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Posted by colibri on Mar-31-2006 21:19:

:(

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060331..._us/city_coyote


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Mar-31-2006 21:23:

Sad

That is sad!!!!

Let's all take a moment for Hal!!


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Mar-31-2006 21:28:

You guys really need to get out of the city for a bit and realize that all animals aren't pets.

Coyotes have done considerable damage to pretty much every other animal population near my family's camp in PA as their population has continued to rise. They've done a pretty good job decimating the turkey population that used to be plentiful as well as preying on young deer. Also, there's pretty much no snowshoe hares left, too.

So if you like those cute, cuddly animals, you should realize that having coyotes in NYC is not so great.


Posted by colibri on Mar-31-2006 21:35:

^

stfu hunter boy do you know what manhattan used to
look like 543 yrs ago one day you wont see any trees
in the planethanks to all of us...


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Mar-31-2006 21:40:

Re: ^

quote:
Originally posted by colibri
stfu hunter boy do you know what manhattan used to
look like 543 yrs ago one day you wont see any trees
in the planethanks to all of us...

You do realize that if it weren't humans killing everything off, it'd just be a different predator, right.


Posted by phoenixBEBE on Mar-31-2006 21:43:

awww but still

too bad there were complications after the coyote got tranquilized. its just sad, no matter wut animal it was. they would have probably just returned it to the wild or the zoo


Posted by colibri on Mar-31-2006 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
it'd just be a different predator


pal the distinction is that hunting for sport/fun is
very insensitive it is too simple if you need the
excilaration of pure hunting go to a jungle and try
to fight a gorilla or leopard empty handed i am sure
you are a coward but of course a silver rifle gives
you a fake sense of power you'll never have in
comparison to those fantastic animals and yeah the
drive and curiosity of the coyote was exceptional
and ispiring


Posted by SidMl on Mar-31-2006 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Coyotes have done considerable damage to pretty much every other animal population near my family's camp in PA as their population has continued to rise. They've done a pretty good job decimating the turkey population that used to be plentiful as well as preying on young deer. Also, there's pretty much no snowshoe hares left, too.

So if you like those cute, cuddly animals, you should realize that having coyotes in NYC is not so great.


They are dangerous!! Especially this one:


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Mar-31-2006 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
You guys really need to get out of the city for a bit and realize that all animals aren't pets.

Coyotes have done considerable damage to pretty much every other animal population near my family's camp in PA as their population has continued to rise. They've done a pretty good job decimating the turkey population that used to be plentiful as well as preying on young deer. Also, there's pretty much no snowshoe hares left, too.

So if you like those cute, cuddly animals, you should realize that having coyotes in NYC is not so great.



Seriously....I mean that seriously, OMG...ok calms down. Get out of the city, I grew up in an area that is more country then you can even think. I understand all that shit you where saying, stop being negative, an animal died, get over it and have a heart and be a little upset that's all we are saying. Jesus, I guess that order my "pet" coyote shoule be cancelled. whatever


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Mar-31-2006 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
Seriously....I mean that seriously, OMG...ok calms down. Get out of the city, I grew up in an area that is more country then you can even think. I understand all that shit you where saying, stop being negative, an animal died, get over it and have a heart and be a little upset that's all we are saying. Jesus, I guess that order my "pet" coyote shoule be cancelled. whatever

I'm not upset about it. I just can't believe we have a thread to mourn the loss of a coyote, which while being a clever and cunning animal, is still a predator that if kept unchecked, would kill any small animal that it could.

It's also funny that you told me "an animal died, get over it" because that's exactly the first thought i had when i read this thread.


Posted by DJ A.K on Mar-31-2006 22:24:

The remnants of the Guiliani administration have identified that the death of this coyote is clearly connected to the underground club culture and has decided to shut down Pacha and Crobar to prevent this from happening again. But on the bright side, Cascada's coming back to Webster Hall soon! Holla back Lee Hotti!


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Mar-31-2006 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by colibri
pal the distinction is that hunting for sport/fun is
very insensitive it is too simple if you need the
excilaration of pure hunting go to a jungle and try
to fight a gorilla or leopard empty handed i am sure
you are a coward but of course a silver rifle gives
you a fake sense of power you'll never have in
comparison to those fantastic animals and yeah the
drive and curiosity of the coyote was exceptional
and ispiring

Are you kidding? Do you understand anything about Darwinism or the concept of "survival of the fittest." Animals like tigers, lions, coyotes, wolves, etc. used to kill humans all the time. Then people figured out how to make that happen less by creating tools to protect themselves.

