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the Marlins fire sale is on

Mets get Delgado, trading Jacobs (who I liked) and Petit
Earlier, they traded Mike Cameron to the Padres for Xavier Nady
Things are looking good (but expensive) so far in the quest for Billy Wagner, with a 4-year offer on the table

Red Sox get Beckett and Lowell, for their other Ramirez (Hanley, a SS prospect) and a minor-league pitcher

what will Ca$hman do?

Yay.

Billy Wagner has signed with the Mets!

too bad for the Yanks that BJ Ryan signed with the Blue Jays
They'll probably also lose Tom Gordon, if a team signs him to be their closer

You bitch! I was just coming here to post that!

Wow. Go Mets!

And don't forget, they also got Tike Redman! Wagner and Redman in the same day... can it get any better!?

Now please... No Manny! And no Soriano!!! Fill second base with an in-house option or Hudson/Lugo/Castillo. Then round out the pen with Dotel or someone like that. Bingo!!!

Mets give another mid-thirties pitcher one too many years

heh randy johnson in his 40s? sorry

Its not hot stove 2004

Looks like Yanks will be getting Kyle Farnsworth to set up for Mo

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Originally posted by TranceHater Its not hot stove 2004

good one. still applies

Tom Gordon going to the Phillies

Instead of Molina or Hernandez, Mets choose Paul LoDuca to be Piazza's successor behind the plate.

Yanks need Juan Pieere

Juan Pierre isn't that good.

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Originally posted by TranceHater Yanks need Juan Pieere

Ive been saying for the longest time that the Yanks will get Juan to play center field.

he would be the yanks 1st legit leadoff hitter since knoblauh which they need, he did have an off year but i think jeter would be better in the 2 hole anyway

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Originally posted by TranceHater he would be the yanks 1st legit leadoff hitter since knoblauh which they need, he did have an off year but i think jeter would be better in the 2 hole anyway

How about their first legit CF since...... DiMaggio? They have never really had a threat at CF.

Say what? What the hell is Bernie Williams?

.305/.391/.535
.328/.408/.544
.339/.422/.575
.342/.435/.536
.307/.391/.566
.307/.395/.522
.333/.415/.493

What more could you want offensively out of your CF?

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Say what? What the hell is Bernie Williams? .305/.391/.535 .328/.408/.544 .339/.422/.575 .342/.435/.536 .307/.391/.566 .307/.395/.522 .333/.415/.493 What more could you want offensively out of your CF?

Its not the offense, its the defense. When teams play the Yankees, being on 2nd base, is just as good as being on 3rd on a single to CF.

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Originally posted by Vlad How about their first legit CF since...... DiMaggio? They have never really had a threat at CF.

are we forgetting mickey mantle? oy

And Bernie Williams was an above average defender in CF for a while...

And Juan Pierre is NOT all he's cracked up to be defensively. Sure, he's fast. But he's no Beltran/Cameron/Kotsay out there.

Blue Jays win the AJ Burnett sweepstakes

Grady Little is back... as manager of the Dodgers

Juan Pierre ends up with the Cubs

Yanks get another former Red Sox player, lefty specialist reliever Mike Myers

Mets sign 47-year-old Julio Franco

Alas I make my return with more baseball talk...

Unless you're getting a good defensive CF who puts up offensive numbers comparing to Derek Jeter, then I just prefer Jeter leading off. Look at the comparison between Johnny Damon (considered the prototypical leadoff hitter):

Runs Walks OBP SLG OPS
Jeter 119 71 .391 .445 .846
Damon 115 52 .367 .441 .805

Juan Pierre had an OBP of .320. Bleh. And his arm is just as weak as Bernie Williams. Which is stronger than Johnny Damon's. Having watched 40 Yankee games in person (mostly in RF bleachers), I don't want to have to painfully watch balls roll into the cutoff man from CF. I just don't. Yanks never had any real interest in Pierre and I'm happy about that.

A guy like Aaron Rowand would have been perfect if the Phillies didn't steal him away already.

I might be the only Yankee fan who isn't bothered by the slow activity of this offseason. Better than signing free agent busts for a lot of money who you later can't trade. Looking at the Red Sux of dumping Edgar Renteria. Look at Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright, the two big free agent acquisitions. There isn't a lot of good free agents this year and the Yanks really only want a CF and bullpen guys.

It's a nice change of pace where the Yankees just don't chase the tail of the moves that the Red Sux and the Mets make. I honestly can say that it looks at though Cashman is really controlling the ship this offseason and I'm quite happy about that.

I want a CF to play defense cuz Sheff and Matsui need a guy that will "steal" balls from them (cuz they are both below average fielders).

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Originally posted by Member of X It's a nice change of pace where the Yankees just don't chase the tail of the moves that the Red Sux and the Mets make. I honestly can say that it looks at though Cashman is really controlling the ship this offseason and I'm quite happy about that.

I disagree here. I think the Yankees/Steinbrenner are finally seeing that the 200$M payroll isn't working to well. It may have started last year with not signing Carlos Beltran. Think about it. They knew they would need a CF. The premier FA last year was a CF. And they didn't get him. Just a thought...

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Originally posted by partyhopper Blue Jays win the AJ Burnett sweepstakes Grady Little is back... as manager of the Dodgers

I didnt know hot stove involved managers. Grady Little =Forrest Gump

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