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Posted by Trancer-X on Mar-22-2005 04:44:

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Biometric Passports Set to Take Flight

Monday, March 21st, 2005
Technology - PC World

Erin Biba, Medill News Service


It's official. Your passport is going high-tech.


Biometric passports have made it out of the discussion and testing phase. The State Department's Office of Passport Policy, Planning, and Advisory Services recently announced that it is ready to begin issuing biometric passports.

These passports, which feature an RFID chip, will bring about speedier and more secure entry into and exit from the United States, the government says. However, critics say the technology behind the passports is flawed and puts your personal privacy at stake.
The New National ID

According to the State Department's proposed implementation rule, the agency plans to issue the first passport carrying an RFID chip by mid-2005.

That chip includes all the personal data found on the information page of today's passports. It also contains a biometric component--a digital facial image.

Within a year, all passports issued in the U.S. will feature this technology.

The new passports will comply with requirements set forth by the International Civil Aviation Organization. In 2003 that group adopted a global plan for the implementation of machine-readable passports containing biometric information for its 188 member countries, the United States included.

Your New Passport

The RFID chip will contain a chip identification number (printed on the chip when it is manufactured) and a digital signature (a series of numbers assigned to the chip when the passport is issued). The two numbers will be stored in a central government database along with the personal information contained on the information page.

Once the chip is printed, the information stored on it cannot be altered. Because of this, the Department of State has decided to eliminate today's passport amendments: Going forward, if your information changes, you'll need a new passport.

Normally you have to pay a fee to receive a new passport, but under the new system you'll have one year from when your information changes to apply for a new passport free of charge. That's key, as the price of passports will go up to cover the cost of the new technology. Congress has authorized a $12 surcharge to all new passports, which brings the cost of new 10-year passports from $85 to $97.
Protecting Your Information

The State Department says that information contained in the passport chip will not be encrypted because it's no different from that viewable on the information page. Plus, it says, encrypted data takes longer to read and requires more complicated technology, which makes it difficult to coordinate with other nations.

One of the primary concerns with using RFID chips in the new passports is that the chips can be read from a distance. That means that, potentially, someone with the proper equipment could access the data on your passport if they are physically close enough.

How close is in question. Some privacy experts allege that the RFID chips can be read from as far away as 30 to 65 feet, while government officials say it can be read only in close proximity. The State Department will require all chip readers to be electronically shielded so that electronic signals sending and receiving information will not be transmitted beyond the reader. Additionally, each passport will contain an anti-skimming feature designed to prevent identity thieves from activating and reading the chip from a distance, they say.

The State Department may be trying to protect your privacy, but public interest groups like the Electronic Privacy Information Center say the technology itself is a poor choice.

"Anybody with a little bit of money can read the passports at a distance without getting your consent," says EPIC Technology Fellow R.P. Ruiz. "As a citizen, I would have serious doubts about carrying a U.S. passport. I would feel my government is placing me at unnecessary undue risk."

Ruiz says RFID technology is a scary choice when it comes to electronic identification. "What does being readable from a distance have to do with authenticating a person's identity?" he says. "Why the heck is this not a contact card?"

More Secure?

A contact card, which would be readable by placing a passport or card through a slot (like a credit card), Ruiz says, would significantly reduce the risk of identity theft. RFID "is great technology for tracking cattle; it's absolutely horrible technology for tracking people.


"People who want to read it will [and will do so] at a very safe distance," he says. He also says this type of technology makes it easy to "surreptitiously track anyone's comings and goings. It makes it very easy to target people in public places."

Another area of concern for Ruiz: State Department rules state that if your new passport's electronic chip is damaged or stops working you don't have to replace it. The agency reasons that since that same information resides on the data page of the passport, there's no need to replace a damaged chip.

Ruiz finds that policy puzzling. "If that component is broken," he says, "it's no more secure than what we have now."

If you're concerned about the security of the upcoming passports, Ruiz offers this advice: "Get your paper copy right now before they go electronic."

Passports are valid for a long time, he notes. "You can have five to ten years for [the State Department] to see the error of their way and do it right later," he says.



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Posted by zig on Mar-22-2005 16:41:

I cant wait ......another good reason not to travel to the US.......anyway less than 20% of Americans have passports and probably a good percentage of these are either out of date or have never been used.............


