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Posted by cap on Aug-10-2005 06:57:

Secret Societies // Rich Elite Class

Beyond publically known organizations such as the Skull 'n' Bones society, do you think there are secret societies or groups of people with such vast wealth and power that they can dictate world events behind the scenes?

Are they more powerful than Governments, or tied into Governments?

I really think the average person goes through life not knowing many of his/her perceptions, values, etc., have been somehow altered by people behind the scenes...


Posted by donnybrasco on Aug-10-2005 07:13:

Well, it's said that a very small minority controls the Federal Reserve Bank in this country (which basically controls the nations money supply and it's subsequent real buying power/value)...don't know if it's true...but I DO know George Soros tried to influence the last election and he wasted a lot of his money in the process...I was glad to see that.


Posted by rainbow_marble on Aug-10-2005 07:14:

hmm possibly... i personally have always wondered if there is one group or one man that controls most of the power in the US... this "man" acts behind the scenes and does not have a face recognized by the public, however he uses war generals and the president as puppets. of course this isnt very logical, but in an 'x-files'ish way its fun to think about


Posted by donnybrasco on Aug-10-2005 07:17:

^^^He exists....and he's called; Alan Greenspan, lol.


Posted by GRinLoCK on Aug-10-2005 07:19:

the math is easy..... 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population..... wealth = money = power i dont think they need to keep it to secret that they own our asses.


Posted by cap on Aug-10-2005 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by GRinLoCK
the math is easy..... 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population..... wealth = money = power i dont think they need to keep it to secret that they own our asses.


I know there are rich people out there like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet... that's not the question.


The question is whether these people secretly collude to manipulate or cause world events.

Also, are there societies out there whose wealth is not publicaly known/accounted for and not compiled on lists like "Fortune's richest people."

I think so.


Posted by Dupz on Aug-10-2005 10:17:

quote:
Originally posted by rainbow_marble
hmm possibly... i personally have always wondered if there is one group or one man that controls most of the power in the US... this "man" acts behind the scenes and does not have a face recognized by the public, however he uses war generals and the president as puppets. of course this isnt very logical, but in an 'x-files'ish way its fun to think about


"Presidents as puppets". It's not as stupid a concept as you might think.
I mean, George Bush is the best example of a world leader that is nothing but a figurehead being manipulated by those around him. I suppose that goes with anyone with an IQ in this single digits


Posted by Chris Larkin on Aug-10-2005 10:57:

quote:
Originally posted by rainbow_marble
hmm possibly... i personally have always wondered if there is one group or one man that controls most of the power in the US... this "man" acts behind the scenes and does not have a face recognized by the public, however he uses war generals and the president as puppets. of course this isnt very logical, but in an 'x-files'ish way its fun to think about

Kind of in a Hitchhiker' Guide To The Galaxy way? Zaophod Beeblebrox is the emperor, but he does not really hold the power in the universe, although only 6 people know who does.


Posted by Shakka on Aug-10-2005 13:47:

Sounds like another conspiracy theorist thread. Let me sport a few guesses.

The Freemasons
The Bilderbergs
The Illuminati
Skull & Bones
Bohemian Grove

Any others? How bout those damn Scientologists just for kicks!


Posted by Krypton on Aug-10-2005 19:54:

the back of the american one dollar bill suggests this.

the inscription NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM means, "New Secular Order"

these people yearn for a one world government and world order. all world events are heading that way. the formation of the EU, the World Bank, the UN.


Posted by Krypton on Aug-10-2005 20:00:

Globalization
The conspiracy facts are that Elite inner circle members of the Bilderbergs (BB), Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and Trilateral Commission (TC) are conspiring to politically and economically dominate the entire world under their New World Order, more recently called Globalization, or Global Union, Global Economy, Global Order, Global Environment, and like terms. When President G.H.W. Bush used the term New World Order in several of his speeches, it aroused suspicion and concern among the public. So, the Elite selected a generic term "Globalization" to use, and now Americans are no longer alarmed, because the business world uses this term daily, so it must not be so frightening. But, you cannot change a tiger's stripes. We're still talking about the New World Order.


"Globalization"
and
Secret Societies Exposed by RIE
Plus
The Elite Serial Killers of Lincoln, JFK, RFK & MLK
"So do not be afraid of them.
There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed,
or hidden that will not be made known.

We know who�s really behind the Shadow Government, the New World Order, or the Global Union.
They�re all one and the same.
We not only know which secret organizations are in control, we now know the names of the two men at the very top.

www.4rie.com


Posted by ogvh5150 on Aug-11-2005 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
When President G.H.W. Bush used the term New World Order in several of his speeches, it aroused suspicion and concern among the public.


This is an historic moment. We have in this past year made great progress in ending the long era of conflict and cold war. We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations.
When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peace-keeping role to fulfil the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders.
George H.W. Bush, January 16th 1991, Attack on Iraq

We have confidence because freedom is the permanent hope of mankind, the hunger in dark places, the longing of the soul. When our Founders declared a new order of the ages...
George W. Bush, January 20th 2005, Presidential Inauguration

The U.S. State Department translation of "novus ordo seclorum" is:
"A new order of the ages"
http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/seclorum.html


If it talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck then it must be a duck.


