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Posted by HardTranceProd on Aug-01-2005 18:00:

Thumbs down Washington DC sucks

I live here in the DC area (Bethesda MD), hang out in the city quite a bit, and it sucks. Socially speaking, it's one of the most toxic, unfriendly places in America.

Anybody else living in DC or ever been here for a visit?

I find it ironic that Forbes Magazine consistently puts DC in the "Top 5 Places for Singles." This year, they ranked it #5:

http://www.forbes.com/2005/07/25/si...g_0725land.html

I agree there are many singles but the vibe is just UGH. A lot of cliques and a lot of phony Euros. Dupont and Adams Morgan in particular are so phony. In the 2 years of living here I've only had a few dates...

anybody agree/disagree


Posted by Krypton on Aug-01-2005 18:19:

ive currently been visiting for 3 weeks now. its nice to visit, but not to live. club nations is an alright club, but there arent any others in the area. everything is expensive, and i find many of the people to be fake, i dunno. the city is a pretty majestic place, but i wouldnt want to live here.

above all, theres nothing to do. theres usually something to do, some place to go in florida.


Posted by Greedy on Aug-01-2005 19:05:

Re: Washington DC sucks

quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
I live here in the DC area (Bethesda MD), hang out in the city quite a bit, and it sucks. Socially speaking, it's one of the most toxic, unfriendly places in America.

Anybody else living in DC or ever been here for a visit?

I find it ironic that Forbes Magazine consistently puts DC in the "Top 5 Places for Singles." This year, they ranked it #5:

http://www.forbes.com/2005/07/25/si...g_0725land.html

I agree there are many singles but the vibe is just UGH. A lot of cliques and a lot of phony Euros. Dupont and Adams Morgan in particular are so phony. In the 2 years of living here I've only had a few dates...

anybody agree/disagree


so youre mad because you cant score in DC?


Posted by 531.am on Aug-01-2005 19:07:

Re: Re: Washington DC sucks

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
so youre mad because you cant score in DC?


lmao


Posted by DeRangedMind on Aug-01-2005 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
ive currently been visiting for 3 weeks now. its nice to visit, but not to live. club nations is an alright club, but there arent any others in the area. everything is expensive, and i find many of the people to be fake , i dunno. the city is a pretty majestic place, but i wouldnt want to live here.

above all, theres nothing to do. theres usually something to do, some place to go in florida.


Posted by tctitan on Aug-01-2005 19:11:

i've lived in the d.c. metro area pretty much all my life, there's a lot of pretentiousness (sp?) in certain clubs i would say; for the most part though there's plenty to do, i guess it depends on what kind of people u know or about particular spots to go to (not just clubs).


Posted by tatgirl on Aug-01-2005 19:30:

Its true, dude. DC is a really tough city to meet people in. Believe me, I didn't have a lack of people in my social circle by any means, but as far as dating or making friends, its really hard.

I moved to Toronto almost 6 yrs ago, and on a typical night out at a club, you could come home w/5 new friends phone numbers. I think I only made 2 friends in the 5+ yrs I was going to Buzz. People are WAY friendlier here.

Dating on the other hand was even tougher up here. DC was full of dogs who wouldn't commit, but at least you got laid. It took me 4 yrs to meet anyone here (and lucky for me he stuck around ).


Posted by HardTranceProd on Aug-01-2005 19:30:

It's very clique-y here. Very hard to meet people because of the unfriendly, negative vibe. Everybody has their guards up, even NYC is a hundred times friendlier.

Besides, this town is amazingly small. Chances are, if you go to a few parties, you've already seen most of the people in that circle. And you'll bump into others from different circles, all the time. It's an extremely small place.

@ CobraCommander - so do you agree it's fake?
@ whoever asked about scoring - yep. I recently went to NYC for a weekend, and on both nights saw girls who were interested in me. That's a lot more than I've had here in DC in many, many months. NOBODY SMILES HERE ever.


Posted by DeRangedMind on Aug-01-2005 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd

@ CobraCommander - so do you agree it's fake?