Posted by ali92 on Mar-24-2005 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by zig
I cant wait ......another good reason not to travel to the US.......anyway less than 20% of Americans have passports and probably a good percentage of these are either out of date or have never been used.............
I thought it was around 3 %. Well, I better get mine soon before they go with this RFID BS. I don't like the idea of this. Probably a data miner's gold mine. :-(


Posted by zig on Mar-25-2005 00:17:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
I thought it was around 3 %. Well, I better get mine soon before they go with this RFID BS. I don't like the idea of this. Probably a data miner's gold mine. :-(


Probably a good idea to get it soon.....ive heard some talk of this in Europe......that Europeans will have to have these passports eventually to travel to the US,or they wont be allowed in.....so we wont have a choice.....

I did a little bit of research on the 20% figure....but its a hard one to pin down from information on the web...but i think 15-20% is probably accurate.....personally i allways thought it was a lot lower....apparently there has been a nearly doubling of applications for passports in the last ten years....but again this is hard to pin down...have the appliications been from American citizens or from people trying to get into the US......


Posted by St_Andrew on Mar-25-2005 00:29:

If the information is not encrypted, wouldnt it be really easy to reprogramme your chip!?


Posted by Yoepus on Mar-25-2005 02:22:

Re: Biometric Passports Set to Take Flight

This:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X

That chip includes all the personal data found on the information page of today's passports. It also contains a biometric component--a digital facial image.


Contradicts this:

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The RFID chip will contain a chip identification number (printed on the chip when it is manufactured) and a digital signature (a series of numbers assigned to the chip when the passport is issued). The two numbers will be stored in a central government database along with the personal information contained on the information page.



If the first is true - that is just dumb and not secure.

If the second is true - you only have an ID (like the passport number) stored/emitted by the RFID chip. The personal information is contained in a centralized database. You then match the ID on the RFID chip with the ID in the central database to get the information on the passport holder.
This this is secure, and is no more or less safe then current technology today and I don't see the fuss.

From this article I can not make heads or tails of what exactly is on the chip. If its just two pairs of numbers, there is no privacy threat.


Posted by ali92 on Mar-25-2005 03:19:

Re: Re: Biometric Passports Set to Take Flight

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
This:



Contradicts this:




If the first is true - that is just dumb and not secure.

If the second is true - you only have an ID (like the passport number) stored/emitted by the RFID chip. The personal information is contained in a centralized database. You then match the ID on the RFID chip with the ID in the central database to get the information on the passport holder.
This this is secure, and is no more or less safe then current technology today and I don't see the fuss.

From this article I can not make heads or tails of what exactly is on the chip. If its just two pairs of numbers, there is no privacy threat.


* sighs. It's never just what they say. You bet there will be more 'reserved' space on that chip for future expansion. There are tiny chips that can hold a full 32 or 64 MB right on the tip of your smallest finger now. That's a lot if it's plain text. I'd be looking out if I were you. Mid-2005 sounds scarey too, as that's exactly when I'm to leave here (1 June 2005). I hope I'm not one of the 1st to get the new passport. I'd rather be one of the last to get the old (current) one.


Posted by Dervish on Mar-25-2005 05:18:

LOL What a big fuss about nothing.

1) The data is exactly the same as is on the actual passport.

2) The data will be unreadable.

N.B. Yes you could probebly get the card to send the data, but it'd be encrypted to fuck. And you need to "resonably" close to get the (encrypted and unuseable) data especially a RFID tag which has a picture in it. Think about it the RF tag gets it's power via coil induction (distance is a big, big deal) and to transmit that much data you'd need alot of power.

Only possible problem is if they start to not observe the same level of checks on the pass itself. Which can (unlike most things) be legislated against.

Also it makes passports much harder to fake (you'd need to know the encryption key(s) for the RF chips.... not going to happen), also it makes tracking everyone much easier. Again complacency is the only possible probeblem.

Some of you might be thinking ahh but why can't you spoof the reader by monitoring the (say a stolen passport, which by the way could now be disabled, that is the id marked as nicked, rather than just not checked) tags responce. But the responce of the tag is a function of the reader power input, which is random and it knows what it's looking to get back, when it doesn't your fucked.


Posted by St_Andrew on Mar-26-2005 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
LOL What a big fuss about nothing.

1) The data is exactly the same as is on the actual passport.

2) The data will be unreadable.

N.B. Yes you could probebly get the card to send the data, but it'd be encrypted to fuck. And you need to "resonably" close to get the (encrypted and unuseable) data especially a RFID tag which has a picture in it. Think about it the RF tag gets it's power via coil induction (distance is a big, big deal) and to transmit that much data you'd need alot of power.

Only possible problem is if they start to not observe the same level of checks on the pass itself. Which can (unlike most things) be legislated against.

Also it makes passports much harder to fake (you'd need to know the encryption key(s) for the RF chips.... not going to happen), also it makes tracking everyone much easier. Again complacency is the only possible probeblem.

