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From BBC Radio 1: How to Throw a Horrible Party
How to throw a horrible party: By BBC Radio 1.
Apparently this was the first part they ever threw, because I can't imagine anyone with any experience at all would do a worse job.
First: Hire 3 yahoos to manage the line for you, who don't have a fucking clue what they're doing. Don't use a snake line or crowd management system, even though you are throwing a massive free party for thousands of people.
Force your guests to line up for over 3 hours to get in. Don't supply any food or water vendors for those in line.
Second: Allow the 3 assholes mentioned previously to only admit people who pay $20 to get into the free party. If they refuse, let them stand in line even longer while everyone who is willing to pay goes in first. (we stood in line for 3 hours 20 minutes, and only got in when the hundreds of people in line almost rioted, knocked security down and demanded to be let in... The assholes looked visibly shaken after this and let us in, because I think they understood they might be killed, people were so pissed.)
Third: Don't have any food available for a 22 hour party. Smart.
Fourth: Don't do any site prep. This includes something as simpel as taking down the set lists from the previous event that are still taped to the bars and washrooms. Avoid any effort to make it look like the party is actually planned.
Fifth: Most importantly, don't work on sound abatement or work with officials to ensure you don't get shut down at 7:00 pm. Everyone who has waited in line for 3 hours loves silence at a party...
Only moderately worse than after getting up and running again listening to Gabriel & Dresden through what sounded like a boom-box on stage because the main speakers had to be cut off.
What a fucking waste of my time.
On a positive note, Judge Jules sat down and talked to us for 30 minutes. Of course all he talked about was what a shitty party it was.
Damn, suckx to read such a bad experience! I'm sorry man. Some people just naturally have their heads up their asses.
yea -- we got to nikki beach around 5-6-ish only to find the aformentioned craziness. people were jumping fences, climbing through bushes and shrubs to get inside and ultimately paying security loads of money to let them in to a free event...
wank
Disastrous, to say the least. I didn't even bother going into Nikki, knowing how crazy it would be. Had more fun outside getting high and drunk.
we went early and had a good time. we had to wait in long line but it moved really fast.
james z was tearing the place apart before we left.
only bad note was the 53294329 sweaty shitless euro looking wankers inside.
The line was definitely moving fast when we got there. It took us about 20 minutes to get. I had a great time despite how packed it was. We ran into Mr. Pink while leaving and a group of girls chasing after Oakey. Sucks that others had a horrible experience.
in defense of radio 1, i think many of the problems with the nikki beach party were more the fault of the nikki beach club and the vendetta the miami police seem to have taken on this year to fight "noise" in one of the dirtiest, most crime ridden big cities in the usa.
it doesnt take a genius to figure out that with all the parties that were shut or in the case of nikki beach, told to lower the music to the point of a whisper, that miami do not want the winter music conference in their city anymore.
it's too bad, because i'm sure las vegas would love to take on this type of event, first because it's a popular convention spot to begin with and the clubs and bars run 24 hours.
personally for me, i thought radio 1 did a fantastic job creating a lineup that represented a wide variety of dance music that people want to hear.
-dave
How can the cops even make u to lower the music at 7pm? I dont get it! Even if you're throwing a house party here, u have til 11pm to quiet down! Miami has to sit down and look in the mirror (and look at the books) to see how much $$$ WMC brings in to their city. It attracts an international crowd of PEACEFUL partiers. If they drive it away, they'll be losing bazillions for local businesses.
Radio 1 has thrown parties there annually without such issues. Sure, at some point the line gets long if u arrive late, but it sounds like this yrs party had the highest attendance by far, judging by the sounds of the overcrowding. Definitely complaints should be directed to Nikki Beach Club's management.
Sounds like the bouncers made an unbelievable profit, at the cost of people's safety.
< Wonders if Ultra Fest had to turn down the volume today too...
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Originally posted by davedresden in defense of radio 1, i think many of the problems with the nikki beach party were more the fault of the nikki beach club and the vendetta the miami police seem to have taken on this year to fight "noise" in one of the dirtiest, most crime ridden big cities in the usa. it doesnt take a genius to figure out that with all the parties that were shut or in the case of nikki beach, told to lower the music to the point of a whisper, that miami do not want the winter music conference in their city anymore. it's too bad, because i'm sure las vegas would love to take on this type of event, first because it's a popular convention spot to begin with and the clubs and bars run 24 hours. personally for me, i thought radio 1 did a fantastic job creating a lineup that represented a wide variety of dance music that people want to hear. -dave |
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Originally posted by davedresden in defense of radio 1, i think many of the problems with the nikki beach party were more the fault of the nikki beach club and the vendetta the miami police seem to have taken on this year to fight "noise" in one of the dirtiest, most crime ridden big cities in the usa. it doesnt take a genius to figure out that with all the parties that were shut or in the case of nikki beach, told to lower the music to the point of a whisper, that miami do not want the winter music conference in their city anymore. it's too bad, because i'm sure las vegas would love to take on this type of event, first because it's a popular convention spot to begin with and the clubs and bars run 24 hours. personally for me, i thought radio 1 did a fantastic job creating a lineup that represented a wide variety of dance music that people want to hear. -dave |
vegas! vegas! vegas!
It needs to be moved to Vegas, for sure.
