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Shah of Iran's Heir Plans Overthrow of Regime

" Reza Pahlavi, son of the late Shah of Iran, told the editors of HUMAN EVENTS last week that in the next two to three months he hopes to finalize the organization of a movement aimed at overthrowing the Islamic regime in Tehran and replacing it with a democratic government.

He believes the cause is urgent because of the prospect that Iran may soon develop a nuclear weapon or the U.S. may use military force to preempt that. He hopes to offer a way out of this dilemma: a revolution sparked by massive civil disobedience in which the masses in the streets are backed by elements of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard." (Courtesy of Human Events Online)

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Fantastic news!

If this actually happens, I believe Iran will return to it's supreme self. This clerical rule of Iran has to be removed, it has been in power for too long and too much anguish has been caused. They should all be tried for murder and hanged for their crimes as they did to so much Iranian citizens.

Once again, great news!

It is great news. I would love to see this happen. Then there might be less tension all over the Middle East. Still have Iraq to deal with, oye. Thats one thing I wish that never happened.

This will be a turn for the best in the worst of times.

what a brilliant idea! let's use an anti-democratic process to remove one government and install another that will supposedly espouse principles that go against the very same acts that created it.

what fucken retarded logic is this dear god. i know i curse your son's name every chance that i get, and that i really don't believe in you, but can you send a bolt of lightening toward these madfucks.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange what a brilliant idea! let's use an anti-democratic process to remove one government and install another that will supposedly espouse principles that go against the very same acts that created it.

...but thats only how the finest Democracies in the world are begun silly.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange what a brilliant idea! let's use an anti-democratic process to remove one government and install another that will supposedly espouse principles that go against the very same acts that created it. what fucken retarded logic is this dear god. i know i curse your son's name every chance that i get, and that i really don't believe in you, but can you send a bolt of lightening toward these madfucks.

Oh, they should use the democratic process to set up a democracy in a country like this?

lol at Reza Pahlavi and the ones who think he is the future of Iran.

Iran doesnt need another shah,we all know what his father did with his fuckin secret service police that killed many and not to mention that he was the greatest ass kissers to U.S.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer lol at Reza Pahlavi and the ones who think he is the future of Iran. Iran doesnt need another shah,we all know what his father did with his fuckin secret service police that killed many and not to mention that he was the greatest ass kissers to U.S.

I don't know whose side your actually on? The Iranian people or the clerics. It's pretty ironic that you say that about the killings SAVAK did, when the clerics do double fold the murders he ever did.

And i wonder who the murders were more done to, Mullahs who opposed the Shah and good riddance i say.

You know when SAVAK was built to protect the Shah did you know a attempt of assassination was tried but failed and when the SAVAK captured them, Shah forgave them.

If America had never helped Britain to overthrow Mossadegh, this whole thing would have never happened, Iran would have been close to looking like Japan and it wouldn't have been on headlines everyday for threats.. Thousands of good Iranians would still be alive.

If he really is telling the truth about conspiring with "elements of the revolutionary garde", then I don't get why he would go out in public and brag about that. Wouldn't this be an invitation for Ahmadinejad to "clean up the ranks"? If his motivation is to stop the US from attacking, why not simply tell the CIA about his plans rather than the media? Makes no sense to me.

Oh, and what is it about dogs that make them un-Islamic (it says somewhere in the interview that you can't walk your dog in Iran nowadays)?

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Originally posted by Lemonad I don't know whose side your actually on? The Iranian people or the clerics. It's pretty ironic that you say that about the killings SAVAK did, when the clerics do double fold the murders he ever did.

Don't get upset with Hardcore, he is a 12 year old who loves the Mulla's and terrorists. He loves to spout off about matters that he has no knowledge about. He is just some igit, ignore him....

I hope to the god that this can happen. I have a few Iranian buds that would, at a drop of a hat, head back to Iran and take part in this.

Oh yeah, to all you that think this is stupid, how the hell do youthink the USA was formed, or a matter of fact, any other country?? What the hell, you are so smart, you are stupid!!

Reza Pahlavi= American Puppet



How do yo know that this is what the people of Iran want?where is the proof that shows the people are asking this guy to come and take over?

The only people that want him in power are the Iranians that live in LA and they are filthy rich and they want a piece of the cake once they go back.For all I know they are nothing but bunch of fat lazy cowards who just sit and cry all day and they want Iran to go back to its monarchy days.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Reza Pahlavi= American Puppet How do yo know that this is what the people of Iran want?where is the proof that shows the people are asking this guy to come and take over? The only people that want him in power are the Iranians that live in LA and they are filthy rich and they want a piece of the cake once they go back.For all I know they are nothing but bunch of fat lazy cowards who just sit and cry all day and they want Iran to go back to its monarchy days.

Yeah, the Iranians that fled the country after the Shah was executed. I don't know too many of them personaly, but the impression I get is that many of them nothing but western ass kissers (no offence Lemonad, I'm not saying that my gut feeling is necessarily correct or that you are one of them).

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Originally posted by Q5echo ...but thats only how the finest Democracies in the world are begun silly.

