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Ableton Live, better than RSN, FL, Cubase etc?????
Hey!
More and more EDM artists like Airbase, Armin etc. are making their music in Ableton Live and I'm just wondering if the traditional programs are "old"? What is so great with Ableton Live that makes artists leave their old progams? I've heard great productions made in Ableton and I must say that the quality sounds better somehow.. I know the new and great features with ableton, is that what makes the program so great? What do u who has made the transition think?
Just wondering because as a beginner I am confused..Am I wasting my time with RSN 3 and FL 6 or what?
Take Care guys! and Girls!
/Montecarl
a million things to compare them too... your top 4 should be...
cubase
logic
ableton
sonar
any of those will suffice your capabilities and by the time you're ready to upgrade you'll know 100% what you're looking for in a program
Many are not leaving their well used apps. It's a great addition for throwing together ideas, or for taking your stuff out live..
I certainly wouldn't want to try and complete an entire production in it, though it is certainly possible..
My impression of Live is that it's good for jamming and performing, but it's not so fun to write in. It's just not designed for that.
Ultimately, though, thinking about it in terms of "better or worse" is misleading. Whatever suits your style is better for you.
i'm a cubase user, and love it, its a fantastic program that satisfies all of my production needs. that being said, i've been lazy to test other programs to really examine their benifits. But i've stayed clear for the "don't fix what aint broken" reason. I'm sure abelton has its benifits. but use what works and what you're comfortable with.
I'll probably be using it for playing live in 2 weeks. I absolutely agree with jex. It's awesome for jamming. Automation is very easy, anything can be done "live" which is great, but for composing, I still prefer FL by far.
If theres a chance to import .flp files in live let me know 
its a perfect tool, very usefull but i use it just to jam my ideas down and later on i arrange & mix everything in cubase.
Ableton is wicked man, try it! its worth spending the time with it!
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| Originally posted by thoughtlessjex My impression of Live is that it's good for jamming and performing, but it's not so fun to write in. |
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| Originally posted by Montecarl I've heard great productions made in Ableton and I must say that the quality sounds better somehow.. |
Ok, sounds good. Then I'll just continue producing trance in RSN and become the best
Ok, sounds good. Then I'll just continue producing trance in RSN and become the best
beat re-peat
Not mad at you but don't loose perspective. Software is only so good right now, and there is more to hardware than just synths.. ;-)
ableton really allows 'on the fly' versions of your tracks during live mixing/sets. i saw a vid of airwave performing on ableton and it was awsome. he was playing with his and other peoples tracks a lot. and bringing little snippets in here and there.
i have heared some brilliant rmx's done using ableton aswell.
i have yet to try ableton properly tho. i wouldnt use it to mix tracks in a club. but might use it during productions..
if i were you id get ableton. im cubase and love it. but have heared some nifty work on ableton.
OK, I'll check it out properly to. Would be cool to see the video with airwave if you have it Thanx mate!
i used to use FL previously and occasionally reason....but ever since i thoguth id give a shot in ableton for prooducing, i just did a complete switch over. now i only use ableton and occasionally use FL as a plugin if i feel like working on older tracks i did
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| Originally posted by thoughtlessjex My impression of Live is that it's good for jamming and performing, but it's not so fun to write in. It's just not designed for that. Ultimately, though, thinking about it in terms of "better or worse" is misleading. Whatever suits your style is better for you. |
WTF
When?.. is this topic goning to be over!
"It is not the pen that draw the pic"
I don't like this "with host is the best!" is all about how comfort you are i in your host,
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Live is just gret for jamming live and stuff like that, more and more dj use it instead off vinyl and cd i just fuck love to spinn in it, everythink just "run" 
but the seq part in live relly suck I think , but i think all host seq suck if you comparit with logics :P
over and out!
Its a common misconception that ableton would be difficult to produce in rather than just jamming or playing liveshows. Its the fastest and the most userfriendly sequencer I've been working with so far. I still have no exensive experience with Cubase and no experience at all with FL, but from what I've seen, Ableton still shows off some great features I've been missing for a long time in pretty much every good sequencer app.
Get the demo, give it a few days, check the built in lessons, and you'll all see what its about.
// Jezper
^^^^there ARE several features lacking in ableton that i used to use alot in FL. but the other features it has makes up for it...
On a whim I bought Live 5 about a year ago and have finally fully migrated over to it. In a nutshell, it's an amazing piece of software that makes composition easy and fun, and I'd still consider myself an amateur with it at best.
The combo of Live5 and the virusTI have really rejuvinated my desire to make music. Can't wait to finish off the tracks I'm working on atm.
Wow! Not bad getting tips from Airbase, perfect! Thanx! By the way I really like your productions, especially the new ones! I bet they are made in Ableton huh?. I'll give ableton another try then! Thanx Jezper!
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| Originally posted by Montecarl Wow! Not bad getting tips from Airbase, perfect! Thanx! By the way I really like your productions, especially the new ones! I bet they are made in Ableton huh?. I'll give ableton another try then! Thanx Jezper! |
it a good stuff but hell that I still dun really know how to handle with it. All i could do is to load loops in the sequencer.. thats all I know...
I aint sure how do u guys using Ableton to DJ.. How do use the pitch on that? And how do i beat match it without sending the sound out but just in my hadphone only??? All i can understand I can use warp mode to standardise the bpm.... Whats more.. WOuld like to know abt it.. thanks guys
theres this brilliant short n sweet beginners guide i picked up in december for ableton done by computer music magazine. was about 20 dollars. dunno if u can get it in singapore tho
Like above, Ableton is a sick addition for a studio. When I think about it, personnaly and other artist... Why would you want to limit yourself to only Ableton?
A lot of producers and engineers use certain app's for ease of use and strengths.
I cant stand Pro tools, but so many swear by it for audio recording, recoridng bands.
Logic re-wired to reason i like a lot. Ableton for out giggin
Another thing to keep in mind is, Ableton is heavy on your processor. its better though in 5.2 Logic with a DP G5 is like being a kid in a toy store. Distributed Audio Procesing is a feature not many other programs have.
I know some people who work soley in Pro tools but also reason.
It seems some steinberg consumers are stuck up on Nuendo or Cubase - and apple guys go for Logic.
Lastly, I dont know another program that can run 150 tracks, countless plug ins, and crazy automation as well as Logic off of a MOTU interface. I know Ableton cant..
Enough of my digressing.. to answer the original question.. I think its a tool in the tool box that can be benifial to anybody.
haha
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