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Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 19:58:

my computer turns itself off :(

my computer keeps turning itself off... like every other off it just says pow, and dies.. its hella annoying... ive been monitoring the cpu temp for a day now, and its not going too high... any1 have any suggestions? ive checked for spyware and viruses, but nothing new..


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:02:

oh and yeah.. this is what im running:

Processor: P4 3,2 Ghz
Motherboard: MSI V-Class 865PE Neo2-V
RAM: 1024 DDR-Dimm
Hard Drive 1: 40 gig 7200 rpm
Hard Drive 2: 250 gig 7200 rpm
Sound Card: (Still) AC97 Onboard Crap
Video Card: Geforce 3
Operating System: Windows XP Pro
Cd Drive: Sony Something DVD-R/RW
Case: Thermaltake XaserII with large window on left side with blacklight catodes


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-21-2006 20:03:

sounds like you need a new cd drive!


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
sounds like you need a new cd drive!


why? i just bought it like two weeks ago... installed it last monday..

u think that has something to do with it?


Posted by Coup on Jan-21-2006 20:05:

you've missed off the most vital component in this situation, the Power Supply Unit (PSU) details..


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-21-2006 20:11:

How does it die, exactly?


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:14:

oh yeah sorry... good thing i have that window on the side so i can just read what the label says:P

Super Flower
model no: SF-320TS(320W)
ive had it for like two or three years.. too old?

maybe its bcus i have like eight fans in here?


Posted by weymouth on Jan-21-2006 20:15:

check your ram


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:20:

it sits nicely in its place... and when running sisoft sandra it reads 1024, so they (2x512) should be working all right, right?


Posted by arturob on Jan-21-2006 20:20:

too little power supply for p4 3,2ghz

processor could be overheating,,, and this will cause the system to reboot. faulty ram will make the system crash most likely.


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by arturob
too little power supply for p4 3,2ghz


well, its been working flawlessly (sp?) for half a year+ now tho...
and as i said, i havent seen the cpu temp go above 60 degrees celsius.. right now its at a normal (?) 51... and its not rebooting.. just turning itself off and i have to manually turn it on...


Posted by Coup on Jan-21-2006 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
oh yeah sorry... good thing i have that window on the side so i can just read what the label says:P

Super Flower
model no: SF-320TS(320W)
ive had it for like two or three years.. too old?

maybe its bcus i have like eight fans in here?

This link here - http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp will calculate ur PC wattage consumption. Every rating is for the components max rating, and ur PC wont be using all its components at max rating, but if u use the max it means u wont have a PSU thats weaker than what ur PC needs.

I calculated ur PC between the 300 - 350 mark. Which, if u agree to that, u need a PSU in around the 400 mark. I also dont believe that Super Flower is a quality model, but id have to check that.

My PC draws around 278W according to that link, and i have an Antec True Power 480W, which is a top quality PSU. Mainly for 2 reasons, future room for upgrades or to even reuse in a new PC, but mainly the unwritten rule is u give ur PSU alot of headway between what ur PC draws and its max capability.

See what u get..


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
This link here - http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp will calculate ur PC wattage consumption. Every rating is for the components max rating, and ur PC wont be using all its components at max rating, but if u use the max it means u wont have a PSU thats weaker than what ur PC needs.

I calculated ur PC between the 300 - 350 mark. Which, if u agree to that, u need a PSU in around the 400 mark. I also dont believe that Super Flower is a quality model, but id have to check that.

My PC draws around 278W according to that link, and i have an Antec True Power 480W, which is a top quality PSU. Mainly for 2 reasons, future room for upgrades or to even reuse in a new PC, but mainly the unwritten rule is u give ur PSU alot of headway between what ur PC draws and its max capability.

See what u get..


i got 268, and thats including the frontbay lcd/fan controller which isnt hooked up atm.... .so 320 should in theory do... but ive been thinking of getting a new one anyways, cus its kinda noisy, and i want more shit in my computer...


