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how long for you to beatmatch and other stuff

Well I am finally able to beatmatch a track in under 1 minute! How long does it take the average DJ to beatmatch a record? I am guessing well under 30 seconds for people that play clubs regularly?

Also, while I'm beatmatching, if the needle gets further into the song than I want it to be, I have a habit of picking the needle up and placing it at the beginning of the record again. Should I be using my hand to move the record backwards instead of doing this? I don't want to look like a nub the first time I play out.

It usually takes me about 30 seconds to beatmatch. If i'm tried though, it takes me a little longer; I have a difficult time hearing the beats drift. Weird.

I wouldn't worry about picking the needle up versus backspinning the record. Whichever way works for you. I don't think other dj's or club patrons would make fun of you because of your methods. Don't sweat it.

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Originally posted by Ygrene It usually takes me about 30 seconds to beatmatch. If i'm tried though, it takes me a little longer; I have a difficult time hearing the beats drift. Weird. I wouldn't worry about picking the needle up versus backspinning the record. Whichever way works for you. I don't think other dj's or club patrons would make fun of you because of your methods. Don't sweat it.

alright. good.

have you played out before?

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Also, while I'm beatmatching, if the needle gets further into the song than I want it to be, I have a habit of picking the needle up and placing it at the beginning of the record again. Should I be using my hand to move the record backwards instead of doing this? I don't want to look like a nub the first time I play out.

you are supposed to pick it up you will cause cue burn if you backspin. please pick the needle up and put it in the begining it will save your records. Besides backspining to the start of the record will take way longer. I play out pretty regularly and i can get a track beat matched in 20 seconds or less but its somewhat accurate, it probably takes 30-40 to get it perfect. For hip hop i can get a track matched in less time depending on how accurate i want to be sometimes i thro on the track and within 8-10 beats i have it matched.

another question...

lets say the club is open for 4 hours. I get to play the first hour. Am I responsible for getting off the decks on time or do the other DJ/DJ's come and let you know? When you are playing your last record for your set, do you leave immediately after you put it on so that the next DJ can decide what track to play and beatmatch it?

Saw Ferry this weekend, but when he came on he just stopped the last record that was being played by the opening act.

Rule of thumb is you just mix into the last record of the previous DJ. Until you get big enough like Ferry, Armin, Tiesto, etc. then you should continue to do this...

Unless of course it's completely different styles

i hardly even get to mix anymore. my mixer is shit so i can never use them and ive been away at college for a month now. only time i get to mix is when im on my friends setup back home once in a while. due to this lack of time to play, my beatmatching takes me anywhere from 30sec to 3 minutes to do

hopefully i can stop spending money and save up for some equipment

Well, that sounds ridiculous (not to mention it'll add extra wear and tear to your needle and record)! Backspinning until you get to the beginning of the record just so you don't look like a nub? C'mon now, relax, pick up that needle 80 times if you need to and let it rip!

takes me 10-20 seconds with my cdj-200's

I can often do it well enough to slam it in then ride the pitch in about 5 if I'm using vinyl, usually spend 10-20 on it though depending on what I'm doing... I think it shows which ones I did it that quickly with in my techno demos though where you get a couple of slightly rough mixes

16 measures.

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Originally posted by [NFC]Wave Rule of thumb is you just mix into the last record of the previous DJ. Until you get big enough like Ferry, Armin, Tiesto, etc. then you should continue to do this... Unless of course it's completely different styles

stopping the previous dj's record is rude. Atleast try and mix into it or let it play out. Oh, and dont touch the eq's! I think there is a thread already on here about this.

Jay

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Originally posted by xstalkrx another question... lets say the club is open for 4 hours. I get to play the first hour. Am I responsible for getting off the decks on time or do the other DJ/DJ's come and let you know? When you are playing your last record for your set, do you leave immediately after you put it on so that the next DJ can decide what track to play and beatmatch it? Saw Ferry this weekend, but when he came on he just stopped the last record that was being played by the opening act.

when i saw ferry he just continued on... the guy befor ehim was playing proggyish trance tho.. easy transition..

i think unless you are oakenfold you just continue on..

It varies depending on how well I know the track, new tracks take me between 30-45 sec's. Tracks I know, 15-20 seconds (mainly because I know their BPM's).

But I havent played aloud yet, so its gonna be a second learning curve for me.

i usually beatmatch for around 10-30 secs (depending on what tune it is). i just get it roughly and the use the pitch bend or fader to correct it after that.

if you can master correcting the record before it becomes noticable then you're mixes will become much quicker and ul have more time to spend on everythin else (eq'in, cuttin, effects, scratchin, needle droppin, etc)!

never heard of needle dropping before...what is that


sucks that the thread that was supposed to define this got moved back

simply droppin the needle at different parts of records.

eg.

(best if you play techno)
have a tune spinnin on channel 1, & have the cross fader in the middle. then if you choose a bit of a track (beatless bit, maybe a breakdown or guitar) then drop the needle on it for maybe 4 beats then lift it & drop it on a different part of the track on the next beat, etc.

you can also do it with a track playin backwards quite fast!

il post more about it in the mixin tips sticky thread when a get a chance

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Originally posted by wee_rooney simply droppin the needle at different parts of records. eg. (best if you play techno) have a tune spinnin on channel 1, & have the cross fader in the middle. then if you choose a bit of a track (beatless bit, maybe a breakdown or guitar) then drop the needle on it for maybe 4 beats then lift it & drop it on a different part of the track on the next beat, etc. you can also do it with a track playin backwards quite fast! il post more about it in the mixin tips sticky thread when a get a chance

Of course this works best with tunes that are 133 bpm cos they'll have exactly 1 bar per revolution of the record so wherever you drop the needle it'll be in time

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Of course this works best with tunes that are 133 bpm cos they'll have exactly 1 bar per revolution of the record so wherever you drop the needle it'll be in time

aye, but the tune your droppin in doesnt necessarily have a beat, so thats no too important! tunes like david bowie, etc. with big slow guitar intros.

About 6-7 seconds to get "pretty close," and then maybe another 15 to make it as close as it's gonna get.

Of course, if I have a lot of time before I want to mix in, I'll spend more time to perfect it.

I take as much time needed to get the beats locked perfectly as much as I can. I'd rather be doing something productive that helps me sound better, than sitting there waiting for the song to come to near end.

Depends on what I'm mixing in/out of.
Usually 20 seconds or so, to get the pitch right. And then however long it takes to wait for the right time to cue it up.

20 - 30 my ass. I like to get it so I can sit there and play the whole record out before it starts fading out. I like as much time NOT touching the decks and just straight up concentraing on the smoothest mix I can get.

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Originally posted by SpecRadio 20 - 30 my ass. I like to get it so I can sit there and play the whole record out before it starts fading out. I like as much time NOT touching the decks and just straight up concentraing on the smoothest mix I can get.

Umm... people here are talking about how long it takes you to beatmatch 2 tracks, not how long your transitions are.

I think he may be spending he takes even longer on getting the pitch absolutely nut-crackingly perfect.

Either way, he obviously doesn't mix techno

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