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Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 05:59:

Lightbulb Advice on the next big thing

So I want to run a business and think I found what kind business to run. I want to start a company as large as Google and Ebay and as common as your email. Don't mean to be vague but I don't want to give anymore details for obvious reasons. However I don't have much knowledge in computers and none in programming, since this idea of mine will be on the internet. Not much as an experienced business run person either for my experience is lacking in starting a company, per say. I've never managed people much in a business. Nor have I been a project manager for something. I know it sounds ridiculous but realistically I'll probably need several millions of dollars to startup. I'll need to hire business consultants, plenty of lawyers for protection and intellectual property stuff, Accountants, Publicists, a dozen talented programmers and not the least, graphic artists. Eventually down the road marketers, realtor, and the whole shabang to make a business work and run smoothly. I have thought of going to a few Universities and talk to professors about this venture. Maybe ask them to help me select student who would want to help in the project. Personally, I don�t have any concrete ideas where about I should start on this. This forum has folks with broad ideas so any advice?


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-30-2006 06:04:

number 1 if u want someone to invest millions of dollars u'll need an amazing business plan fully detailed step by step, ull need a kick ass advisory board. and lets say u came up with one investors still proly wont give u any money cause ur team consists of u, who has 0 experience in anything and has no money. i have million dollar ideas too man, just keep em to urself. start with something smaller and work ur way up to ur million dollar idea


edit: btw u dont have to start off as a big gun, think of way to do this where u could spend as lil money possible. think of a niche market u can penetrate with ur idea and keep it low cost. then build it. nobody will ever give u the money, i promise u that


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
number 1 if u want someone to invest millions of dollars u'll need an amazing business plan fully detailed step by step, ull need a kick ass advisory board. and lets say u came up with one investors still proly wont give u any money cause ur team consists of u, who has 0 experience in anything and has no money. i have million dollar ideas too man, just keep em to urself. start with something smaller and work ur way up to ur million dollar idea



I feel like knocking on Bill Gates' door and asking for donation but the thought of his lawyers wanting the piece of the action makes me shiver. I prolly should just go to Google's headquarters and talk to the founders. Demand $10 million upfront. Then option of 10% profit or 5% profit with name and fame or $90 million later and I'll just stfu and dissappear with the money and everyone's happy.


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:12:

quote:

edit: btw u dont have to start off as a big gun, think of way to do this where u could spend as lil money possible. think of a niche market u can penetrate with ur idea and keep it low cost. then build it. nobody will ever give u the money, i promise u that


Dude, this is a niche market. No one has done it yet. Yet everyone have come across it. It's like.... the Nintendo DS touch screen. It's not a new wheel but heck it practically changed the way how we do gaming.


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-30-2006 06:12:

K so basically, you want to make a lot of money, but you have no idea how.


Let's get things straight here.


Posted by Falcon-X on Apr-30-2006 06:13:

btw just remember that in most cases if something dosent exist there might be a reason for it.


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
K so basically, you want to make a lot of money, but you have no idea how.


Let's get things straight here.



The money is really secondary. The fame third. The important thing is I have the idea. It's an idea that needs to come to fruition. How does one go beyond just an idea. So I think I've "kept things straight" in my original post.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-30-2006 06:17:

you have to get it patent then sell the patent to a major company. collect ur riches buy a swimming pool filled with KY and buy 3 high priced hookers


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Falcon-X
btw just remember that in most cases if something dosent exist there might be a reason for it.



Yes... because the majority of people don't think outside the box? or better yet... countless people are afraid to act on it. Whether it's laziness, lack of faith, self-doubt or just afraid to be great. I don't think I'm hindered by these qualities. Just lacking in a support staff.


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-30-2006 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by trancendental
The money is really secondary. The fame third. The important thing is I have the idea. It's an idea that needs to come to fruition. How does one go beyond just an idea. So I think I've "kept things straight" in
my original post.


You need contacts in that industry.



Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-30-2006 06:21:

heres a million dollar idea for u. a cell phone service that is free! and u make money from advertisors. instead of a ring tone u have 10 second advertisement clip when u call someone.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-30-2006 06:22:

heres another million dollar idea for u. movies u can rent for ur lcd screen in ur car thru GPS sattelite. u download the movie or mp3 for a charge of whatever lets say 5 bucks a movie or a dfollar a song straight to ur car and u can keep ur fam entertained while ur doing that family road trip...


all great ideas, u find the money and the contacts


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
you have to get it patent then sell the patent to a major company. collect ur riches buy a swimming pool filled with KY and buy 3 high priced hookers



Yes... I would make a lab full of Clones that are supersoldiers and they will worship me as their god. Vowing to protect me and abide my wishes. But first I need to get this idea executed. I have drawn a general businss plan already. Regarding Patents... yes that can be an issue because I'll need lawyers to help chizzle patents on this stuff. But I can see many copycats out there. Forexample.... if I created an program to compress music to mp3s heck... just look how many programs are like that out there. The thing is great things are universal that it's nearly free and accessible to anyone. It's the coroperations that want to slice it and make huge profits. I don't plan to be filthy rich just enough to live a simple life and help those who I think are important.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-30-2006 06:28:

then just patent the idea and sell the patent to google.


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-30-2006 06:28:

"A Jump to Conclusions Mat! So this mat, it would have different 'conclusions' you could 'jump' to!"


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
heres a million dollar idea for u. a cell phone service that is free! and u make money from advertisors. instead of a ring tone u have 10 second advertisement clip when u call someone.


