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Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 20:35:

Thumbs up TOTA Mobile/Wireless/Celluar/VOIP Thread

Here's a thread where we can wax poetic about mobile/wireless/cellular/voip service & technology.

Post experiences, news, opinion, advice, requests for info/feedback, etc.

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Canada Mobile
Providers
Rogers Wireless http://www.rogers.com
Bell Mobility http://www.bell.ca
Telus Mobility http://www.telusmobility.com
Virgin Mobile * http://www.virginmobile.ca
Primus Mobile *http://www.primus.ca
Win-Tel Mobile * http://www.win-tel.ca
CityFone * http://www.cityfone.net
SimPro * http://www.simpro.ca/

Resources
Howard Forums http://www.howardforums.com
Steve Punter's Southern Ontario Cell Phone Page http://www.arcx.com/sites/

* - denotes reseller

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Canada VOIP
Providers
Vonage Canada http://www.vonage.ca
Primus http://www.primus.ca
Win-Tel * http://www.win-tel.ca

Resources
Vonage Forums http://www.vonage-forum.com

* - denotes reseller


Posted by Pett on Apr-23-2005 20:36:

fuck bell.......that is all


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-23-2005 20:37:



" Rogers....... " " "


edit:

oh yeah ...

" the people in the government who do not feel we require more open access to foreign competition in the Canadian wireless market....... " " "


Posted by magikb on Apr-23-2005 20:40:

I couldn't live without my crackberry, that is for sure


I have been with Rogers for several years now and have had no complaints about their celluar service or packages.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 20:44:

After towing the CDMA line for some time and preaching the gospel of Bell Mobility - I think I may have finally given in and realized that GPRS/EDGE is the way to go.

Perhaps it's Bell's/Telus's lack of market leadership in rolling out innovative devices and features that has led me to this position - however I can now honestly say that none of the CDMA providers inspire me with their service/offerings.

After playing with (not purchasing) a Nokia 3220 (http://82.208.4.102/kasaimg/foto/fo...hite-blue_0.jpg) for the last few days - Rogers is the way to go (IMO). Awesome handsets, uber-features and relatively competative pricing plans will make Rogers my next choice in service provider (unless Bell somehow re-invents the wheel, which I doubt).

After being a high-usage ($3k+ per annum) corporate Bell Mobility customer for 7 years this is a bit an epiphanal moment.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 20:52:

6682 & Symbian

SymbianOS is the future in devices (IMO) offering near real network IP connectivity for mobile devices.

Once Nokia rolls out the 6682 (http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/6682...,feat:1,00.html) I'm picking that bad boy up and moving to Rogers.


Posted by Pett on Apr-23-2005 20:58:

u make it seem so complicated..... bell phones often dont work indoors while my telus old school 1997 model gets calls in the subway sometimes


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-23-2005 20:58:

Yeah, Canada definitely need some foreign competitors!

Would probably solve some of these problems:
-Coverage is pretty crappy unless you are in cities, but even in stratford i have bad reception, and that is still 30 000 ppl so there should be good reception there imo.
-Paying for incomming calls sucks sooo badly, i mean, why should i pay for someone else calling me, that is just wrong!
-Canada currently have no 3G network.
-Expireing minutes @ pay as you go suck (perhaps its the same thing if you have a plan?)

Im done for now


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
bell phones often dont work indoors


I have had no reception problems with my red Bell Nokia - and it even works on P2 parking in my office parking garage.

Bell's reception isn't an issue for me. Bell just isn't a good option for the early-adopter set - which is why I'm now disinterested in Bell.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 21:07:

I added VOIP (which included WVOIP) to the topics of discussion.


Posted by TrueToTheCrew on Apr-23-2005 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by magikb
I couldn't live without my crackberry, that is for sure


Im useless without mine(8700g).

Does anyone have any experience with VONAGE

Im seriously considering switching to VOIP but i know bell is suppose to launch one too. Please share your thoughts


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-23-2005 21:13:



btw bigUPS to the peeps over at howardforums.com for helping push thru LNP in Canada. Those guys have been advocating it for a while and managed to mobilize a large number of their users to continuously write to their MPs which definately imho helped to swap government opinion on this issue.


Posted by St_Andrew on Apr-23-2005 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


btw bigUPS to the peeps over at howardforums.com for helping push thru LNP in Canada. Those guys have been advocating it for a while and managed to mobilize a large number of their users to continuously write to their MPs which definately imho helped to swap government opinion on this issue.



