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The Docks Nightclub - A health hazard?
My apologies if this has been posted already:
Tough rules sought for `noisy' club
The Docks poses `health hazard' to neighbours: MD
Liquor licence hearing panel mulls restrictions
LESLIE FERENC
STAFF REPORTER
Blaring music and raucous noise from a popular lakeside nightclub are a "health hazard" for area residents who complain they're losing sleep and their sanity because of the constant ruckus, an Alcohol and Gaming Commission panel has heard.
And unrelenting noise problems at The Docks near Cherry St. could also have a serious impact on the redevelopment of the waterfront, city Councillor Pam McConnell warned.
That plan would see 10,000 new residents in the area over the next few years. Developers may think twice about investing in an area under siege by loud noise from speakers, patrons and disc jockeys, said McConnell (Ward 28, Toronto Centre-Rosedale). It could also scare away new business.
"I'm concerned about the physical and economic health of the area," she testified during the ninth day of the hearing.
The commission is to determine whether The Docks gets its liquor licence revoked, or renewed and extended to include a second storey.
McConnell wants "iron-clad" conditions imposed on operations at the club and its owners compelled to abide by the rules or lose their liquor licence.
"We can't allow one business to ... infect an area," the councillor said, adding the noise has made life miserable for area residents for almost a decade.
"This is way out of control."
Residents of the Toronto Islands have been the hardest hit by "excessive, overwhelming, invasive and abusive" noise.
It's affected them "mentally and physically," McConnell said. Referring to a letter written by a resident in 2003, she noted the woman was brought to tears in the wee hours because she couldn't sleep.
"I have reached my wit's end," another wrote to the city.
A report from the city's former medical officer of health says excessive exposure to noise could cause hearing loss and stress-related heart problems.
But residents aren't the only ones complaining. McConnell said a waterfront film studio was forced to shut down a production because of the noise.
McConnell said operators of The Docks have failed to comply with conditions imposed when the club was first licensed in 1996. One called for the club to provide a phone number so residents could file noise complaints with its operators. And they've flagrantly ignored the city's noise bylaw, she said.
The commission heard earlier that along with building code infractions, the club is facing two noise violations following an all-night event in April. Police laid two charges of overcrowding in February. Earlier this year, an appeal court ruled the club must pay $6,000 in fines for earlier noise violations.
McConnell isn't convinced club operators will clean up their act should their proposal to expand be approved.
Council recently adopted McConnell's motion to oppose any expansion at The Docks or renewal of its liquor licence because of the "past and present conduct" of its operators.
The councillor appealed to the panel to impose tough rules "with teeth." She added if club owners don't follow them and police themselves, The Docks should be shut down.
"Slaps on the wrist and small fines don't make a difference."
Among renewal conditions being considered is limiting patio capacity, restricting amplified entertainment and loud voices between 11 p.m. and 11 a.m. and ending outdoor alcohol service at midnight.
The hearing continues today.
*sigh*...there are a bunch of nasty things I wanted to say about this...but I'll hold myself back...this is so stupid...Completely retarded
I've been saying for eons that the music played there is a health hazard...I mean 6 hours of tiesto!! that can't be good for anyone.
how about somebody who cried because they couldnt sleep?
is it that bad? maybe some of us dont understand because we dont live there, the noise does travel very well over water.
hope the docks doesnt go under.
someone should call Tony Soprano to "take care" of our little lady problem.
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| Originally posted by Skipper I've been saying for eons that the music played there is a health hazard...I mean 6 hours of tiesto!! that can't be good for anyone. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper I've been saying for eons that the music played there is a health hazard...I mean 6 hours of tiesto!! that can't be good for anyone. |
couldn't help but chuckle at some of those things
"restricting loud voices between 11 p.m. and 11 a.m"
although i'm curious to find out how loud it actually is at the islands during a busy club night.
"Slaps on the wrist and small fines don't make a difference."
they don't, but the city isn't gonna get any money either if they simply shut down the club. milk it for another decade long of "miserable life" - now thats a strategy!
This is a serious problem.
If this happens to The Docks - it will not stop there. Next will be the entertainment disctrict, then The Guvernment.
This is a serious and calculated attack on the nightclub industry.
What ever happened to that petition or plan for action?
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker This is a serious and calculated attack on the nightclub industry. What ever happened to that petition or plan for action? |
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker Bwhahahahahah! You going to be there on the 31st for Industry Summer party? |
stupidness. not our fault sound travels really well across water 
Fuck man, that is bullshit!
RJ is 100% right... I cant believe the stuff that ppl are complaining about and getting away with recently! Its digusting and I dont like the direction everything seems to be going in!
Fucking christ.....
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker This is a serious problem. If this happens to The Docks - it will not stop there. Next will be the entertainment disctrict, then The Guvernment. This is a serious and calculated attack on the nightclub industry. What ever happened to that petition or plan for action? |
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| Originally posted by Skipper I've been saying for eons that the music played there is a health hazard...I mean 6 hours of tiesto!! that can't be good for anyone. |
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| Originally posted by Avro someone should call Tony Soprano to "take care" of our little lady problem. |
damn islanders they dont even pay property taxes
i'm taking care of my friends place for 10 days on the island. and it faces right towards the docks... so i'll give you all the inside info on what it's really like!
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| Originally posted by oldschool420 i'm taking care of my friends place for 10 days on the island. and it faces right towards the docks... so i'll give you all the inside info on what it's really like! |
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| Originally posted by amb_ You should do something like hook up with some sound testing equipment and record/video record the results. |
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| Originally posted by oldschool420 if someone wants to suppply me with this, i'd have no problem doing it. my friend even says its not THAT bad... the people are just weak and like to bitch because they've lived there for over 30 years.but that's garbage... i say they just need to learn to DEAL WITH IT! lol |
Regardless of what they might think, they need to realise they still live in the City of Toronto, the largest urban area in Canada, and less than 3km away from one of the most densely populated area in North America. Business should not and will not be held hostage by a small group of nay-sayers.
docks closing means that will disturb my partyin and my party habits and that isn't gonna happen...
something has gotta go and it isn't gonna be my partyin 
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| Originally posted by magikb docks closing means that will disturb my partyin and my party habits and that isn't gonna happen... something has gotta go and it isn't gonna be my partyin |
While I understand that we wanna continue partying etc., I also understand these islanders.
If I lived on that island for 20 years, and then all of a sudden I can't sleep due to loud music during pretty much every friday/saturday night - I'd be complaining !
Before you dismiss their complaints, why don't you put yourself in their shoes for a minute. Have you considered that it might actually be loud over there ?
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