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Posted by tatgirl on Dec-01-2005 05:06:

Homolka a 'free bird'

Surprised no one has brought this up yet...

STORY

Its bad enough she got the most lenient sentence by playing 'innocent victim' when she wasn't, its even worse that they took her probationary conditions off, not even a full 5 mos of her being out of jail. Any hope of her screwing up, where we can send her back for a probation violation are gone now. I hope that judge gets a pipe bomb in his mailbox by tomorrow morning.

Posted by geroin on Dec-01-2005 06:50:

pictures of homolka performing oral sex on the judge should surface the web anytime soon

Posted by MarkT on Dec-01-2005 09:33:

as much as it nauseates me to see Homolka free...I don't think the judge can really be faulted for removing the conditions. Though I wish there were some legally justifiable reason to at least be able to formally monitor her general whereabouts, she did serve her sentence.

Our overall legal system is flawed in that she was able to get off relatively easily despite the depraved nature of her crimes

Posted by Playa24_7 on Dec-01-2005 11:46:

you know what the fuckin problem is!??? MALE JUDGES!!!!!!!!!

we need more FEMALE judges!
I dont care what you say, they usually are ALOT harder on criminals, especially on things like sex crimes and such.

ALSO, judges should be voted in, and held accountable for dicisions they make!

"Justice James Brunton of Quebec Superior Court acknowledged in his ruling the possibility that Homolka, who now goes by the name Karla Leanne Teale, could reoffend one day."

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!1 WHY ARE YOU LETTING HER OFF WITH THIS DICISIONS THEN!!?!??! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

does the judge even know what she did to these girls with Paul Bernardo??!! this is crazy. she has no rights, shes obviously seriously fucked up. why should we give her rights when the two people that died because of what she helped do, no longer have rights, becuase they are DEAD!!!

this pisses me right the frig off

Posted by Dancing*Queen on Dec-01-2005 12:09:

How do you acknowledge she could reoffend any day and then let her go??? There is something seriously wrong with that.

I have been following this story since the beginning trials and there are so many things along the way that the juducial system has messed up on that this is a surprise but not at the same time.

I feel for the French and Mahaffy families....justice has definately let them down

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-01-2005 13:06:

By lifting the conditions she doesn't have the protection against the media or anything else. She will now be easily located and probably killed within a year.

Posted by DigDeep on Dec-01-2005 13:28:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
pictures of homolka performing oral sex on the judge should surface the web anytime soon

Posted by Dancing*Queen on Dec-01-2005 13:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
By lifting the conditions she doesn't have the protection against the media or anything else. She will now be easily located and probably killed within a year.

true, I forgot all about that....

Posted by DigDeep on Dec-01-2005 13:50:

Posted by Abercrombie on Dec-01-2005 15:15:

Actually, female judges would be MORE LENIENT on her. Only a woman knows what a battered and manipulated wife could go through. However, we do have the killer in jail for life, Paul Bernardo. She was not imprisoned for killing the girls, but her role in the killing of girls. This is fact. If it wasn't for her coming forward to the police, the scarborough killer and the killer of the girls may not have ever been cought. I agree it was 'a deal with the devil', but it's common practice to use a smaller fish in order to get the biggest one, otherwise there wouldn't be such thing as police informants.

But don't get me wrong, I feel extremely sorry for the French and Mahaffy families, their loss is extremely saddening.

But the media are milking this story for all it's got. It gets ratings, and sells more commercials. Coles notes isn't as good as reading the book.

Posted by mushyflowa on Dec-01-2005 15:33:

quote:
does the judge even know what she did to these girls with Paul Bernardo??!! this is crazy. she has no rights, shes obviously seriously fucked up. why should we give her rights when the two people that died because of what she helped do, no longer have rights, becuase they are DEAD!!!

this pisses me right the frig off

Posted by Irishaddict on Dec-01-2005 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
However, we do have the killer in jail for life, Paul Bernardo. She was not imprisoned for killing the girls, but her role in the killing of girls. This is fact. If it wasn't for her coming forward to the police, the scarborough killer and the killer of the girls may not have ever been cought. I agree it was 'a deal with the devil', but it's common practice to use a smaller fish in order to get the biggest one, otherwise there wouldn't be such thing as police informants.

But don't get me wrong, I feel extremely sorry for the French and Mahaffy families, their loss is extremely saddening.

But the media are milking this story for all it's got. It gets ratings, and sells more commercials. Coles notes isn't as good as reading the book.

Being from St. Catharines, my hometown is forever scarred because of this couple. What they did was inexplicably wrong, no one is going to argue that. No one is going to deny Karla's involvement in it either. The extent of her "guilt" is another question altogether.

The Canadian justice system is flawed yes, this isn't any huge news development by far. It's been the undercurrent for many many years of legal proceedings. Karla Homolka is certainly not the only case where people have stepped back and said, "There's something wrong here." Does anyone remember Guy Paul Morin?

I'm sure Karla will have a hand worse than life-time imprisonment dealt to her. After all, 3 meals a day and a warm bed to sleep in doesn't really strike me as "punishment."

And as reiterated many times throughout this thread, I feel desperately sorry for the French and Mahaffy families. No one can know pain like theirs.

Posted by zokissima on Dec-01-2005 17:27:

I cannot understand how the probation conditions were lifted a mere 5 months after her release. Absolutely ridiculous.
Since justice was not served as is deserving of this crime and criminal, I certainly do hope that vigilantism wreaks sweet revenge and deals vengeful justice to this sick person.

Posted by TheVrk on Dec-01-2005 17:38:

Re: Homolka a 'free bird'

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
I hope that judge gets a pipe bomb in his mailbox by tomorrow morning.

