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In a recent publication of U.S. News and World Report, David Gergen wrote an editorial titled "An Unfair Attack". In the article he issues a rebuttal to an article written by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walttitles {"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"}. Gergen states the following: "In essence, their 82-page piece argues that U.S. policy in the Middle East has been hijacked by a pro-Israel "Lobby." "The core of the Lobby," they say, "is comprised of American Jews who make a significant effort in their daily lives to bend U.S. foreign policy so that it advances Israel's interests." As a result, "the United States has a terrorism problem in good part because it is so closely allied with Israel." I agree with Mearsheimer and Walttitles.

Back in 1948 when the Jewish state of Israel was created, the United States and Britain agreed to allow it to exist in its present place of location. Evidently no thought was given to the long term effects of creating such a state in the middle of so many Arab countries. It would have been wiser to use this land to create a place where all three major religions could visit to practice their faiths but not be allowed to reside their. The State of Israel should have been established anywhere but the Middle East. Consequently, the United States has obligated itself to support a so-called democratic Jewish state against potential threats from the Arab monarchial dictatorships. This has indeed opened the door to undue influence from the "Jewish lobby" not only on U.S. policy in the Middle East but also on domestic policy as well. Few could doubt the negative influence they have on the media and the entertainment industry.

As for negative stereotypes, the Jews have been known to create their own. Everything from their materialistic money mongering to their history of being forcefully removed from so many countries. It always seems very ironic that the Jews continue to decry themselves as the only victims of a holocaust where in fact their own bible describes in detail how they massacred many nations and cultures. Some historians believe it was their investment money that helped sponsor the African slave trade. Even their own Talmud states that "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen." Still further, while the Jews advocate diversity in the United States, only those born into Jewish families may attain citizenship in Israel. Mearsheimer and Walttitles are right and therefore the United States should withdraw from its support of Israel. Perhaps then will the so-called chosen people wisen up and learn to get along peacefully with the rest of the world.

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"Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen."

i didn't know Jesus was married.

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Originally posted by Q5echo i didn't know Jesus was married.

What?!

Haven't you read the Da Vinci Code?!

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Originally posted by George Smiley Haven't you read the Da Vinci Code?!

The Da Vinci code is R34l! 'Tis TRUE!

do a bit of reading and you'll see that the da vinci code isn't that far fetched. especially since dan brown stole or err "borrowed" some of the previously released studies on this.

not only is that article filled with complete nonsense but it furthers tiesto's point from the other threads.

show me where in the telmud it mentions jesus like that...in fact tell me what telmud is . geek.

oh yeah. all jews really give two shits about the telmud

Despite the numerous mentions of Edom which may refer to Christendom, the Talmud makes little mention of Jesus directly or the early Christians. There are a number of quotes about individuals named Yeshu that once existed in editions of the Talmud; these quotes were long ago removed from the main text due to accusations that they referred to Jesus, and are no longer used in Talmud study. However, these removed quotes were preserved through rare printings of lists of errata, known as Hashmatot Hashass ("Omissions of the Talmud"). Some modern editions of the Talmud contain some or all of this material, either at the back of the book, in the margin, or in alternate print. These passages do not necessarily refer to a single individual and many of the stories are far removed from anything written in the New Testament. Many scholars are convinced that these people cannot be identified as the Christian Jesus.

It makes me laugh when man edits the supposed words of God to make them more accessable!!

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Originally posted by George Smiley It makes me laugh when man edits the supposed words of God to make them more accessable!!

yeah except that never happened here. good job

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Originally posted by JOEBIALEK In a recent publication of U.S. News and World Report, David Gergen wrote an editorial titled "An Unfair Attack". In the article he issues a rebuttal to an article written by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walttitles {"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"}. Gergen states the following: "In essence, their 82-page piece argues that U.S. policy in the Middle East has been hijacked by a pro-Israel "Lobby." "The core of the Lobby," they say, "is comprised of American Jews who make a significant effort in their daily lives to bend U.S. foreign policy so that it advances Israel's interests." As a result, "the United States has a terrorism problem in good part because it is so closely allied with Israel." I agree with Mearsheimer and Walttitles. Back in 1948 when the Jewish state of Israel was created, the United States and Britain agreed to allow it to exist in its present place of location. Evidently no thought was given to the long term effects of creating such a state in the middle of so many Arab countries. It would have been wiser to use this land to create a place where all three major religions could visit to practice their faiths but not be allowed to reside their. The State of Israel should have been established anywhere but the Middle East. Consequently, the United States has obligated itself to support a so-called democratic Jewish state against potential threats from the Arab monarchial dictatorships. This has indeed opened the door to undue influence from the "Jewish lobby" not only on U.S. policy in the Middle East but also on domestic policy as well. Few could doubt the negative influence they have on the media and the entertainment industry. As for negative stereotypes, the Jews have been known to create their own. Everything from their materialistic money mongering to their history of being forcefully removed from so many countries. It always seems very ironic that the Jews continue to decry themselves as the only victims of a holocaust where in fact their own bible describes in detail how they massacred many nations and cultures. Some historians believe it was their investment money that helped sponsor the African slave trade. Even their own Talmud states that "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen." Still further, while the Jews advocate diversity in the United States, only those born into Jewish families may attain citizenship in Israel. Mearsheimer and Walttitles are right and therefore the United States should withdraw from its support of Israel. Perhaps then will the so-called chosen people wisen up and learn to get along peacefully with the rest of the world.