Yes


Posted by Krypton on Aug-01-2005 21:40:

a funny thing about this place is the abundancy of marijuana. within the first week of being here, i already had a hookup. the DC stash i have left will be used up wednesday, the last night im here.

back to school the 8th...


Posted by trancEyes22 on Aug-01-2005 22:48:

first of all, it's club nation. not nations. second of all, that is NOT the only thing to do! if you guys aren't having fun in DC, maybe that has to do with YOU and not the city. i live right between dc and baltimore, and always have a great time. TONS to do in both!


Posted by HardTranceProd on Aug-02-2005 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
i live right between dc and baltimore, and always have a great time.


That's completely different.
Baltimore and College Park have a completely different vibe to them. They're more in tune with the rest of America (i.e. people are friendly, not defensive).

@TranceVanDyk you better be careful because there's more cops here than in all your Florida PD combined. Hell, they're all like irate dogs here. Always ready to be pull somebody over or arrest you. They're crazy here.


Posted by Krypton on Aug-02-2005 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
first of all, it's club nation. not nations. second of all, that is NOT the only thing to do! if you guys aren't having fun in DC, maybe that has to do with YOU and not the city. i live right between dc and baltimore, and always have a great time. TONS to do in both!


i know its nation, but for whatever reason, i say nations. a sub-consious thing.

quote:
@TranceVanDyk you better be careful because there's more cops here than in all your Florida PD combined. Hell, they're all like irate dogs here. Always ready to be pull somebody over or arrest you. They're crazy here.


i tend to hang around the springfield/fairfax area, not so much to worry about as DC. but this is the first time my hookup actually has called me to ask if i need anything instead of me having to do the calling. but tampa PD is pretty ubiquitous, so i dont fuck around DUI or anything.


Posted by DeRangedMind on Aug-02-2005 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
first of all, it's club nation. not nations. second of all, that is NOT the only thing to do! if you guys aren't having fun in DC, maybe that has to do with YOU and not the city. i live right between dc and baltimore, and always have a great time. TONS to do in both!


Quit giving a fuck on what places are called you'd argue this too much and its never going to change.

Also D.C. being the Capital it has one of the worst crime rates in America and many places look like wasteland


Posted by trancEyes22 on Aug-02-2005 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Commander
Quit giving a fuck on what places are called you'd argue this too much and its never going to change.

Also D.C. being the Capital it has one of the worst crime rates in America and many places look like wasteland



how is stating the name arguing too much? and pfft...you are one of the biggest internet trolls around here, so quit YER bitching!


Posted by CivicRydr on Aug-02-2005 02:43:

disagree

The DC metro area is nice compared to many other places (cities) in the US. Maybe its not top 5, but top 10 for sure. There are good looking people, yummy food, bars, clubs, shopping malls, parks, nice cars...and these things are at a higher number and quality then many other cities. If you know what you want, DC has probably got it. You just gotta go out and get it.

agree

As far as meeting new people, of course tt is not as people friendly as Canada, but what is? It is like any other US urban city where people are hard asses and don't really seem like they need new friends. Sad.


Posted by DeRangedMind on Aug-02-2005 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
how is stating the name arguing too much? and pfft...you are one of the biggest internet trolls around here, so quit YER bitching!



You are annoying


Posted by limin_li on Aug-02-2005 03:19:

hey bro, let me tell you this. I use to live in Bethesda. 4804 Wellington Drive to be exact. The vibe from 1992 to 96 was pretty friendly. Then, I moved to Baltimore County which totally sucked balls.

Yes agree with you, on the social issue there around the DC area, because people are too much into themselves. However they are nice people out there. I met Dwayne in late 2001, and he was very friendly, not because he was working @ Tower Records in Rockville. Because, he was a good person period.


Posted by bigjimslade002 on Aug-02-2005 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
I think I only made 2 friends in the 5+ yrs I was going to Buzz. People are WAY friendlier here.


i better have been one of those 2








GIVE TRANCE A CHANCE....


