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Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 19:57:

Exclamation VERY PISSED about Armin not playing on the main stage @ Ultra!!

I don't know if anyone knew this, I sure as hell didn't and was hoping that he'd be staged main...I am very pissed because now I'm sure it's going to interfere with a big performance like Ti�sto or PvD...these assholes must not know who Armin is...this sucks. But good news is Edgar V on the main stage!! wooot. I don't know how accurate this info is though.

announced stages:

SATURDAY MARCH 26
BAYFRONT PARK . DOWNTOWN MIAMI
11 AM - 12 MIDNIGHT


Ampitheater

Paul Van Dyk
Tiesto (2 Hour Set)
Paul Oakenfold
Ferry Corsten
Junkie XL
Christopher Lawerence
Kevens
Infected Mushroom
Skribble
Donald Glaude
Nu NRG
Edgar V.


Soundstage

Moby
RITM (RABBIT IN THE MOON)
The Crystal Method
Armin Van Buuren
Sander Kleinenberg
Infusion
Pete Tong
Bad Boy Bill
Lee Burridge
Planet B
Crooklyn Clan


Subliminal Sessions

Erick Morillo
Layo & Bushwacka
Darren Emerson
Audio Bulleys
DJ Dan
Harry Romero
Jose Nunez
Jorge Jaramillo


Future Sound Of Breaks

BT Live
Hybrid
Icey
Jackal & Hyde vs Dynamix II
Freq Nasty
Monk
Baby Anne
Simply Jeff
Deekline & Wizard
Storm & Trevor Rockwell
K-Swing
Kuad Sound System aka Merlyn vs. Hydraulix
Johnny Dangerously
Madame Mercury
Inner Realm LIVE
DBJ
Eric Berretta
Polyphonix LIVE
Crash Berlin
B-Side


DJ Breaktrough Tent hosted by New Times

Silence Repellent LIVE
Tempesta
Anonymous Phantomz aka Supernaut & Duchess
Danny Bled
Duane Cedric
Private Ryan
DJ Santana
DJ Pat Pat
Danny Stern
The Audit vs. DJ Neglect
DJ Steele
Theo
Graviton Girl
Hirofumi Ohta
Michael Louis
Daniel Gallagher
Psylensa & Spark 1
Bea
Mondo
Rick V


UltraBeach BPM VIP

Sandra Collins
Junior Sanchez
Palash
Davic Waxman
Boris
DJ Dero
Kaskade
100% ISIS
T-Love (Amnesia Ibiza)
David Ireland
DJ Lego
Deepak Sharma
Nick James
Rob Simas
Clayton Steele sks Fella
Shiva
Kinesis
DJ Jimmie Page
J LUV
Dennis Sebayan
Jimmy Joslin
Tony Estrada
Rafy Nieves


ECO Village

Parantula 3in1 Sounds
Nelly G. of DMP
8 ON
Galaxy Girl LIVE
Zen1 LIVE w. RJay & Sweet Marie
DJ S and Bongo Mike
KOS 2x4 Xavier
Digital Lifestyle LIVE
Flight 4twenty LIVE
DJ Eddie Pabon
Sean Drake
DJ Major
Jennifer Levi
JMC Feat. Rachee D
Ray Jr.
Johnny A
Agape Live
Noah!
Danny Knuckles and Jammer


Carl Cox and Friends Global Arena

Carl Cox (3 hour set)
Danny Howells
Josh Wink
Christian Smith
Yousef
Mark Lewis


Danny Tenaglia

Danny Tenaglia (3 hour set)
Cue
Demi
Steve Lawler
Timo Maas


Florida All Stars

David Padilla
Seasunz AKA the sea & the sun
RioTGeaR
DJ Stingray
Devine & EmilyPLAY LIVE
Don L
The Specialists: Bri-Tai & Profyle
Roxxia
Brian Schack
DPX LIVE
Jenny Worth
Cato K
Big Boy
DJ Roe vs. Baby Sean
DJ Medley
DJ Barry Bennett
L P
Lindy De Columbi
Motion and Remedy
DJ ED
Code Blue
Lucho
Dtox
DJ Dakota
DJ Gilligan
D-Luna
Assembly Station
Special K & MC Motive


Contagious Music DnB Arena

Goldie
Grooverider
Fabio
DJ Rap
DJ Craze
Adam F
Photek
Shy FX
DJ Fresh
Planet of The Drums: Dara, AK1200, Dieselboy, MC Messinian
SS
Pendulum
Baron
Hive
DB
Influx Datum
Swift
Baily
Total Science
Teebee
JuJu
Reid Speed
Empress

MC's
Armanni
Sharpness
Chickaboo
Question Mark
Verse
Biggie
Navigator Illy MC


Posted by bobba lou on Mar-10-2005 20:07:

this is due to the fact that it is his first time out @ ultra. First timers have to start somewhere.

give it some time next year he will be there.

that or turn 21 soon and see him at his label party.