Next goal - Mobilize people to open up the market to foreign competitors!


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-23-2005 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
Next goal - Mobilize people to open up the market to foreign competitors!




yeah if only ..


Posted by smuncky on Apr-23-2005 21:23:

heres anoother provider, any use it??

http://www.win-tel.ca/en/residentia...ular/index.html


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-23-2005 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
heres anoother provider, any use it??

http://www.win-tel.ca/en/residentia...ular/index.html





Wintel, Primus, CityFone, SimPRO, etc. all piggyback off the former (now Rogers) Microcell GSM network .. so like Virgin Mobile, their coverage is limited by the coverage of their parent network.

It would be nice if a true competitor came in here and setup their own seperate network, but the costs would probably in the billions which casts doubt on whether or not we will ever see this truely happen. Perhaps if the government forces some of the existing providers to divest or sell off parts of their network to foreign competitors in order to help them lay the groundwork for a larger scale network, but at this point it too seems unlikely.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
Perhaps if the government forces some of the existing providers to divest or sell off parts of their network to foreign competitors in order to help them lay the groundwork for a larger scale network, but at this point it too seems unlikely.


I too would like that to happen (as they have done w/ hydro and local service) - however I suspect the market to be too small and too geographically vast to make it practical for a large player.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew
Does anyone have any experience with VONAGE


I have Vonage for my home phone service.

I have been without home phone service for 5 years and when I heard about Vonage I figured for $20 / month (500 minutes anywhere) - why not (it's not like I need/use a home phone that much anyway).

My setup @ home is actually WVOIP (wireless VOIP). I have the wireless router in the office, but I want my home phone in another room. So I purchased a wireless access point - put the access point where I want the phone, plut the Vonage VOIP router into the access point and viola!

Internet -> Cable Modem -> WiFi Router -> WiFi Access Point -> Vonage VOIP Router -> Cordless Phone

The setup works flawlessly and Vonage's features are top notch. I don't use the Vonage voice-mail, after 15 seconds of rining at home - it auto-forwards to my mobile phone's #. Also - if the internet connection goes down or the QOS (quality of service) gets too low - Vonage forwards to my mobile phone as well.

Nothing but good comments about Vonage. Expect Vonage to lower prices on their top 2 packages within the next little while.


Posted by Crazy Serb on Apr-23-2005 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
-Paying for incomming calls sucks sooo badly, i mean, why should i pay for someone else calling me, that is just wrong!


we let them get away with that... anyone remember the good old days when we didn't have to pay for incoming calls?


Posted by rabbitjoker on Apr-23-2005 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
Wintel, Primus, CityFone, SimPRO


How is it that these guys survive?


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-23-2005 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
How is it that these guys survive?




i hav no idea .. but they do. i think they only lease what network bandwidth they need so basically they're able to get by on very little assets.


Posted by Jer on Apr-24-2005 01:39:

Mmmmmmmmm, Crackberry.

I'm picking up a 7780 in the next couple of days.. I can't resist after playing w/ our store model.


Posted by Pett on Apr-24-2005 10:23:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker

Internet -> Cable Modem -> WiFi Router -> WiFi Access Point -> Vonage VOIP Router -> Cordless Phone


technology is getting so rediculous! i love it, i bet the delay/ping whatever isnt even noticeable to the human ear on that setup.


Posted by Surreal JRS on Apr-24-2005 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
fuck bell.......that is all


+∞ from someone who had to deal with their bullshit on a daily basis. Don't pass go, don't collect $200 and go straight to fucking Hell you ulcerated shit faced ass mongers!


Posted by Enraptured on Apr-24-2005 16:17:

Re: 6682 & Symbian

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
SymbianOS is the future in devices (IMO) offering near real network IP connectivity for mobile devices.

Once Nokia rolls out the 6682 (http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/6682...,feat:1,00.html) I'm picking that bad boy up and moving to Rogers.


Dude! It's got "burst mode"! Nice! (The camera takes a bunch of pics in a row) But it sounds like an automatic weapon!

I love my Slider (Kyocera) and I've had VERY few problems with Bell, as a whole... but I've heard my share of people complaining about their service, or lack thereof... I have yet to experience it, and I have to say that their coverage range is very good. VERY few dead spots.

The real test will be in early June I'm going to Switzerland and I want to see what they will do for me, I'm not going to be without a phone for two weeks, so we shall see!


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