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What will fuel our people...
What do you think will fuel the United States citizens to say, "Enough is enough", and start a revolt?
I'm not talking about now. I am talking about the future.
Martial law? Change of government(ex: dictatorship)?
Personally, I don't think the public has the balls to "Call to arms" if something serious happens.
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers What do you think will fuel the United States citizens to say, "Enough is enough", and start a revolt? I'm not talking about now. I am talking about the future. Martial law? Change of government(ex: dictatorship)? Personally, I don't think the public has the balls to "Call to arms" if something serious happens. |
I think those days are gone. If the British were running the U.S. right now we would have never declared our independence and gone to war. We don't have that spark in us anymore. We are too scared to upset the status quo and would rather see all our rights taken from us in order to hold on to our lifestyles. It's sad but it's true.
I totally agree with you both. I mean, we see countries revolt at the drop of a hat. But I don't even think the rise of the nazi party could cause the people to even consider to start throwing elbows.
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| IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. |
Ty for posting that, I was going to do the same, but got lazy.
We have a right to do it, but people participating in revolts I doubt are concerned with the legality of it.
Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it�s just a goddamned piece of paper
George W. Bush
A dictatorship would be a heck-of a lot easier; as long as I'm dictator
George W. Bush
There ought to be limits to freedom
George W. Bush
The Constitution is an outdated document
Alberto Gonzales
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it�s just a goddamned piece of paper George W. Bush A dictatorship would be a heck-of a lot easier; as long as I'm dictator George W. Bush There ought to be limits to freedom George W. Bush The Constitution is an outdated document Alberto Gonzales |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers lol, if you are complaining now, you need to live a little. We have it good, comparing to most other countries. |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers lol, if you are complaining now, you need to live a little. We have it good, comparing to most other countries. |
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| Originally posted by Groundhog Boy That attitude's the problem with our country right now. People fought for those freedoms and we're pissing them away because we're afraid of the terrorists. We should be more afraid of what our future holds as our rights erode away. |
The truth is US citizens are very comfortable and attached to their current lifestyles. They don't want to do anything that will risk them. Subsequently, there will be no real action against the trend of deminishing freedoms so long as the people can maintain a level of comfort similar to what they have now. By the time the US government has taken enough of the citizens' rights and freedoms away that the populace is actually moved to resist it will be far too late as they will already have given up the tools needed to exercise their resistance.
The sad truth is the US is a society (although certainly not the only one) that celebrates ignorance and indifference for the masses with regard to politics. When the electorate of a state doesn't care about or understand politics democracy simply doesn't work.
Our rights will just fade away and people will never care.
Hell just read some of the remarks here and other forums for proof. Heres one I read at another site that says it all>>:
Link
I personaly could care less what uncle sam does. I personaly also disagree and don;t wnat to be spied on, but as long as they keep the commies out of my backyard, I don't care. I am personaly strongly against Bush. However, I am under the impression that good people have nothing to fear and that bad ones do.
Good people don;t go home and talk to their cousin about overthrowing governments or blowing up world trade centers. Bad people do and this is how you catch them.
It takes a weasel to catch a rat, and that's exactly what GW Bush is. We all elected his monkey ass....
The war on terror is a great exuse to pump money into agencies that were dying financialy. As long as they come up with a cure for cancer and still allow me to own guns 12 years from now I don't give a good damn what they do with my tax money. (lower gas prices would be nice too, but i wont ask for too much)
CIA, FBI, NSA, IRS... All are just ackronyms that take my tax money and nothing less. You wanna know what america's problem is????
People like me.. and there are a lot of people who feel just like i do.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 3, 2006 03:29 PM
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| ...but as long as they keep the commies out of my backyard, I don't care... |
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 Not at all complaining. Just pointing out what was said. If I can come up with some democratic party quotes I would in a heartbeat. 1900's Communists 2000's Terrorists Same old boogeyman. |
I can't believe this shit hasn't happened already. I'm so sick of lies already.
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. |
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| Originally posted by The Greek I think those days are gone. If the British were running the U.S. right now we would have never declared our independence and gone to war. We don't have that spark in us anymore. We are too scared to upset the status quo and would rather see all our rights taken from us in order to hold on to our lifestyles. It's sad but it's true. |
American gladiator will fuel our people.
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Can you really compare the two as the, "Same old boogeyman" other than them both being on the wrong side? They're completely different IMHO. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard The truth is US citizens are very comfortable and attached to their current lifestyles. They don't want to do anything that will risk them. Subsequently, there will be no real action against the trend of deminishing freedoms so long as the people can maintain a level of comfort similar to what they have now. By the time the US government has taken enough of the citizens' rights and freedoms away that the populace is actually moved to resist it will be far too late as they will already have given up the tools needed to exercise their resistance. The sad truth is the US is a society (although certainly not the only one) that celebrates ignorance and indifference for the masses with regard to politics. When the electorate of a state doesn't care about or understand politics democracy simply doesn't work. |
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| Originally posted by stevieboy32808 Great post, but unfortunately I'm going to have to agree with him |
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 Doesn't matter who the boogeyman is just as long as they can come up with a boogeyman. There's always gonna be a bad guy to point the finger at. |
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 What makes you think that the ties that bind were ever severed? |
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| Originally posted by stevieboy32808 Even if we did have the 'spark' to revolt we could not overpower our government. The U.S. spends the most money in our military than any other country in the world. I imagine our government has a hell of an arsenal just in case this revolt ever happens. |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers That's if the military follows our government. I honestly can't see American Soldiers firing on American Citizens. I think they would drop their guns, and refuse. At least some of them. And yes, I know about the vietnam protests, but this would be different. |
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| Originally posted by stevieboy32808 Oh my goodness, how stupid am I. I never thought of it in that way! |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers I offended you, sorry. |
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| Originally posted by ogvh5150 ^^^^^^^^ Doesn't speak for this American. So don't assume he knows them all. |
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