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Posted by stk on Feb-01-2002 22:03:

tweaking (crystal meths)

I tried my first session yesterday and omg i think this is the best drug ever..ppl say its safe? is it safe? wat side effects does this have?


Posted by RavingLunatic on Feb-01-2002 22:21:

STOP!

please for your own safety!

it's your life, do what you will with it, all i know of you is 3 letters, it's no skin off my back if you do this shit.

but I tell you, from my heart, that this drug is evil. I have watched a few friends of mine degenerate into lying thieving paranoid anemic drug addicts because of this drug.

i've watched it put people in mental wards, and i've watched peaceful hippies get addicted to it and end up smashing beer bottles over peoples heads.

please. stop. or at least, if you won't listen, be very careful.
now you cannot say you haven't been warned.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-01-2002 22:21:

Unhappy No Comment

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Posted by tranceDJ on Feb-02-2002 05:23:

Dude, that shit is hardcore and will fuck yer brain up. If you feel the need to use drugs for fun, fine but use something less dangerous. Like you said, you just started so now would be the time to quit because before you know it you'll be addicted. People who use that shit will stay up for days straight, you know how bad that alone is for your body let alone what the drug is doing.

Do yourself a favor and please stop, life is seriously a precious thing and I don't think many people see this. You don't think it can kill you but it very easily can. Think about it, you could do this tomorrow night and overdose (yes it can happen) and all the shit you wanted to do you'll never get done. Look at this and let it sink in.

I do drugs myself but I stay away from stuff like that. Just stop doing that stuff now and you'll be fine. Thanks.


Posted by PunkA$$ on Feb-02-2002 06:33:

dude... i'm sure a lot of people will agree w/ me, meth is nothing but bad news. i've seen so many of my friends lives ruined by meth. and despite seeing my friends lives destoyed...i still experimented w/ it (thinking, i'll be smart blah blah blah) i can honestly say meth is the only drug i feel has "hurt" me. i don't like the kinda person when i'm on it and after it.

all i can say is this is a path that many have gone down before i'm sure nobody would want another to go through the same...please, please, please be careful if you do decide this to be your drug of choice...(do your homework!!! that's what the internet's for) look into it


Posted by Tony Morello on Feb-02-2002 07:08:

i'm sorry but this is the only way i can express myself fully...

are you a fucking idiot?

once again, sorry...

don't you do a little edumacation before you put something into your body? before i took XTC for the first time, i spent like a week before just finding out everything i could about the drug.

anyone who is going to do a drug should take the time and do a little research to find out what it's all about, like the risks involved, how to avoid something bad from happening, and if something does go bad, how to take care of the situation.

and i know from doing a little digging, that crystal meth is one bad-ass drug, and i will never EVER put that shit in my system

peeps need to take a little responsibility when it comes to their bodies, and i see it week in and week out where i go to a party and there's all these kids cracked out on god knows what, and i can bet that 75% of them don't know what they're doing.

i'm not preaching and saying drugs are bad, but at least know what you're putting into your body before it's too late

the best thing is to stay away totally, but if you choose to do a drug, the first step is to educate yourself...
do drugs, don't let them do you


Posted by TraNceBoi on Feb-02-2002 07:10:

true reply

Its perferred as a common stimulant. You dont have to worry about anything because it wont cause much problems. If you smoke that... you will feel more alert and feel euphoria. some short term symptoms might cause depression but that can be relieved with water and some food. Who likes to eat? Neways... Of course doing too much of something is always bad... If u do it once in a while... like 5 times a month is ok...
like cigarretes...


Posted by tranceDJ on Feb-02-2002 08:02:

Re: true reply

quote:
Originally posted by TraNceBoi
Its perferred as a common stimulant. You dont have to worry about anything because it wont cause much problems. If you smoke that... you will feel more alert and feel euphoria. some short term symptoms might cause depression but that can be relieved with water and some food. Who likes to eat? Neways... Of course doing too much of something is always bad... If u do it once in a while... like 5 times a month is ok...
like cigarretes...


It won't cause much problems?? I think most everyone will agree with me that it will. Best thing is to not to do it at all. Cuz everyone starts off with "well I'll only do it once in a while" and before you know it if they're not really careful, they're addicted and once you get addicted to that shit, you can't stop and then yer fucked

my .02


Posted by ali92 on Feb-02-2002 16:24:

Angry

I know that I'm not alone on this but, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A DRUG, DO YOUR HOMEWORK! SECOND OF ALL, I would NEVER put that junk (Methamphetamine) in MY system! You gotta be out of your mind taking that SHIT! If I were to try a drug, I would get AS MUCH INFORMATION AS I POSSIBLY CAN before taking it! Here's a GREAT starting point for info on ALL drugs: http://www.erowid.org/ That site's all you need. And for "'Shrooms" http://www.shroomery.org/ has more info than you could dream of. Those are all you need. Some people look at ONLY the positives of a drug. I look at ALL viewpoints and perspectives of a drug: Positive, Negative, long-term effects, what to mix it with, what NOT to mix it with, etc. My advice on this: QUIT NOW! Since you just began, you better quit before it takes over you!