Posted by LiquidX on Mar-10-2005 20:08:

HeH.. well to help you out, yeah there's like a couple of threads with this line ups and stages...

My conclusion of the why Armin van Buuren was not posted on the Main Stage... there's plenty of reasons actually.

1-) It is true that Armin is perhaps one of the more afluent trance DJ's in the world, and as well producers.. he somehow is not as known down here in South Florida, in other words, he's not so much in deman .. most of the people know more about PvD, Ferry, Tiesto, Mauro etc etc.. this is Armin's First time in Ultra Fest ( and perhaps the first big event in the America's ) .. Armin does recieve a NICE intro in the new Ultra Flyer, which makes u think of the why was he placed there instead of Mainstage... Ultra claims this is the time for Armin to showcase and introduce himself into the trance loyalists of the US and FL and be known .. so he better get those energy socks in.

2-) Ferry was on Ultra stage last year as well.. crowd seemed to liked him, so my guess is that this year round he's doing Mainstage.. everyone else on the Mainstage has been there allready, except for Nu-nrg.... which Ampitheater is good for a Live act like that..

I love Armin, but Ultra Soundstage is mad sweet as well, Sasha & Digweed did that 2 years in a row ( and this are BIG TIME names ) .. and packed the place..

3-) I know Skribbles and Kevens are like WTF artist on Ampitheater, but this is an American EDM festival, and, yeah.. we seem to be on the quality bubble of EDM, the rest of US knows this Dj's, are very mainstream, or atract the other sides of EDM.. who knows, but hopefully armin will play out on Ampi next year...

IM also very pleased to see EdgarV back into Ultra Mainstage.. I havent seen him there since Ultra 3.. when he opened up for Oakey.. God Edgar Threw some nasty Hard trance.. he actually packed the place for Oakey I remember .. good memories!


Posted by rounder19 on Mar-10-2005 20:11:

i was informed of that too......the fluffmaster gets no respect in miami or from ultra. at least they asked him to play this year.


oh well, im skipping the short set ravefest for picottos mind control


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
HeH.. well to help you out, yeah there's like a couple of threads with this line ups and stages...

My conclusion of the why Armin van Buuren was not posted on the Main Stage... there's plenty of reasons actually.

1-) It is true that Armin is perhaps one of the more afluent trance DJ's in the world, and as well producers.. he somehow is not as known down here in South Florida, in other words, he's not so much in deman .. most of the people know more about PvD, Ferry, Tiesto, Mauro etc etc.. this is Armin's First time in Ultra Fest ( and perhaps the first big event in the America's ) .. Armin does recieve a NICE intro in the new Ultra Flyer, which makes u think of the why was he placed there instead of Mainstage... Ultra claims this is the time for Armin to showcase and introduce himself into the trance loyalists of the US and FL and be known .. so he better get those energy socks in.

2-) Ferry was on Ultra stage last year as well.. crowd seemed to liked him, so my guess is that this year round he's doing Mainstage.. everyone else on the Mainstage has been there allready, except for Nu-nrg.... which Ampitheater is good for a Live act like that..

I love Armin, but Ultra Soundstage is mad sweet as well, Sasha & Digweed did that 2 years in a row ( and this are BIG TIME names ) .. and packed the place..

3-) I know Skribbles and Kevens are like WTF artist on Ampitheater, but this is an American EDM festival, and, yeah.. we seem to be on the quality bubble of EDM, the rest of US knows this Dj's, are very mainstream, or atract the other sides of EDM.. who knows, but hopefully armin will play out on Ampi next year...

IM also very pleased to see EdgarV back into Ultra Mainstage.. I havent seen him there since Ultra 3.. when he opened up for Oakey.. God Edgar Threw some nasty Hard trance.. he actually packed the place for Oakey I remember .. good memories!


yeah I see where you're coming from but it sucks because I know for sure it's going to interfere with someone else. grrr oh well for me it'll be Armin > anyone. I won't miss it for the world! And yes it's awesome that Edgar will be main omg I think I'll enjoy his set best...I love me some mr. v!!! saw him at last years Ultra on the soundstage! he's moved up woohoo.