C'mon Nat, thats not nice

Don't worry, Homolka will get what's coming to her

Posted by tatgirl on Dec-01-2005 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
I cannot understand how the probation conditions were lifted a mere 5 months after her release. Absolutely ridiculous.
Since justice was not served as is deserving of this crime and criminal, I certainly do hope that vigilantism wreaks sweet revenge and deals vengeful justice to this sick person.

+ 1,000,000,000.
Any other two-bit criminal spends more time on probation for lesser crimes. She should at least be forced to register as a sex offender. This is a travesty.

Posted by Beach420 on Dec-01-2005 17:41:

Both her and paul are completely fucked!! Seeing pictures of her on the news when she was first released looking into her eyes you can see something isnt right. You can tell a lot about a person through their eyes, and frankly what i see is a women who is completely mentally unstable and who could snap any minute.

Posted by tatgirl on Dec-01-2005 17:45:

Re: Re: Homolka a 'free bird'

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
C'mon Nat, thats not nice

Don't worry, Homolka will get what's coming to her

I dunno... will she? Surely if she were a man, no guy would think twice about vigilantism, but a woman? Most men would have a problem setting out to kill or maim her, and women on the whole would never do such a thing, unless it was personal. Only way I see this happening is if a mob went after her.

You know her new last name, Teale, is taken from a serial killer in a movie? Rehabilitated my ass.

Posted by ghetto_fab on Dec-01-2005 18:44:

I think she should have been in jail a lot longer its pathetic they let her out she wont last very long outside of jail even if she has a new identity

Posted by Yohan on Dec-01-2005 19:27:

Heh. Now that everyone knows her new ID, it'll be matter of time before someone knocks on her door one day.

Posted by Abercrombie on Dec-01-2005 19:35:

Teale a new name??? She's had it for years.

Posted by failsafe on Dec-01-2005 20:41:

Abercrombie: the cops had already caught the duo before she gave up any info. She made a plea bargin to save her ass, giving the videotape for her freedom. It's not like she came to them before they were busted. A side note: paul was the scarborough rapist, not the killer.

She was the one that drugged her own sister which caused her death directly. So I don't understand how anyone can say she wasn't directly involved with killing. She may not have been the one that dealt the death blow to kristen or leslie, but it's unquestionable with regards to her sister.

Posted by Refinnej on Dec-01-2005 21:41:

My question to the judge would be: Would you let Karla be friends with your OWN children?

In my opinion, the nut is a sexual saddist as much as Bernardo or even more than him. I hope for the rest of her life she is shunned by society and harrassed and receives death threats. Her lawyer said on CBC last night that she "served her time". and that she passed all of her psychological evaluations while in prison and since she was let out in July. WTF???!!! Either she is a really good liar or the tests really need to be revised!
Once again, a criminal gets a slap on the wrist and walks away.

Posted by Abercrombie on Dec-01-2005 22:12:

quote:
failsafe the cops had already caught the duo before she gave up any info. She made a plea bargin to save her ass, giving the videotape for her freedom. It's not like she came to them before they were busted.

Wrong: She came to the cops after she was badly beaten and abused by him. Check your source.

Wrong: Karla didn't give the videotapes, Paul Bernardo did through his lawyer by telling them where they were hidden (through the lamp, and reaching deep in the bathroom ceiling) after her plea bargain.

quote:
Refinnej My question to the judge would be: Would you let Karla be friends with your OWN children?

Answer: Having any grown woman be friends with children is a mental problem. She should get friends her own age. But I know what you meant. I would not let Karla be alone with my children. There's a lot of people I know well and personally I would not let alone with my children. It doesn't mean the people I know personally well should be locked up in prison.

Remember, I feel for ALL the victims' families, and I grieved with them. I'm not necessarily supporting Karla. What she did was atrocious. I am saddenned however that no one is criticizing Paul, and how good he has it in his own private bubble with his own TV, without any fear of dropping the soap in the prison shower, because he's segregated. I feel he got a better sentence than he deserved, and I as a taxpayer, pay to keep him away from the other prisoners. But of course, reporting on this won't sell papers nor advertizing space.

Posted by nacarter on Dec-01-2005 22:46:

I'm know this post will just beg to be flamed

Although Karla Homolka/Teale's crimes are repugnant and she is deserving of a longer sentence, the Appeals Court judge did not error in his ruling.

We have to remember that most of what is in the public domain about Karla Homolka is inadmissable in this case. She has never been charged with a sex crime, therefore there is no obligation for her to register with the Sex Offenders Registry.

Homolka is not on parole. She served her sentence and based on the reports of prison officials (the only reports that count in this matter), she was a relatively model prisoner, and Section 810 restrictions are unwarranted.

Most on the board would argue that Section 810 restrictions were created for convicts like Homolka. What a lot of people don't understand is that if 810 was subjected to a Charter challenge, the Supreme Court would likely overturn it. It's a punitive measure that violates our right against unlawful imprisonment and cruel and unusual punishment.

The question that critics of this ruling (almost everybody)should be asking, is why has Attorney General Michael Bryant refused to prosecute Homolka on the outstanding charges related to her sister's death? Yes, the plea agreement protected her against prosecution for further crimes, however there is no law that prevents the Crown from opening this case up again.

Legal convention is the hurdle in this case because of the difficulty in obtaining cooperation in future major investigations. The public interest however, should justify further prosecution. If Homolka were to be convicted again, there is no doubt that she would be declared a Dangerous Offender and imprisoned indefinitely.

Posted by nacarter on Dec-01-2005 22:47:

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