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Metrosexual

What does it mean? Is it an american term?

I looked on urban dictionary but still don't understand. Is it someone who looks/dresses gay but isn't?

it basically means that you're better than everyone else...

Re: Metrosexual

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Originally posted by Grrrrr What does it mean? Is it an american term? I looked on urban dictionary but still don't understand. Is it someone who looks/dresses gay but isn't?

yup, thats pretty much it. They basically have all the traits of a homosexual, but they still enjoy vagina.

metro's don't have all the traits of gay people...that's just something ugly people like to say to justify why they aren't cool too hehe

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Originally posted by Floorfiller metro's don't have all the traits of gay people...that's just something ugly people like to say to justify why they aren't cool too hehe

hehe

Oh yeah...clone wars are over.

it means either a) in the closet, b) vein and superficial, or c) both

It's all dependant on if you see 'gay' as an insult. It's basically using what society views as 'gay' to get women though, based on the idea that straight women tend to befriend gay men.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard it means either a) in the closet, b) vein and superficial, or c) both

I'd say this is probably a more accurate description, from all of the ones I've met.

i don't think it has anything to do with pretending to be gay.


really it's just about realizing it's a good thing to take care of yourself and look nice. why is that gay? the only reason people call them gay is because they are threatened by them...so they have to make it derrogatory...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i don't think it has anything to do with pretending to be gay. really it's just about realizing it's a good thing to take care of yourself and look nice. why is that gay? the only reason people call them gay is because they are threatened by them...so they have to make it derrogatory...

Who said anything about pretending there big shooter? Men who are gay but have not allowed themselves to believe it or have not announced it to the public at large often fall into the Metro catagory. Other metros are men who place such a high priority on looking good that they go to excessive lengths to do so, subsquently, one can only extrapulate that they are vein or superficial.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Who said anything about pretending there big shooter? Men who are gay but have not allowed themselves to believe it or have not announced it to the public at large often fall into the Metro catagory. Other metros are men who place such a high priority on looking good that they go to excessive lengths to do so, subsquently, one can only extrapulate that they are vein or superficial.

i've known many people that were the biggest homophobes before they came out of the closet, and when they did...they were the flamingest gay man you ever met...so i don't think there is any great connection to what you're saying.

it may be narcissistic, but it has nothing to do with sexuality. as i've argued before...i think you'll generally find a trend among people that care about their appearance to succeed in other aspects of life as well.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i don't think it has anything to do with pretending to be gay. really it's just about realizing it's a good thing to take care of yourself and look nice. why is that gay? the only reason people call them gay is because they are threatened by them...so they have to make it derrogatory...

so does metrosexual only apply to a certain criteria like you have to have a faux do with a collar popped and tight jeans on and you take care of your clothes and the way you look?

or can a thug be metrosexual as well? like baby lotion and facial creams, cleans his sneakers and hats all the time. make sure all their clothes are fitted by reputable brands like mitchell n ness or something from BAPE?

be it we do away with the gay ideology, metro's basically take care of themselves much more, they pay attention to themselves, yes that can be categorized as vein and insecure but the fact of the matter is, metrosexual as a term has be categorized and associated with gay people or people who look really good (down to the eyebrows).

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i've known many people that were the biggest homophobes before they came out of the closet, and when they did...they were the flamingest gay man you ever met...so i don't think there is any great connection to what you're saying. it may be narcissistic, but it has nothing to do with sexuality. as i've argued before...i think you'll generally find a trend among people that care about their appearance to succeed in other aspects of life as well.

There is a difference between caring and the level Metro's take it to.

they also love the cock.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard There is a difference between caring and the level Metro's take it to.

i would expect someone like yourself to see that it's a socially created ideology that what these people do is considered extreme.


anyway, just for the record...i've really enjoyed debating with you the last couple days moral...even if we disagree on some things. i hope you haven't taken any offense by any of it because in a lot of instances i've just been playing devil's advocate...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller anyway, just for the record...i've really enjoyed debating with you the last couple days moral...even if we disagree on some things. i hope you haven't taken any offense by any of it because in a lot of instances i've just been playing devil's advocate...

It is very difficult to offend me, Jason. I tend to look at debates or even arguments as an intellectual exercise and more recreational then anything else. I don't expect people to agree with me, just to listen and reflect upon the points I make as I do with theirs. Hell, I don't even mind being proven wrong, I just like to process. I've enjoyed our little quarels.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard There is a difference between caring and the level Metro's take it to.

really and who sets that threshold?

Mizz

I love the stupid shit people come up with these days and how EVERYTHING has to be put into a category. Doing that only makes it easier to "point and laugh". When in reality, it is those people who are insecure because just like Jason said, they feel threatened. It's sad.

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Originally posted by mizzuno really and who sets that threshold? Mizz

such thresholds are determined by generally accepted cultural norms.

A metrosexual is a man who plucks their eye brows like a girl, and has a shitty hair cut.

This is an excellent example:

I don't think it's necessarily about feeling threatened, per se. Yes, people do put others into categories because it makes it easier to laugh, but this is also how the human mind works; we schematize everything. It makes it easier for us to talk about things by forming a common idea as social beings.

Now, as far as metrosexuals adopting the qualities of homosexuals, I think this is a two fold reaction. One is in the name, as homosexuality seems to be a common social term, while heterosexuality is not: heterosexuality appears to be "normal" and thus lacks a need for a name. Secondly, traditional men aren't supposed to spend their time primping and making their apperance desireable. They are supposed to be naturally attractive and strong. However, you could certainly make the case that working out is a form of "putting on makeup" for men, though more permanenent, of course.

In any case, I've got nothing against the whole metro idea, and I've definitely adapted some of the characteristics myself. But you won't find me picking out makeup or trying to color coordinate my home. I know by instinct if I like how something looks, be it clothing, home furnishing or a mating partner, and thats how I make my decisions: not through the "study" of these areas.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard such thresholds are determined by generally accepted cultural norms.

generally acceptable has no inherent timeframe, social norms change...
plus i'm not one to adhere to social norms..
Mizz

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Originally posted by mizzuno generally acceptable has no inherent timeframe, social norms change... plus i'm not one to adhere to social norms.. Mizz

I don't think hes claiming that the definition can't change. Metrosexuality clearly doesn't have a static definition, in the way that heterosexuality, for instance, does.

And your adherence to social norms is irrelevant . No one likes to admit to adhering to these norms...i wonder why that is....

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Originally posted by tribu I don't think hes claiming that the definition can't change. Metrosexuality clearly doesn't have a static definition, in the way that heterosexuality, for instance, does. And your adherence to social norms is irrelevant . No one likes to admit to adhering to these norms...i wonder why that is....

i beg to differ, peoples thresholds are all different, there is not some blue book of thresholds for metro sexuality

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Originally posted by mizzuno i beg to differ, peoples thresholds are all different, there is not some blue book of thresholds for metro sexuality

But if you polled all of a certain population aware of the term, chances are there are several traits that they would define aqcross the board as strictly metrosexual or non-metrosexual. For example, you would probably find that close attetnion to and primping of one's hair is a trait commonly attributed to the generic metrosexual. Drinkey whiskey straight, for example, is something you might find a population deems as non-metrosexual. It's impossibe to describe these things as a threshold, because there is no scale: it is merely a collection of traits and behaviors.

Keep in mind, I'm speaking with a population smaller than mankind as a whole. I think you would find it difficult to define exactly across mankind's spectrum.

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