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
this is due to the fact that it is his first time out @ ultra. First timers have to start somewhere.

give it some time next year he will be there.

that or turn 21 soon and see him at his label party.






Posted by UFpike on Mar-10-2005 20:16:

WTF is Moby still doing performing? I thought he got AIDS or something.


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-10-2005 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by rounder19
i was informed of that too......the fluffmaster gets no respect in miami or from ultra. at least they asked him to play this year.


oh well, im skipping the short set ravefest for picottos mind control


The DJ MAG rank I guess.


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by rounder19
i was informed of that too......the fluffmaster gets no respect in miami or from ultra. at least they asked him to play this year.


oh well, im skipping the short set ravefest for picottos mind control


yeah I agree with them finally asking him to play...about time. I'd skip ultra if I were 21 and could see him at spin but unfortunately us kiddies don't have much choice or options!

Have fun picotto rocks it!


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
The DJ MAG rank I guess.


my exact thoughts...the ONLY reason they asked him to play. he's #3 and they look at that shit.


Posted by mdamon7278 on Mar-10-2005 20:33:

To be honest, im still debating on going to ultra and listening to 45 min sets, too much into too little, Im already going to see armin and markus back to back which I heard sets will be like 2 1/2 to 3 hrs a DJ, sooooooooooooooo who knows about ultra


Posted by el.maestro on Mar-10-2005 20:44:

There�s too much talent for one day. Ultra should be 2 days (48 hours strait!) with fewer stages.


Posted by rounder19 on Mar-10-2005 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
To be honest, im still debating on going to ultra and listening to 45 min sets, too much into too little


exactly why im skipping, one dj extended club set > 1 million djs playing 45 mins


Posted by kiteless on Mar-10-2005 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
To be honest, im still debating on going to ultra and listening to 45 min sets, too much into too little, Im already going to see armin and markus back to back which I heard sets will be like 2 1/2 to 3 hrs a DJ, sooooooooooooooo who knows about ultra
Not sure why people keep saying this...PVD, Armin, and the other big names will play for at least an hour and a half, Tiesto is two hours, and Cox and Danny are three hours. Yes I'd love longer sets too, but 1.5 hours is way more than 45 minutes.


Posted by mdamon7278 on Mar-10-2005 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by rounder19
exactly why im skipping, one dj extended club set > 1 million djs playing 45 mins


So what are we gonna do, cause if any peeps are skipping ultra Im down for going or doing something


Posted by mdamon7278 on Mar-10-2005 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by kiteless
Not sure why people keep saying this...PVD, Armin, and the other big names will play for at least an hour and a half, Tiesto is two hours, and Cox and Danny are three hours. Yes I'd love longer sets too, but 1.5 hours is way more than 45 minutes.


What abouot NU NRG, what about the others that people go to see and dont have 1 1/2 sets, its just stupid to have all those in such a short time, but yeah ultra needs to be two DJ's, but after this year, who knows, maybe ultra shouldnt happen, better planning and scheduling so everyone can have a equal set time


Posted by kelly923 on Mar-10-2005 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
So what are we gonna do, cause if any peeps are skipping ultra Im down for going or doing something


no ultra for me


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-10-2005 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by kelly923
no ultra for me
WTF!!!!

3 hours of carl cox. how can u say no.


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-10-2005 22:07:

mmmm well it's all about taste I guess. There's a difference on attending a Club to an outdoor event. DJ's tend to play differently as well... I usually love the Outdoor events atmosphere, and thats probably why people tend to attend this, is not so much about HOW long a DJ plays. Ofcourse is always sweet to hear a DJ play for a # of hours, but for that you can go to a club.. this is a Festival with a Marathong of DJ's.. look @ around the world festivals.. thye are all about the same.. perhaps difference is that they tend to end later.. but they too have a marathong of DJ"s with Shorter sets.. the sets @ Ultra are usually 1 hour.. sometimes 1:30 mins.. Tiesto will be given 2 hours ..... and I dont think is about age either.. an Outdoor event is unique for what it is, the vibe and everything that makes it.. partying outside is a whole different thing then partyig inside in a crambed packed atmosphere. People complain the lack more DJ's in the line up.. others Complain theres too many DJ's for such shorter time.. Nothing ever pleases nobody huh.