Radio 1 as you all know throw loads of parties all around the world year after year after year.
this to me sounds more like (as dave said) the fault of the nikki beach club organisers and general bad attitudes of the local authorities, it seems to me America in general is very prehistoric in the way they treat clubbers (like banning glowsticks in some states because (thier reason) they are drug related )
If radio 1 throw a free party, it's free, it would be those 3 bouncers who took it upon themselves to charge ppl to get in.
With any luck charges will be laid upon those three for obtaining money illegally.
If the WMC was held in the UK, it would be embraced, we are used to throwing huge events like global gathering, creamfields, homelands etc and the only party that was cancelled was Love parade UK in newcastle a couple of years ago and Radio 1 who organised that made alternative plans and still laid on an excellent party at incredibly short notice.
I'm sorry to hear about the bad time many of you experienced
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Originally posted by davedresden in defense of radio 1, i think many of the problems with the nikki beach party were more the fault of the nikki beach club and the vendetta the miami police seem to have taken on this year to fight "noise" in one of the dirtiest, most crime ridden big cities in the usa. it doesnt take a genius to figure out that with all the parties that were shut or in the case of nikki beach, told to lower the music to the point of a whisper, that miami do not want the winter music conference in their city anymore. it's too bad, because i'm sure las vegas would love to take on this type of event, first because it's a popular convention spot to begin with and the clubs and bars run 24 hours. personally for me, i thought radio 1 did a fantastic job creating a lineup that represented a wide variety of dance music that people want to hear. -dave |
it truly was the entire fault of nikki beach mgmt this year without a doubt. i was there on tuesday for amsterdam meets miami and the fucking assholes wanna charge $20 per person to sit or lay on the beds they have outside! fucking ridicilous on their part and the majority of people that actually paid that nonsense price.
something must have totally changed in mgmt cuz last year was sooooo much better and easier to get in, no bribing of the sorts whatsoever, all u did was show the guy ur ID and if ur not 21 then good bye.
i was in there for only about 20 mins and i got really upset over a stupid reason ! hahaha! i wanted a free bacardi visor hat they were giving away and i was 3 mins 2 late of getting one so i was pissed the whole 20 mins i was inside.
i dont know of other places where wmc could happen but 1 of the major problems is the mayor and the city of miami beach.. i dont understand why they have to be such assholes about the music. they know its coming, it comes every year. even at the leslie hotel party where dave was playing they made him lower the music. fyi dave, jody played like 15 mins and called it quits. whoever runs wmc should speak with the city of miami beach and have a meeting on what the rules and regulations will be for that one week.
its not like its memorial day weekend. and people who live in miami knows all about that weekend.
I'm actually kinda glad to hear I'm not the only one who bribed a bouncer to get into the shittiest event of the WMC. Misery loves company and all that
I left after twenty minutes of not being able to hear G&D. My old high school gym had better sound than that party. I hope Miami gets it's shit together before WMC moves, this is the best time of the year for the city.
Besides the overcrowdiness South Beach experienced that day, the line to the event was rediculous... and yeah, there were like a couple of black security guys in the back making deals for the under 21 to get in... or anyone else.. ppl jumping bushes, crawling under fences.. police coming @ 7 to shut down, mmm... I was about to pay the 20 but it was not worth it to listen to whispering music
my thoughts about all this are:
1. WHY DID THEY PUT A FENCE AROUND NIKKI BEACH??????
-- i went late thinkin i was going to enter thru the beach, and boom cops are there telling people to move away from the beach (which is public property! WTF!!!) I JUMPED THE FENCE!!
2. SOUND WAS THE WORST EVER.
-- music stoped every 15 minutes. that sucked. There was a shortage of speakers and sound system.
3. BEER WAS NOT SERVED COLD.
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on the positive side, the girls were amazing!
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Originally posted by wippet my thoughts about all this are: 1. WHY DID THEY PUT A FENCE AROUND NIKKI BEACH?????? -- i went late thinkin i was going to enter thru the beach, and boom cops are there telling people to move away from the beach (which is public property! WTF!!!) I JUMPED THE FENCE!! |
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Originally posted by mister ben its not like its memorial day weekend. and people who live in miami knows all about that weekend. |
Saturday's pollside event at the WMCs Host Hotel (The Wyndham) was also shut down an hour after it started... and this was an official event, produced by the organizers!
Time for Vegas!
One more thing
I know the BBC are used to throwing awesome parties. My comment was more about the fact they booked some talent and tried to let the event run itself.
You can only blame the venue so much. Good event producers are very hands on, making sure that the kinds of things that happened at their part, dont happen.
I had a good time there...
I had a good time at the BBC Radio 1 Party at Nikki Beach, you just had to go early. We made it there by around noon, only had to wait in line maybe ten minutes, and stayed until around 4:30. The only bad part was that it was hot as shit. We saw the entire Radio 1 broadcast, and left when it was over to go take a nap at the hotel before going out that night. We did see the crazy line outside when we left, but the people at the door at that point said they weren't going to let anyone else in. I think everyone outside should have just gone home, they got there too late. It was really crowded inside towards at about the point we left, I don't see why anyone would actually PAY to be let into a place so crowded! So for next year.... go early, leave early. BTW the sound was great early in the show.
I had no problems getting in. Water was available. Food was available. The music was great.
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Originally posted by Vlad I had no problems getting in. Water was available. Food was available. The music was great. |
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