Some of you might be thinking ahh but why can't you spoof the reader by monitoring the (say a stolen passport, which by the way could now be disabled, that is the id marked as nicked, rather than just not checked) tags responce. But the responce of the tag is a function of the reader power input, which is random and it knows what it's looking to get back, when it doesn't your fucked.


i agree there is a big fuss over nothing, but the article stated that there will be no encryption, which is kinda weird :S


Posted by ali92 on Mar-26-2005 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
i agree there is a big fuss over nothing, but the article stated that there will be no encryption, which is kinda weird :S
Big fuss over nothing when the data isn't even _encrypted_?


Posted by St_Andrew on Mar-26-2005 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
Big fuss over nothing when the data isn't even _encrypted_?


It's not really any private information in your passport. Name, date of birth, city of birth, etc, "OMG THEY KNOW MY BIRTHDAY"... i couldnt care less if someone got that infortmation, and the information is in an even more easily readable format right now, on a paper in your passport!


Posted by ogvh5150 on Mar-27-2005 04:22:

Like Yoepus is implying, there does seem to be an avenue of abuse based on the information in the media about it.

The next step after rfid passports would be subdermally implanted chips. Even that would be immune to abuse. Only the location of the information stored has passed from being carried in inorganic material to organic. All else would be the same.


Posted by Yoepus on Mar-27-2005 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
It's not really any private information in your passport. Name, date of birth, city of birth, etc, "OMG THEY KNOW MY BIRTHDAY"... i couldnt care less if someone got that infortmation, and the information is in an even more easily readable format right now, on a paper in your passport!


The fact that your passport has an RFID chip allows anyone with a scanner in the region to find you (to know the RFID chip exists). The person searching will not necessarily know its you, but will know you are a foreigner (who else carries passports), that knowledge alone in and of itself can compromise your security.

This gets even more dangerous if RFIDs passport numbers aren't randomized across nationalities - i.e. if someone using an active scan can pick up only American or Swedish nationalities in 100ft radius.

Say I'm a christian fundamental terrorist, I am against Swedish people because they have sex with animals. I go to Time Square, wait 10 seconds, find a Swedish man or women, abduct them, and then kill them to make the point that having sex with animals is bad.



Ok more likely: Terrorist/Kidnappers wait for a likely target in a third world country. They want a person from a wealthy or politically important country to get their money/political message across. RFIDs make it easy.

This becomes increasingly more easy and very dangerous if an individual's identity is disclosed (Say Bill Gates travels to Colombia incognito and forgets to throw away his passport).

So perhaps Joe Sweden doesn't care. But anyone with an unpopular nationality or a nice stash in the bank account does.

I'm not critizing the system yet - as if individual's data is held in a database, and the code from the RFID that is used to reference that individual's data in the database is randomized across nationalities, there is no vunerability aside from the fact that a guy with an active scanner can know if there are tourist in the neighborhood.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Mar-27-2005 13:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Say I'm a christian fundamental terrorist


Funny but not quite right.

google cache of www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/15/1089694491783.html
quote:

Two Mossad spies jailed in New Zealand
By Vernon Small and Michael Pelly
July 16, 2004

Australia is to step up its investigation of a suspected Israeli spy ring following the imprisonment of two Mossad agents in New Zealand yesterday for passport fraud.

One of the jailed spies, Eli Cara, 50, spent a significant amount of time in Australia and a house he used in Turramurra was raided shortly before his arrest in Auckland in March. Australian authorities had been told two other men had slipped the net in New Zealand, but the house was deserted.

"It was quite clear that people had left in a fair hurry," a spokesman for the Attorney-General, Philip Ruddock, said last night. He said investigations into suspected Mossad spies on Australian soil were continuing.

New Zealand's Prime Minister, Helen Clark, said she would reduce contact with Israel and slated it for its refusal to apologise or explain the actions of the two jailed men.

Cara and Uriel Kelman, 31, will be deported to Israel after serving their six-month sentence for attempting to obtain a passport in the name of an Auckland cerebral palsy sufferer. They have also been ordered to pay $50,000 each to a cerebral palsy charity.

New Zealand police are still looking for the man who the spies named as the ringleader of their scam, Zev William Barkan. It is not clear if he was one of the men Australian police were looking for in the raid on the house in Turramurra.

Justice Judith Potter said it could be assumed a false passport would be used for criminal activity, perhaps "very serious".

The court heard that both Cara and Kelman had done compulsory service with the Israeli armed forces, were university educated and active in synagogues and communities.