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
mmmm well it's all about taste I guess. There's a difference on attending a Club to an outdoor event. DJ's tend to play differently as well... I usually love the Outdoor events atmosphere, and thats probably why people tend to attend this, is not so much about HOW long a DJ plays. Ofcourse is always sweet to hear a DJ play for a # of hours, but for that you can go to a club.. this is a Festival with a Marathong of DJ's.. look @ around the world festivals.. thye are all about the same.. perhaps difference is that they tend to end later.. but they too have a marathong of DJ"s with Shorter sets.. the sets @ Ultra are usually 1 hour.. sometimes 1:30 mins.. Tiesto will be given 2 hours ..... and I dont think is about age either.. an Outdoor event is unique for what it is, the vibe and everything that makes it.. partying outside is a whole different thing then partyig inside in a crambed packed atmosphere. People complain the lack more DJ's in the line up.. others Complain theres too many DJ's for such shorter time.. Nothing ever pleases nobody huh.


I beg to differ...I think their club sets pwn and blow up the place and they tend to play mediocre sets at outdoor events. Well at least for PvD...he killed at Space last WMC the day before Ultra and then at Ultra I was like EH. the only thing I liked about his set was his ENCORE TRACK! omg that owned. Then again Ti�sto's last year set at Ultra was AMAZING and then people also say he was @ Space. I do agree with it being crap they only spin for like 1 hour...EWL.


Posted by mdamon7278 on Mar-10-2005 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by FallingMoon
I beg to differ...I think their club sets pwn and blow up the place and they tend to play mediocre sets at outdoor events. Well at least for PvD...he killed at Space last WMC the day before Ultra and then at Ultra I was like EH. the only thing I liked about his set was his ENCORE TRACK! omg that owned. Then again Ti�sto's last year set at Ultra was AMAZING and then people also say he was @ Space. I do agree with it being crap they only spin for like 1 hour...EWL.



WEll when u are all grown up and out of the sandbox u will see the difference, but for now u are up shits creek


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
WTF!!!!

3 hours of carl cox. how can u say no.


no.

lol I keed.

and I REPEAT, I AM KIDDING PLEASE NO FLAMMING. Kthnx.



I wonder what time Ti�sto will go on this year since he is spinning 2 hours? hmmmmm.


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
WEll when u are all grown up and out of the sandbox u will see the difference, but for now u are up shits creek


agreed. 1 more year!


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-10-2005 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by FallingMoon
I beg to differ...I think their club sets pwn and blow up the place and they tend to play mediocre sets at outdoor events. Well at least for PvD...he killed at Space last WMC the day before Ultra and then at Ultra I was like EH. the only thing I liked about his set was his ENCORE TRACK! omg that owned. Then again Ti�sto's last year set at Ultra was AMAZING and then people also say he was @ Space. I do agree with it being crap they only spin for like 1 hour...EWL.


mmm well is all bout taste I guess. DJ's play for a different vibe in outdoors.. I find the outdoors more banging, more my style.. in clubs they take their time and take you wherever the DJ wants to take you... for example, I find that PvD plays better sets on the outdoors, and sets Ive heard from Armin in Outdoors.. to me are just way more impressive.. and I could go on and on with every DJ, although there's always good exceptions. Some DJ"s play different in different atmospheres.. like Oakenfold, that guy from Ultra 3 to 5 played just awesome sets, where as I also saw through that same time period mediocre sets played inside Clubs..


Posted by FallingMoon on Mar-10-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
mmm well is all bout taste I guess. DJ's play for a different vibe in outdoors.. I find the outdoors more banging, more my style.. in clubs they take their time and take you wherever the DJ wants to take you... for example, I find that PvD plays better sets on the outdoors, and sets Ive heard from Armin in Outdoors.. to me are just way more impressive.. and I could go on and on with every DJ, although there's always good exceptions. Some DJ"s play different in different atmospheres.. like Oakenfold, that guy from Ultra 3 to 5 played just awesome sets, where as I also saw through that same time period mediocre sets played inside Clubs..


I prefer outdoor events because damn you could actually breathe and you have room to dance and enjoy yourself and I just wish they would spin longer...I don't think they play the best sets but then again it could be because they only have like 1 hour and you know a DJ doesn't really get into his set till after a couple of tracks to warm up...I enjoy Ultra because the vibe of being outside is cool.


Posted by TheKidsWantTechno on Mar-10-2005 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by FallingMoon
I prefer outdoor events because damn you could actually breathe and you have room to dance and enjoy yourself and I just wish they would spin longer...I don't think they play the best sets but then again it could be because they only have like 1 hour and you know a DJ doesn't really get into his set till after a couple of tracks to warm up...I enjoy Ultra because the vibe of being outside is cool.


yup, that's why i love it too

we all (or most of us) get to see a fair share of good club nights throughout the year, but how often can you get together with 75000 other crazy people and groove out to some good music in the beautiful miami weather??


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