day he asks, do you wanna learn to play other peoples songs or do you wanna learn how to play guitar? its sad how many people pick the former.


Posted by Mr. Pink on Feb-19-2005 16:26:

Rasta

ive been playing guitar for a little over 6yrs now.

love it

i mostly play alternative, and reggae.


Posted by DjDeComp on Feb-19-2005 18:55:

get any guitar and then get a Line Pod 6, it emulates pretty much every amp and effect ever made


Posted by chillsonic on Feb-19-2005 19:13:

Line 6 POD or a Johnson J-Station will give you the sounds you need. i don't recommend guitars that come in beginner packs (mini-amp/guitar) such as squires, because the the parts in them aren't too good and they won't last very long.


Posted by enferno on Feb-19-2005 19:38:

i sell joo meh geetahr no?

and don't get the POD. the pod sux my nuts. IF you're going to get a pod, get the PODxt at least.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Feb-19-2005 22:23:

i'm surprised how many people on the boards play the guitar. i also wouldn't recommend the line6, it sounds too... artificial.


Posted by Yan on Feb-20-2005 04:30:

I'm actually planning to go purchase a guitar tomorrow, myself.

Can anyone tell me if this is worth buying? I know Gibson is a good company...

http://www.zzounds.com/item--EPILPSPIIPPEB?trk=smx


Posted by trewqy on Feb-20-2005 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i'm surprised how many people on the boards play the guitar. i also wouldn't recommend the line6, it sounds too... artificial.


I think 90% of guys our generation have played the guitar at some stage of their life.

I mean, for me, i did grow up listening nothing but rock n roll, alternative, metal..

I regret selling my 2 guitars though...always wanted to learn how to play flamenco


Posted by enferno on Feb-20-2005 06:10:

the only POD worth having if you really want one is the PODxt. I own one in my studio, sounds alright, takes a shit load of tweaking though, but you can get fairly decent results. all the other POD's just totally blow goats


Posted by flavdave on Feb-20-2005 08:24:

I've been playing guitar for over seven years. I started out with a Strat copy (it was an Epiphone, but it is similar to the Squire you are looking at). My advice is to look for a better guitar than that for your first guitar. The reason being is that those guitars often get out of tune and it is very discouraging. Try looking for a used Strat or used Tele. I have a 50's Tele re-issue and it is my absolute favorite guitar. I bought it used for less than $500 three or four years ago, so I am pretty happy with it.

My other piece of advice is to take guitar lessons. Don't get lessons from one of your friends. Go to your local guitar store and sign up for weekly lessons. It is definitely worth it. I probably would've given up the guitar if I had not taken lessons.


Posted by PersianMafia on Feb-20-2005 09:21:

Meh, lessons are only good if you aren't a good self-learner. In this day and age, guitar notes are useless, unless you plan on playing other peoples work. In my opinion, the ultimate goal of playing the guitar is composing your own songs/riffs etc. Start with learning the basic chords and understand how the chords are each constructed. Use online sources such as www.looknohands.com or buy a chord book from your local music store. Once you've mastered basic open chords then try barring them across the fret board. This is very tricky, and many people never truly learn to do this properly. However, once you do master them, boy do they sound better than open chords! Try to learn some really unorthodox chords. They may be difficult to remember and position, but when time comes to compose, they sound real neat.

If you still haven't learned how to strum properly after learning chords, learn how to! Strumming is what makes a chord if you ask me. DO NOT STRUM WITH THE PALM OF YOUR THUMB! Learn how to strum with/without a pick. Learn to keep a rhythm. Picking is another technique you must master. Learn to properly pick. Not the two-finger pick. Grabbing a guitar lessons book on picking could be useful.

Now that you know chords, chord construction, strumming and picking, you can download almost any guitar tab and play it with ease. Doing the aforementioned things, will allow you to pick up tabs sooo much more easier, than just learning tabs before you've learned anything else.

Now, this is where most poeple end their guitaring adventure. But the fun just starts now. SCALES! Scales are fundamental in guitar. Mastering the scales and understanding how riffs are made can make you incredibly amazing. Once you've learned the fundamental scales of guitar, try "improv"ing on them and try playing them in different patterns, adding bends, fast tapping (is that what they call it) etc. If you can learn how to improve well on scales, then you can begin your soloing career. Pick up some Jimi Hendrix, Slash, etc tabs and learn some of their genius solos. Get some pointers from those guys. Then record countless different rhythms on your computer/tape or whatever, then play the rhythms and just solo over them, add licks, try different stuff, the fun is endless. Oh, one more thing, you have to learn keys and understand that your improv scale must be in the right key of the chord progression. Picking the key in a song isn't very difficult, and is GENERALLY either the first or last chord. But that is NOT always true.

Then use your knownledge of chords, come up with a good chord pattern. Adding a picking scheme to those chords. Create a couple of riffs inbetween the chords if you like. Compose a solo from the scales you learned. And voila you are a guitar player that has just composed a song.

Now its not that easy. Learning all the stuff I've talked about takes years, or decades for some people. But get learning!


Posted by OurManFlint on Feb-20-2005 09:33:

Bass Guitar is so mach cooler....


Posted by Omega_Blue on Feb-20-2005 09:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
I'm actually planning to go purchase a guitar tomorrow, myself.

Can anyone tell me if this is worth buying? I know Gibson is a good company...

http://www.zzounds.com/item--EPILPSPIIPPEB?trk=smx



this isn't a gibson. it's an epiphone, which from my understanding is just a les paul licensed offshoot that make affordable alternatives to the gibson counterparts. the price says it all - a gibson les paul - 1400 bucks or so. an epiphone les paul - 600.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-20-2005 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by OurManFlint
Bass Guitar is so mach cooler....


pfft...anyone can play bass.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Feb-20-2005 21:18:

Re: Anyone here play guitar?

quote:
Originally posted by sym
I'm thinking about trying to learn guitar. I've never learned any instrument in my life, and was just wondering if anyone has an suggestions. I am interested in buyin an electric guitar and amp nothing too expensive. I was looking into the Fender Squire series. Any suggestions?


been playen guitar for 8 years. best thing to do is print out some tablature

Pick your fav tune & just hammer away at it d00d. Practice the shit out of your fingers.

http://www.thetabworld.com/

http://www.guitarnotes.com/tabs/

classic guitar:

http://www.wussu.com/classtab/


Posted by beats and beeps on Feb-20-2005 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by PersianMafia
In this day and age, guitar notes are useless, unless you plan on playing other peoples work. In my opinion, the ultimate goal of playing the guitar is composing your own songs/riffs etc.

How the fuck do you expect somebody to write music, without knowing how to read it.


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