Here's my tibit on your million bucks idea. It'll be annoying. People will get fed up. Secondly, people would opt out of the service because they don't want to hear the ad. They'll just go to another provider that doesn't spam adivertisments.


Geez that's your million? I think mine's closer to a billion now


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
then just patent the idea and sell the patent to google.



Suppose that's the easy way out. I rather taken the road less traveled.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-30-2006 06:38:

quote:
Originally posted by trancendental
Here's my tibit on your million bucks idea. It'll be annoying. People will get fed up. Secondly, people would opt out of the service because they don't want to hear the ad. They'll just go to another provider that doesn't spam adivertisments.


Geez that's your million? I think mine's closer to a billion now


ur gonna go to another service provider and pay 30 bucks a month just to not hear an advertisement??? i dunno abt u but i rather pay nothing every month and listen to a 10 second clip abt pasta



edit: the only problem is keep urself a floatthe firstyear. cause ur gonna ave tons of ppl signing up to ur service at once and prolly only a few advertisors paying, but thebeauty is the more ppl u ge signing up the more advertisors are going to want to pay and sign up to ur company as well. its a perfect idea. itll crush any service provider out there


Posted by Vivid Boy on Apr-30-2006 06:41:

anyways thats just 2 ideas that play on market trends that will never come into play. i got ideas that im working toards. start small my friend. start small


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
ur gonna pay 30 bucks a month just to not hearan advertisement?


Suppose that the ads exist in one of the major telecom provider. Would people not start bitching like the flood gates of hell? Suppose the phone companies havea secret cabal with each other and they all do it..... Like coke and pepsi got together and agree on the same price for their drinks... I suppose I will deal with it by then


Posted by trancendental on Apr-30-2006 06:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
anyways thats just 2 ideas that play on market trends that will never come into play. i got ideas that im working toards. start small my friend. start small


Timing is everything. I dunno how to start small. What am I going to do wait 2-5 years from now. In the mean time learn programming? Business models? It's prolly only a matter of time someone figures it out like I did. That person will prolly be rich but gawdforbid if he/she is poor like me and become rich because hey that could've just been me. Would've gone down in history among the Wright Brothers brotha


Posted by kush paintings on Apr-30-2006 16:06:

I am majoring in business ata an Ivy League school, so that being said I know a thing or two about how businesses are run. I am actually starting my own web company, but like you don't want to go into further details on this forum. All I can say is that in a year you could learn the fundamentals of starting and running a business. However, you will simply know the textbook way of doing everything. Unfortunately in the real world, the textbook way of doing things doesn't always work. I have no clue what your idea is, but you mentioned programming and Im taking that any idea that involves making a lot of cash and programming is not something you are going to be able to learn to the level you need to be capable of doing (over the course of the next year or so). Anyways, your a step ahead of most larps who aren't smart enough and/or are too lazy to be an entrepreneur.


Posted by zoogla on Apr-30-2006 16:14:

I work for a bank and have a designated lending authority of $20 million (Canadian funds).

I would be happy to fund your start-up company. All I need are 3 years of your company's previous audited financial statements, I will ask your father to co-guarantee your business for $20 million (and if he doesn't have enough assets we could probably go as far back as your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather to secure your loan.

PM me anytime to discuss your proposal! If you default on your loan, however, your idea becomes the bank's property. Sorry about that.


Posted by Orbax on Apr-30-2006 16:15:

Aye pretty much what everyone else said. Get a patent, then go door to door to the people who have the processes in place to be able to incorporate it.


Posted by Iyrlk on Apr-30-2006 16:19:

Re: Advice on the next big thing

quote:
Originally posted by trancendental
So I want to run a business and think I found what kind business to run. I want to start a company as large as Google and Ebay and as common as your email. Don't mean to be vague but I don't want to give anymore details for obvious reasons. However I don't have much knowledge in computers and none in programming, since this idea of mine will be on the internet. Not much as an experienced business run person either for my experience is lacking in starting a company, per say. I've never managed people much in a business. Nor have I been a project manager for something. I know it sounds ridiculous but realistically I'll probably need several millions of dollars to startup. I'll need to hire business consultants, plenty of lawyers for protection and intellectual property stuff, Accountants, Publicists, a dozen talented programmers and not the least, graphic artists. Eventually down the road marketers, realtor, and the whole shabang to make a business work and run smoothly. I have thought of going to a few Universities and talk to professors about this venture. Maybe ask them to help me select student who would want to help in the project. Personally, I don�t have any concrete ideas where about I should start on this. This forum has folks with broad ideas so any advice?




you are so pathetic that i will so nicely give you a cold but very real advice.

if you don't know shit and you're just thinking about it like you think about let's say.. what to eat for dinner you should just fuc*ing forget about it.
i mean for god's sake, this is you:
hi i dont know shit about managing, or computer or programming
i certainly got this 'so amazing i can't even share the idea' idea about me being a big shot with this idea but i just have no clue how to do anything about it, so i might as well post it in the cor where its reowned for its stupidity and fun
i also am thinking of making this a huge company like google and making it so useful in our lives; hell as common as the shit everyone uses everyday.
you don't know jack shit, even if you have what it takes to learn about everything you need to know to get this business going, i bet this one time idea phase will pass through you like it never happened

dream on, kid.

edit: yes, you are probably older than me, and maybe know more about life than me. yes, but your childish thoughts just amuse me


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