Posted by vtec junkie on Aug-02-2005 06:23:

Ive always thought the people in DC were rather friendly. There isn't too many people in DC that are from that area. People there are from all over the place. Maybe you are hanging out in the wrong places??? It's all what you make of it my friend. I was shacked up in the middle east for three months a few summers ago and I made the best of it and actually had a pretty decent time. You said people there do not smile....well did you ever try smiling at them? If somebody is acting snobby or stuck up....try smiling at them and approaching them from that angle....alot of the time it will put their snobby-ness attitude problems in check.


Posted by Greedy on Aug-02-2005 09:00:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
Ive always thought the people in DC were rather friendly. There isn't too many people in DC that are from that area. People there are from all over the place. Maybe you are hanging out in the wrong places??? It's all what you make of it my friend. I was shacked up in the middle east for three months a few summers ago and I made the best of it and actually had a pretty decent time. You said people there do not smile....well did you ever try smiling at them? If somebody is acting snobby or stuck up....try smiling at them and approaching them from that angle....alot of the time it will put their snobby-ness attitude problems in check.


thats true, unless you live in NYC or southern Cali, ppl will always complain that there's nothing to do etc. . .

My suggestion is to go out try different things. There's lots to do in DC if your're willing to explore. If youre under 18, then yea, I would agree that it would be harder for u to get out.


Posted by tatgirl on Aug-02-2005 12:00:

quote:
Originally posted by bigjimslade002
i better have been one of those 2


Actually, I met you AFTER I moved to Canada, at Glow, and only because we had TA in common. TA is the reason I made any new acquaintences/ friends in DC when I visited. (You really are my favorite DC TA tho ).

quote:
Originally posted by CivicRydr
There are good looking people, yummy food, bars, clubs, shopping malls, parks, nice cars...and these things are at a higher number and quality then many other cities. If you know what you want, DC has probably got it.


+1 about that- better restaurants and sales at stores compared to here in Canada, tho we do have cooler clothing here- many of the 'rave clothing lines' originate from Canada (not like I fit into any of it ). I do miss those restaurants, and the bars that actually pour you a real drink, and not some measured 1.5 oz liquor shot. Our clubs and lineups here kick DC's ass, tho. < Between that & the friendly people, its the reason why I havent moved back. I've put up with higher gas prices, illogical bank rules, shitty postal system, and 15% taxes just for that.


Posted by HardTranceProd on Aug-02-2005 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
thats true, unless you live in NYC or southern Cali, ppl will always complain that there's nothing to do etc. . .

I'm not complaining there's nothing to do. I agree DC has lots of activities. The problem is the people, and the vibe.

I hate it when I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone (I'm in my late twenties), then when we order a drink in a restaurant, we have to show our IDs. How silly and childish is that (rarely, if ever, happened in NYC or LA to me). People here are sooo scared of alcohol.

Cops being too aggressive is an understatement. I've been pulled over for some silly shit so many times, and when they pull me over, there's like 3-4 police cars that "box me in" and shit like I'm the worst criminal or terrorist.

The people have a big DO NOT APPROACH ME sign on the streets and on the metro.


Posted by avikonen on Aug-02-2005 17:59:

I lived in DC for a long time before moving to NYC. I've never regretted this decision. I never enjoyed DC either. Very cliquey and people are fake. They want to know you if you can help them with their careers was my feeling.


Posted by tabthe3 on Aug-05-2005 16:29:

I am not the biggest fan of DC either. I have lived here for over two years at this point. I've had so many fake conversations with people at bars/clubs. The city definately has plenty to do, but when I go out, I tend to only hang out with my friends. Going out is not super condusive to meeting new people. I tend to meet new people through sports or other activities rather than by going out.

Whenever I go to NYC or Chicago, I have a much better time when I am out. People are way more friendly.

People in DC have always struck me as having the "what can you do for me" attitude, as has been mentioned before. I have tons of acquaintances, but few friends. The people seem to be ex-frat/sorority or eurotrash. When I am a bar I feel like I am in a frat basement or some snobby lounge where not having a table makes me inferior (at least in other ppl's eyes).


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