Posted by DarkTrance on Feb-02-2002 16:50:

It shouldn't be a problem since you only did it once, but if you do it more then it can fuck you up. That drug is horrible, it tears the shit out of your body, makes you stay up for days which is bad in itself and there are many other side effects. There are also long-run effects that you would have to worry about also. So I wouldn't do it agian if I were you beacuse its stupid as hell and you never know what kind of other shit can be in there.


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Feb-03-2002 23:43:

Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by stk
I tried my first session yesterday and omg i think this is the best drug ever..ppl say its safe? is it safe? wat side effects does this have?


No drug is safe if taken to extreme.. You have to give your brain time to recuperate, can't take it every week. Based from the posts in here, I'd say meth has quite the potential for physical and psychological dependency.

Be wary, no high is worth phacking up your brain..


Posted by elena on Feb-04-2002 00:06:

Shame / Disagreement

safe or not. its a drug


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Feb-04-2002 02:18:

Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by stk
I tried my first session yesterday and omg i think this is the best drug ever..ppl say its safe? is it safe? wat side effects does this have?



..this post made me laugh, stk. partially because ignorance is funny to me, partially because stupidity is funny to me.

so let me get this straight. you tried a drug that you really had no idea about. that's not smart in itself. the fact that it was jibb was plain retarded. i was dragged through a friend's addiction for a fucking year. do you want to experience that shit? do you want to lay that kind of responsibility on your friends? i don't think you do. because if i had to go through that again, i'd beat the shit out of you. now, i'm not really angry, i just think you should read up on what that drug can do.

if i can remember a quote, correctly, it goes something like,

"if meth doesn't kill you, you're going to wish it had."

i watched for year as my friend sobbed and wretched from coming down off her meth, it was scary and humiliating.

not to mention how awful that shit is for your nose. it's got glass, bleach and god-knows-what-else.. it'll burn a whole clean through your nose eventually. yummy.

well stk, i don't have much more to say. other than don't do it i can't say much more. heh. i mean, really.. do you really want to be a junglist that bad.


Posted by gOuRYeLLa~! on Feb-04-2002 06:34:

Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by stk
I tried my first session yesterday and omg i think this is the best drug ever..ppl say its safe? is it safe? wat side effects does this have?


hahahahahahahahaha,
u better quit now, tweak (methamphetameans *spell?*) will fuck you up..
that shit is made out of gasoline, cocaine, and a whole buncha other shit mixed together in a bath tub..
drugs are bad for you period, no matter what people say to you its bad for you...

wanna go smoke weed? i dont give a shit its ur life, lets kill brain cells
wanna go do meth? hey man its cool, ill be fucking skinny as hell and ill look like the next michael jackson
wanna go do shrooms? its harmless right? rofl...

people that do drugs are fucking stupid,
i can understand if your trying it out..
but doing it continually just gives the terrorists xtra money so they can pull off more suicide bombings or some shit...
but if you are gonna go yabba, then i hope you die from it

good day, you are...
THE WEAKEST LINK!

- gOuRYeLLa~!


Posted by gOuRYeLLa~! on Feb-04-2002 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by miss_e
safe or not. its a drug

ironic you say then when your name seems to be
"miss_e" and your sig is "XTC", hmmm am i sensing a connection?


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Feb-04-2002 06:48:

Re: Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by gOuRYeLLa~!


hahahahahahahahaha,
u better quit now, tweak (methamphetameans *spell?*) will fuck you up..
that shit is made out of gasoline, cocaine, and a whole buncha other shit mixed together in a bath tub..
drugs are bad for you period, no matter what people say to you its bad for you...

wanna go smoke weed? i dont give a shit its ur life, lets kill brain cells
wanna go do meth? hey man its cool, ill be fucking skinny as hell and ill look like the next michael jackson
wanna go do shrooms? its harmless right? rofl...

people that do drugs are fucking stupid,
i can understand if your trying it out..
but doing it continually just gives the terrorists xtra money so they can pull off more suicide bombings or some shit...
but if you are gonna go yabba, then i hope you die from it

good day, you are...
THE WEAKEST LINK!

- gOuRYeLLa~!