Suck my circumsized (see other thread) Jewish dick.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Suck my circumsized (see other thread) Jewish dick.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Suck my circumsized (see other thread) Jewish dick.

It'd be even worse sucking it if it wasn't circumcised!!!

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Suck my circumsized (see other thread) Jewish dick.

What a smart rebuttal. An impressive manifestation of your mental abilities. You would definetly win the special olympics!

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Originally posted by venomX What a smart rebuttal. An impressive manifestation of your mental abilities. You would definetly win the special olympics!

the starter of this thread wouldn't even qualify

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Originally posted by Lepanto the starter of this thread wouldn't even qualify

LOL! The starter of the tread is a racist tool - probably an alter ego of Hardcore Trancer or Cyrus king.

Oh, and p.s. there's already a thread devoted to Israel/Palestinian conflict. Why create a new thread instead of just vomiting your bile there?

f-n tool.

P.s. suck my uncircumcised Jewish dick when you're done with blowing the rest of the circumcised Jews here, fucking biggot.

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Originally posted by aNYthing LOL! The starter of the tread is a racist tool - probably an alter ego of Hardcore Trancer or Cyrus king. Oh, and p.s. there's already a thread devoted to Israel/Palestinian conflict. Why create a new thread instead of just vomiting your bile there? f-n tool. P.s. suck my uncircumcised Jewish dick when you're done with blowing the rest of the circumcised Jews here, fucking biggot.

LONG LIVE PALESTINE

What the fuck is a palestine you under-educated waste of sperm.

Yeah let's concentrate on the epitimy of pathetic in the rest of the world.

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Originally posted by Lepanto What the fuck is a palestine you under-educated waste of sperm.

you dumb fuckin American redneck thats how they pronounce it in middle east.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer you dumb fuckin American redneck thats how they pronounce it in middle east.

you dumb fucking parasite, you just proved how dumb the "middle east" is. . pathetic worm. oh and yeah, NYC = redneck . Take a bath with a toaster, do everyone a favour. no one would even notice.

oh and im sure the "american natives" don't say "Amerika" but that's what we call it anyway, you insignifikunt beatnik.

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Originally posted by Lepanto you dumb fucking parasite, you just proved how dumb the "middle east" is. . pathetic worm. oh and yeah, NYC = redneck . Take a bath with a toaster, do everyone a favour. no one would even notice. oh and im sure the "american natives" don't say "Amerika" but that's what we call it anyway, you insignifikunt beatnik.

You said "favour" - I guess you've been corrupted by Canadian/Brit version of Ameringlish.

Hardcore Trancer - FYI - not that you have not heard this before but there's no such people as PALESTINIANS. They are not indigenous people of the region, they don't even have their own cousine, there's no Palestinian LANGUAGE, so all the hallmarks of a nation are missing. Palestinians are people that are comprised of Turks, Iranians, Iraqis, and other displaced arabs.

...but again, having this conversation with you is utterly pointless.

Re: Israel

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Originally posted by JOEBIALEK Evidently no thought was given to the long term effects of creating such a state in the middle of so many Arab countries. It would have been wiser to use this land to create a place where all three major religions could visit to practice their faiths but not be allowed to reside their.

right cuz the arabs wouldn't be bitching about how israelis shouldn't be allowed to visit

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer LONG LIVE PALESTINE

but where does "Palestine" live?

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Originally posted by Dopey but where does "Palestine" live?

should in the sea.

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Originally posted by aNYthing You said "favour" - I guess you've been corrupted by Canadian/Brit version of Ameringlish. Hardcore Trancer - FYI - not that you have not heard this before but there's no such people as PALESTINIANS. They are not indigenous people of the region, they don't even have their own cousine, there's no Palestinian LANGUAGE, so all the hallmarks of a nation are missing. Palestinians are people that are comprised of Turks, Iranians, Iraqis, and other displaced arabs. ...but again, having this conversation with you is utterly pointless.

One, "favour" is the correct spelling

Two, WTF are you talking about with Palestinians?!

Of course there is a Palestinian people and of course there is a place called Palestine. It is not a sovereign nation but it will be. The people of Palestine have lived there as long as the Jews. Do you think Christians and Muslims landed on earth 2000 and 1500 years ago?! Of course not, they were Jews converted. (Which means they were there as long as the Jews, in fact probably longer seeing as many Jews moved to Europe) No Palestinian language? Why do people say such rubbish?! Americans speak English does that mean they are English? Loads of countries share languages just like the entire Middle East speaks dialects of Arabic. There is no Syrian language but there is a Syrian state!

The reason there is no 'traditional' state in Palestine is purely because Israel has forbidden it so far. And if we wanna get technical Israel was only established in 1949 (I think!) so whats the difference between Israel then and Palestine now?

The conflict will only end when Pakistan drops a nuke on Tel Aviv, and the survivors will be re-located to western Europe/North America, end of story cfini.

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Originally posted by Alex The conflict will only end when Pakistan drops a nuke on Tel Aviv, and the survivors will be re-located to western Europe/North America, end of story cfini.

im sure there will be no retaliation

everyone knows the consequences of doing that

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