Cara's lawyer, Stuart Grieve, said his client had moved to Australia four years ago after retiring from a career with the air force.

He said Cara had a travel business connected to an Israel-based agency promoting eco-tourism in Australia and New Zealand. However, a search of company and title records revealed he had no listed business interests in Sydney.

He had travelled to New Zealand 24 times in recent years for business and family holidays. The court heard that Kelman, who studied mathematics and physics, was a tireless voluntary worker who brought joy to the disabled.

Mr Grieve said the men and their families would be at risk for the rest of their lives from terrorists targeting anyone connected with Mossad.

Miss Clark said the actions of the two men had seriously strained relations with Israel.

She said New Zealand would suspend high-level visits from and to Israel. Any request for a visit by the Israeli President, Moshe Katsav, in August, in association with a proposed visit to Australia, would be declined.

The case is the first known example of foreign agents appearing in a New Zealand court since the 1985 arrest of the Rainbow Warrior bombers.


Posted by ali92 on Mar-27-2005 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Like Yoepus is implying, there does seem to be an avenue of abuse based on the information in the media about it.

The next step after rfid passports would be subdermally implanted chips. Even that would be immune to abuse. Only the location of the information stored has passed from being carried in inorganic material to organic. All else would be the same.
That's what I mean. Stuff like this is always rolled out slowly with the illusion of one purpose, but is really just a small phase of a much greater objective. I forget who from Sun Microsystems once said 'You have no privacy; Get over it.', but that's what life seems to be becoming now. One day, there may be no privacy at all.


Posted by St_Andrew on Mar-27-2005 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
The fact that your passport has an RFID chip allows anyone with a scanner in the region to find you (to know the RFID chip exists). The person searching will not necessarily know its you, but will know you are a foreigner (who else carries passports), that knowledge alone in and of itself can compromise your security.

This gets even more dangerous if RFIDs passport numbers aren't randomized across nationalities - i.e. if someone using an active scan can pick up only American or Swedish nationalities in 100ft radius.

Say I'm a christian fundamental terrorist, I am against Swedish people because they have sex with animals. I go to Time Square, wait 10 seconds, find a Swedish man or women, abduct them, and then kill them to make the point that having sex with animals is bad.



Ok more likely: Terrorist/Kidnappers wait for a likely target in a third world country. They want a person from a wealthy or politically important country to get their money/political message across. RFIDs make it easy.

This becomes increasingly more easy and very dangerous if an individual's identity is disclosed (Say Bill Gates travels to Colombia incognito and forgets to throw away his passport).

So perhaps Joe Sweden doesn't care. But anyone with an unpopular nationality or a nice stash in the bank account does.

I'm not critizing the system yet - as if individual's data is held in a database, and the code from the RFID that is used to reference that individual's data in the database is randomized across nationalities, there is no vunerability aside from the fact that a guy with an active scanner can know if there are tourist in the neighborhood.


Fair enough except for ONE thing, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ANIMAL SEX


Posted by Trancer-X on Mar-27-2005 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
One day, there may be no privacy at all.


And that day will be here much sooner than any of us realize. Figuratively speaking, the majority of us sit idly with no care or regards for when that day will come.

Of course, this passivity cannot be totally blamed on the people as a whole - over time, the majority of us have been trained to be this way.

I think weblogger Dave Taylor says it well HERE, when he talks about our "informed populace."


Posted by ogvh5150 on Mar-27-2005 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
One day, there may be no privacy at all.


That day has been here already.


Posted by ali92 on Mar-28-2005 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
That day has been here already.
He should've also said that we have no rights either, because that's what's next. :-(


Posted by ogvh5150 on Mar-28-2005 03:57:

You don't have rights either.


Posted by Trancer-X on Mar-28-2005 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
You don't have rights either.


You have the right to remain silent,
the right to an attorney...


Posted by biznology on Mar-28-2005 11:36:

the first article hit in on the head in TOO many words.

why not a fuckin card contact? it means no wifi, no bullshit...oh wait, thats what we have. the US has gotta get closer to the tariffs Russia is collecting to get international visitors or we are boned!! (via visitation price)

unnecessary, and rediculous. at least we arent getting implantations yet|


Posted by ogvh5150 on Mar-28-2005 13:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
You have the right to remain silent,
the right to an attorney...


Miranda is not going to keep you from getting charged.


Posted by Trancer-X on Mar-28-2005 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Miranda is not going to keep you from getting charged.


No, but they're still rights.

I'm trying to look on the bright side, don't spoil it for me.


Posted by zig on Mar-29-2005 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
You have the right to remain silent,
the right to an attorney...


Guantanamo.......eh maybe not....


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