Well, if Thor sees this, he'll give you an education on mushrooms. The fact is: Mush is one of the safest of all synthetic drugs combined. It's the combination of the person and the drug that makes it dangerous.. hehe

I wouldn't touch meth with a 10 foot pole.. Mush is doable.. Mmmmm mush cookies covered in chocolates..


Posted by krusader on Feb-04-2002 06:50:

Re: Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by gOuRYeLLa~!

people that do drugs are fucking stupid,
i can understand if your trying it out..
but doing it continually just gives the terrorists xtra money so they can pull off more suicide bombings or some shit...
but if you are gonna go yabba, then i hope you die from it

- gOuRYeLLa~!


1) i think you took those superbowl commercials too close to heart
2) you are a fucking asshole, why the fuck would you wish someone to die?


Posted by capricorn15 on Feb-04-2002 06:56:

yea, go watch requiem for a dream, i dont remember if it is about meth, but then its a movie about addicts. any hardcore drug (one that most would consider hardcore), you shouldnt be doing. the highest i have gone was shrooms (weed, shrooms is what i have done) sounds pretty weak, but id ont mess with hard shit, anyways, before me and my friend shroomed, we were at a webpage for a week at least reading everything about it, and even before i ate it, i was hesitant to eat it, i would advise you, if you are to continue with drugs, to stick to none hardcore drugs, cuz hardcore drugs can really fuck you up.


edit:
yea, gouryella, wtf is that, you dont wish people to die because they use drugs, that is wrong dude


Posted by Kalemic on Feb-04-2002 16:49:

Alright I'm too busy to type out a proper full response, so I will just stop upon certain points.

- Gouryella you must be feeling pretty blissful right now, because if ignorance is bliss your waist deep in it. I think it would be a much smarter idea if you were to construct a well thought out response that wasn't based on stupidity, perhaps if you do some research in to the subject next time people will take you more seriously. Try thinking before posting next time, meathead.

-STK, in the end it is up to you and no one else to decide what to do... However with that said, when I started partying quite a long time ago, there were really only two big drugs that people had easy access to, acid and crystal. I chose crystal, I used it for a while and tried to use as much caution as possible when using a dangerous drug and tried to keep it in moderation as much as possible. I say this so that you know that not only have I done quite a bit of research in to the subject but have tried it myself, FYI I no longer touch crystal and will not be touching it ever again.

In the end I would suggest AGAINST doing it, I have lost too many friends to it. No one I know has died from it, but two people have come close in the past with OD'ing and having to go the ER. Crystal is a drug that is just too easy to do "one more bump", and it is incredibly straining on your system. Its hell on your brain but more than anything else the strain it puts on your cardio-vascular system in enourmous and highly dangerous. Too much use can cause many heart problems in the future.

All drugs are dangerous, thats why the are called drugs. For example this past weekend I spent from 3 till 8 in the morning beside my friend in the emergency room of the hospital after he had a horrible shroom trip. He actually had to be taken down by 5 cops, and they were quite convinced he was on PCP it was so bad. I'm no angel I still do different types of drugs sometimes but I do it with MODERATION, extreme moderation. I don't do things very often.

So as I said, its your choice... but as someone who has seen and observed what it can do over a length of time I would recommend that you stay away from it. If you really want to do something your safest bet is to just go light a nice J and relax.


Posted by ali92 on Feb-04-2002 17:07:

Re: Re: Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar]


Well, if Thor sees this, he'll give you an education on mushrooms. The fact is: Mush is one of the safest of all synthetic drugs combined. It's the combination of the person and the drug that makes it dangerous.. hehe

I wouldn't touch meth with a 10 foot pole.. Mush is doable.. Mmmmm mush cookies covered in chocolates..

Is Thor a TA? He's from http://www.shroomery.org/ !!! He's the best person to ask about 'Shrooms! Remember before taking a drug for the first time: GET KNOWLEDGE ON IT, first!!!


Posted by tu_face on Feb-05-2002 00:07:

we're getting char-grilled today... well for all its worth here is my opinion on drugs.

FOR FUCKS SAKE DONT CLASS ALL DRUGS AS THE SAME
ppl that do this seriously fuck me off. herion, coke, ket, GHB and generally things that fuck you up big time are bad.

BUT, there are drugs (like methamphetamine, and just amphetamine) that are ok if u dont use them very often. im gonna get flamed for this but i dont care, i take speed (amphetamine) every 3 or 4 weekends, and i have taken pills with base (methamphetamine) in them before. its only addictive when u use it REGULARLY. i do not (just to get it straight) cane the shit every day.. that is when speed and base is dangerous.

to ppl that bang on about 'pills are baad mmkay'.. yes some are.. but if u have ur sources right u r much less likely to have a bad pill.. of course, theres always the chance of a dodgy one slipped in there, but thats the risk we take. please at this point note the we.. we being us that take the pills. if u dont do pills or whatever, thats fine i dont give a shit. but pleez, dont moan at those that do, its a personal choice

of course, before you make that choice, you have to know what the drugs are going to do to your body. you have to know the risks u take, and i think one of the most important things that ppl tend to forget, a reliable source that u know isnt goin to sell u shit. although for this u need to know ppl

dont do drugs u dont understand. be sensible. look after yourself while you are on drugs, and most important.. dont over-do it.