Maybe the animals should be smart enough to learn how to use tools, then it wouldn't be so easy for us to kill them and we'd stop. Would it be better if I stalked a deer and killed it with my bare hands so it suffers more when I snap it's neck or stabbed it with a rock/knife? That's the way it used to be done before people invented the bow & arrow, then guns. While you may think guns give an unfair advantage, it also makes the kill more humane.

Also, you have no idea what motives I had when hunting. The actual act of killing isn't the pinacle of the experience and I've eaten everything I've ever shot and you know what, venison is damn tasty.

I don't mind the fact that you don't hunt and you care about animals, but I'm not particularly a fan of being called a coward or being told "stfu, hunter boy." My original response was intended to provoke thought about why you have a problem with one type of predator (humans) and not another (coyotes). Both do their fair share of killing other animals.


Posted by colibri on Mar-31-2006 22:48:

flabbergasted at youresponse hunter kid...

unlike animals, humans are the ultimate living creation;
yet, as we've seen in history we only care about ourselves
without any regard tour neighbors even less tour ecosystems


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Mar-31-2006 23:13:

Re: flabbergasted at youresponse hunter kid...

quote:
Originally posted by colibri
unlike animals, humans are the ultimate living creation;
yet, as we've seen in history we only care about ourselves
without regard to our neighbors even less to our ecosystems

I'm done arguing, because this isn't the political discussion forum. If you'd like to continue, move it over there.

I will say that your response above isn't really related to hunters, though, as a lot of hunters in this country contribute significantly to environmental preservation, whether it's from donating to environmental charities or by effort like planting trees, creating brushpiles for habitat, etc. Even though you'd like to demonize me for hunting, I'm willing to bet that I've done more environmental preservation/growth acts than the vast majority of others my age who consider themselves environmentalists.


Posted by Highmay on Mar-31-2006 23:27:

Does anyone but me else find this thread hilarious?? I'm dying over here...




Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Mar-31-2006 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I'm not upset about it. I just can't believe we have a thread to mourn the loss of a coyote, which while being a clever and cunning animal, is still a predator that if kept unchecked, would kill any small animal that it could.

It's also funny that you told me "an animal died, get over it" because that's exactly the first thought i had when i read this thread.


Congrats on twistin my words and leavin out everything I said....I beleive the rest of the quote was "have a heart".....LOL


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Mar-31-2006 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
Congrats on twistin my words and leavin out everything I said....I beleive the rest of the quote was "have a heart".....LOL

You know me better than that.


Posted by EliPsE on Apr-01-2006 01:44:

Theres coyotes and bobcats in my woods, kinda scary.


Posted by DJ Eco on Apr-01-2006 03:43:

people are killed and raped every day in this big city, wheres their posts?! hehe sorry... im just the animal-hater type, ill be completely honest


Posted by KeSs on Apr-01-2006 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
You guys really need to get out of the city for a bit and realize that all animals aren't pets.

Coyotes have done considerable damage to pretty much every other animal population near my family's camp in PA as their population has continued to rise. They've done a pretty good job decimating the turkey population that used to be plentiful as well as preying on young deer. Also, there's pretty much no snowshoe hares left, too.

So if you like those cute, cuddly animals, you should realize that having coyotes in NYC is not so great.


STFU


Posted by Miss Bliss on Apr-01-2006 08:12:

it's just a bloody coyote ffs.......


Posted by DJ_Lord on Apr-01-2006 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy


Also, you have no idea what motives I had when hunting. The actual act of killing isn't the pinacle of the experience and I've eaten everything I've ever shot and you know what, venison is damn tasty.


lol, redneck.


Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Apr-01-2006 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
lol, redneck.



+ 1 lol


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Apr-01-2006 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
lol, redneck.

Wow you're fucking dumb. I'd meet me before making some asshole comment like that. You know nothing about me, and I'd wager that pretty much everyone on here that does know me would concur that I'm hardly a redneck. Or do you always use derogatory terms to refer to someone who hasn't lived their life identical to you.

Same goes for the +1 right below.


Posted by Shamez214 on Apr-01-2006 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Wow you're fucking dumb. I'd meet me before making some asshole comment like that. You know nothing about me, and I'd wager that pretty much everyone on here that does know me would concur that I'm hardly a redneck. Or do you always use derogatory terms to refer to someone who hasn't lived their life identical to you.


Shut up, you redneck.

I love you.


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