Posted by GRinLoCK on Aug-13-2005 06:33:

common guys the societies named above ..... the freemasons etc. they are hardly secret, especially in there meddling. Here in my country in the 1800s we had a french intervention. It is no secret that the conflict that arouse afterward was really a a conflict between 2 different schools of masons: The Scottish rite and the new york masons. These people are meddlers but they are hardly secret. Other "secret" societies that at one point or anothere have been shady meddlers are:

Opus Dei
the CIA
the sicilian mob (makes american mobsters look like pansies)
the mexican mob
the chinese mob
The Assasins (the Hasshishin)
The Yakuza
and many many others....

Most conspiracy theories are mixed up with some serious bullshit.
Most of the goals of the people in power are as plain and clear
as night and day. Most involves the acquisition of Capital which in our present day society equals Wealth. why so much fuss? Because Capitalism is in serious trouble (possibly in its dying agony if we take into account the economic theory contained in Karl Marx's The Capital) Most of these Organizations are making a grab for whatever they can get (resources). Right now the Wars are about Oil because Oil = Big bucks. But soon as other resources become scarce we will see conflicts of a different nature (For water or lumber for example). And well be asking ourselves the same question: are the powers conspiring against us (the masses)? And the answer will be yes (to fuck us over for the little we have left).


Posted by Akridrot on Aug-13-2005 13:35:

quote:
Originally posted by GRinLoCK
Most of these Organizations are making a grab for whatever they can get (resources). Right now the Wars are about Oil because Oil = Big bucks. But soon as other resources become scarce we will see conflicts of a different nature (For water or lumber for example). And well be asking ourselves the same question: are the powers conspiring against us (the masses)? And the answer will be yes (to fuck us over for the little we have left).


That's the way it has to be. I don't see it as 'fucking us over' at all.


Posted by Shakka on Aug-13-2005 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by GRinLoCK
common guys the societies named above ..... the freemasons etc. they are hardly secret, especially in there meddling. Here in my country in the 1800s we had a french intervention. It is no secret that the conflict that arouse afterward was really a a conflict between 2 different schools of masons: The Scottish rite and the new york masons. These people are meddlers but they are hardly secret. Other "secret" societies that at one point or anothere have been shady meddlers are:

Opus Dei
the CIA
the sicilian mob (makes american mobsters look like pansies)
the mexican mob
the chinese mob
The Assasins (the Hasshishin)
The Yakuza
and many many others....


Those aren't exactly "Secret Societies". With the exception of Opus Dei, those are primarily organized crime rings. Might as well throw the Crips and the Bloods in there for kicks.


Posted by Yoepus on Aug-13-2005 20:32:

The whole world is ruled by the Evil Zionist Mustard Lobby


There I said it


Why do you think Swamper went to such lenghts to ban mustard on his forums?!

OPEN YOUR EYES


Posted by Goashem on Aug-13-2005 22:58:

dont forget the stone cutters!

mmmm sacred parchment....


Posted by metalgearsolid on Aug-14-2005 00:32:

Behold, my arse.

wow I love how some threads end up to be turning into a joke

Back on topic.

Sure there are secret societies but why would they be talked about? THEY ARE SECRET.

All those societies mentioned are filled with a bunch of rich kids who are well known, and you can get research on them so they aren't really secret anymore.


Posted by Trancer-X on Aug-14-2005 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Sounds like another conspiracy theorist thread. Let me sport a few guesses.

The Freemasons
The Bilderbergs
The Illuminati
Skull & Bones
Bohemian Grove

Any others?


There are many more. Here's another couple:

Trilateral Commission

Cecil Rhodes / Lord Milner Round Table Group

http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/cikkek/anglo_01.html


Posted by squirrelly on Aug-14-2005 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka

Any others? How bout those damn Scientologists just for kicks!


They do shell out an obscene amount of money to be a part of that cult...


Posted by Shakka on Aug-14-2005 12:44:

I have a secret society. I'd tell you where we meet and what we talk about but it's a secret. I think we're meeting later this afternoon...


Posted by metalgearsolid on Aug-14-2005 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I have a secret society. I'd tell you where we meet and what we talk about but it's a secret. I think we're meeting later this afternoon...

....can I come

oh and another secret society The Men in Black and X-Files


Posted by metalgearsolid on Aug-14-2005 23:28:

All I had to do was type in Secret societies in yahoo and I got this.Secret Societies

Anyways I kinda think it would be cool if there was a secret society like the one in cowboy bebop. With guys wearing long black coats and they are fucking nuts.

But secret societies are kinda like fraternities ppl join them to fit into a group of individuals.

Something we all forgot were Covens. Theres vampire


wiccan


Posted by Shakka on Aug-15-2005 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
All I had to do was type in Secret societies in yahoo and I got this.Secret Societies

Anyways I kinda think it would be cool if there was a secret society like the one in cowboy bebop. With guys wearing long black coats and they are fucking nuts.

But secret societies are kinda like fraternities ppl join them to fit into a group of individuals.

Something we all forgot were Covens. Theres vampire


wiccan


You know what's funny? I once typed in www.secretsociety.com just for the hell of it. Nothing but a news filter as far as I could tell--but you have to use IE to get to it. Firefox yields to its mighty influence.


Posted by Trancer-X on Aug-16-2005 05:01:

Committee of 300


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