Posted by Coup on Jan-21-2006 20:42:

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.c...aysprune=&f=231

This forum here is excellent, and aslong as you are polite, the memebers there will help you no end with any questions for this or your PSU.

But if u want to expand that PC, or get a new one, that PSU wont cut it.

U have tried a fresh install of windows to make sure MS isnt at fault?


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.c...aysprune=&f=231

This forum here is excellent, and aslong as you are polite, the memebers there will help you no end with any questions for this or your PSU.

But if u want to expand that PC, or get a new one, that PSU wont cut it.

U have tried a fresh install of windows to make sure MS isnt at fault?


no i havent tried.. omg, cant be arsed to install everything again 8I

but yeah.. im considering buying a new psu.. cheers for the heads up on that forum.


Posted by Coup on Jan-21-2006 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
no i havent tried.. omg, cant be arsed to install everything again 8I

but yeah.. im considering buying a new psu.. cheers for the heads up on that forum.

u could (if u had about 10 gig to spare) make a new partition and install XP again on a dual boot and see how stable it is, then just format it and merge the free space back into your existing partition...?


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Coup sounds like he is right on, do the windows reinstall first to see if thats the issue, but then think about a new power supply. Im running the same model PSU as Coup but the 550watt model after I had a 350 and a fourth hard drive ended up causing my PSU to spike and fry the mobo and I think also the RAM.

Also if you have SMART enabled hard drives then get some software to check to see if they are reporting anything odd.

In your BIOS set quick post to off to force your bios to do a in depth scan of your ram when it boots too, just to make sure its ok.


well, i kinda know theyre working cus im running CPUCool, and it says 600 mb RAM available...

EDIT: OMG NOU AND COUP AGREES ON SOMETHING!!


Posted by jupiterone on Jan-21-2006 22:07:

my pc did that when i had only 300ps...now i got 450


Posted by Marc Summers on Jan-21-2006 22:21:

format


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-21-2006 22:36:

well, come to think of it, it reacts the very same way it does when a fuse pops or the power goes, eg. i have to turn off the powerbutton. pull out the chord, plug in again, turn on button, before i can push the power button in front...

so what i am looking at now is;

Tagan i-Xeye 420W
Thermaltake Silent Purepower 460W
Tagan Easycon 430W

anybody have any comments on these psu's?


Posted by igottaknow on Jan-22-2006 00:13:

in soviet russia my computer turns YOU on


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-22-2006 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Thermaltake is the only company i recognize on there...


hehe.. i was just checking the site where i always buy my stuff... these where the ones that seemed best in their price range ($70-80]


Posted by weymouth on Jan-22-2006 01:23:

Switch up the ram chips so that only one of the 512s are in there. See if the problem goes away. I have found that most people that have computer restart problems have bad ram. The power-supply is also an option but before you go out and buy a new one play with the ram.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jan-22-2006 02:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
format


that's a funy suggestion, almost as close to a suggestion of playing the beat to the song 'Southern Sun' with the ALT-CTRL-DELETE keys.


Posted by Coup on Jan-22-2006 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
well, come to think of it, it reacts the very same way it does when a fuse pops or the power goes, eg. i have to turn off the powerbutton. pull out the chord, plug in again, turn on button, before i can push the power button in front...

so what i am looking at now is;

Tagan i-Xeye 420W
Thermaltake Silent Purepower 460W
Tagan Easycon 430W

anybody have any comments on these psu's?

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.c...ad.php?t=136602

That thread above has great guide on power supply units, whats good and whats not. From my knowledge, Thermaltake make crap PSU's.

Without going into business quality (which cost alot), OCZ Powerstream & Antec True Power are the end user consumer favourites. OCZ have a longer warrenty & better voltage regulation ('''technically'''), but cost more, where as Antec voltage regulation is still within specification, but warrenty is 3 years not 5.

I personally use Antec True Power in the PC's i build, and have one in the PC i use now. I tested my voltage rails with a digital multimeter and none of my rails fluctuated more than 0.01v which is well within specification. full results in this thread - http://forums.extremeoverclocking.c...ad.php?t=149078

hope this helps.


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