Posted by tu_face on Feb-05-2002 00:15:

Re: Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by gOuRYeLLa~!
people that do drugs are fucking stupid,
i can understand if your trying it out..
but doing it continually just gives the terrorists xtra money so they can pull off more suicide bombings or some shit...
but if you are gonna go yabba, then i hope you die from it


a) you must be one nasty mofo to wish death on anyone.
b) use of pills, base or speed does not fund terrorists. not in our coutry anyway.. our sources of these drugs is purely homemade what you are talking about is skag (heroin) and other opiates like vicotin and oxycotin that alot of yanks are getting hooked on.

im not being nasty or anything, but u really have no idea what the hell u are talking about do you? methamphetamine.. made of gasoline? pfft i laugh..

cannabis... there is no proof of any harmful affects related to tetrahyrocannabinols. cannabis is actually better for you than alcohol, and before you scream "no its not".. is there a lethal dose of alcohol..? YES.. same question for cannabis.. NO


Posted by gOuRYeLLa~! on Feb-05-2002 00:47:

Re: Re: Re: tweaking (crystal meths)

quote:
Originally posted by krusader


1) i think you took those superbowl commercials too close to heart
2) you are a fucking asshole, why the fuck would you wish someone to die?


1)uhm, its true, the money you spend on drug could go to terrorism, dont believe me? go read the news :/

2) well lets see, why? meybe because it would be one less idiot to dismiss from the already fucked up gene pool of 2002? + you make it sound like i wanted him to die, i said if you wanna go yabba "aka do crystal meth all ur life" then you should die.. haha if i saw someone die of crystal meth i would fucking laugh.. :SERIOUSLY:

also, tu_face, why would you wanna take drugs in the first place?
why not just lead a healthy life? why not respect your body?
i admit drugs do have a degree of "hurtfullness" (my vocab sucks) but still why even take a chance period? why kill your brain cells? why hurt your body in any way? i seriously wanna know...
well i guess its me, but i repect my body 10000000000000x more then to take drugs and take off 1 day of my life, or whatever..
dont even come up saying drugs are healthy and shit, you and the rest of the world fucking know drugs are bad and bad period...
meybe what i said about that guy dying is too harsh, but seriously we need more people to fucking die so the ignoramouses across the us will find out that drugs ARE BAD and always will be BAD..

i must admit i dont know all that much about drugs because i dont revolve around them, but i know one thing and this is for sure
DRUGS IS BAD FOR YOUR BODY, PERIOD
rofl... i swear when i hear people on the news and shit die from an overdose of cocaine/meth/beer/whatever, i think to myself and i say, im so fucking glad that isnt me, and whoever the fuck that guy/girl that OD'ed should win the "LOOKIE IM A FUCKING IDIOT" award...


Posted by tu_face on Feb-05-2002 01:04:

respect for the none-flame

i never said drugs are healthy.. i was merely stating that cannabis has less bad effects than alcohol.. and i bet u drink..?

obviously i know the real drugs (i.e. not cannabis, i dont class this as a drug) do damage your body etc etc.. but if u r sensible and dont over do it, then ur not going to totally fuck up.. i do drugs because they feel nice, because they give me a feeling that nothing else can give. and without drugs, we wouldnt realise the true shitness of reality

us drug users do lead normal lives.. people just dont realise how wide-spread ecstasy and speed use is. for example, my local club holds 1500 people. i would put serious money on over 1000 of them having taken a pill or done speed. these people then go back to their lives during the week, in respected jobs and with decent homes etc etc...

another thing that gets to me is when people cant tell the difference between drug users and drug abusers (addicts). i myself am a drug user, i dont do them in the week, i dont do them every week. i hate to be put in the same category as some fukked up skag-head who has sold his possesions to get his next hit of heroin.

thats all for now.. im dead and in need of sleep

*yawns*


Posted by tranceDJ on Feb-05-2002 01:40:

The less harmful drugs are cool if yer taking them to feel great and kind of expand your mind and shit even though I'm trying not to sound like a 60s hippy You gotta think here, yes they are hurting my body but then again, I'm getting an amazing experience out of them...the good outweighs the bad. People who don't do any drugs or even drink I think are missing out. You got lots of extra braincells, why not have fun killin them?


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