Like...duh...

If there's another way for them to do it over there, we're all ears...

Psycho murderer filled with angst and hate vs a nobleman who actually cares about his people.

Hmm yeah the pyscho seems so much better.

people who thinks the Shah is good for Iran propably doesnt know a squat. Iran was a pure dictatorship during the Shah regime. people were tortured and killed in the prisons and loads of other stuff.
And I doubt the iranians want the US to help them install a new pro-american regime like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The US have already done enough democracy work in Asia. Thank you and thanks again now go home

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Originally posted by Nou So you are saying the Iranian people are gullible and stupid enough to follow a psycho leader into a revolution to overthrow a leader that treats them oh so well as you make it seem? Revolutions don't come with out just cause from the majority of the people.

Umm yeaaaa since Iranians are thrilled at the job their current "president" is doing now. gullible? stupid? did you even understand my post. Please, you're an idiot who just wants nukes flying everywhere.

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people who thinks the Shah is good for Iran propably doesnt know a squat. Iran was a pure dictatorship during the Shah regime. people were tortured and killed in the prisons and loads of other stuff.And I doubt the iranians want the US to help them install a new pro-american regime like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan. The US have already done enough democracy work in Asia. Thank you and thanks again now go home

Yeah people are really suffering in Afghanistan right now, and also we had no support whatsoever when we went in there

In the spring of 2003, it was estimated that 30% of Afghanistan's 7,000 schools had been seriously damaged during more than two decades of civil war. Only half of the schools were reported to have clean water, while fewer than an estimated 40% had adequate sanitation. Education for boys was not a priority during the Taliban regime, and girls were banished from schools outright.

In regards to the poverty and violence of their surroundings, a study in 2002 by the Save the Children aid group said Afghan children were resilient and courageous. The study credited the strong institutions of family and community.

Up to four million Afghan children, possibly the largest number ever, are believed to have enrolled for class for the school year beginning in March of 2003. Education is available for both girls and boys.

Literacy of the entire population is estimated at 36%, Male Literacy rate is 51% and female literacy is 21%. The male literacy rate is higher because previous Taliban laws prohibited the education of women.

Another aspect of education that is rapidly changing in Afghanistan is the face of higher education. Following the fall of the Taliban, Kabul University was reopened to both male and female students. In 2006, the American University of Afghanistan will open its doors, with support from USAID and other donors. With the aim of providing a world-class, English-language, co-educational learning environment in Afghanistan, the university will take students from Afghanistan and the region

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Reza Pahlavi= American Puppet How do yo know that this is what the people of Iran want?where is the proof that shows the people are asking this guy to come and take over? The only people that want him in power are the Iranians that live in LA and they are filthy rich and they want a piece of the cake once they go back.For all I know they are nothing but bunch of fat lazy cowards who just sit and cry all day and they want Iran to go back to its monarchy days.

Oh come on...you have any proof whatsoever???

Just because he's related to the Shah doesn't automatically connect him to the States!
That's just a dumb Grade 5 level coorelation that anybody here can see right through.
We all know you don't like the States or ANYTHING they do but come on...

However if you are right, the planets align, the sea becomes of blood and the States are somehow magically connected to Reza, you don't think for a second there would be a HUGE backlash??
The States might as well shoot themselves in the foot right now if there was even a hint of finding any truth of that.
The States aren't that dumb to put themselves in that kind of position when they're already having tons o' fun at the moment...
They are, at best, keeping an arm's length with their support for Reza unless there's over unilateral support from other countries.

This is a best possible solution that can become of Iran and I hope they find their own way, with help should they ask for it of course...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Oh come on...you have any proof whatsoever??? Just because he's related to the Shah doesn't automatically connect him to the States! That's just a dumb Grade 5 level coorelation that anybody here can see right through. We all know you don't like the States or ANYTHING they do but come on... However if you are right, the planets align, the sea becomes of blood and the States are somehow magically connected to Reza, you don't think for a second there would be a HUGE backlash?? The States might as well shoot themselves in the foot right now if there was even a hint of finding any truth of that. The States aren't that dumb to put themselves in that kind of position when they're already having tons o' fun at the moment... They are, at best, keeping an arm's length with their support for Reza unless there's over unilateral support from other countries. This is a best possible solution that can become of Iran and I hope they find their own way, with help should they ask for it of course...

Do you have no understanding of how politics works? Is there any reason to trust a treacherous dictator's son? A dictator installed by a foreign government (replacing a democraticaly elected leader mind you) who was nothing more that a mere puppet? Hardcore Trancer is far more well informed about Iran and has a much better understanding than you think.

And about the US taking "stupid measures," just look at the past record of this regieme in both terms. There's no reason to believe that they're going to suddenly change their policies or give a flying fuck about what the rest of the world thinks, or even what the American poeple think for that matter.

America is installing him? really?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Do you have no understanding of how politics works? Is there any reason to trust a treacherous dictator's son? A dictator installed by a foreign government (replacing a democraticaly elected leader mind you) who was nothing more that a mere puppet? Hardcore Trancer is far more well informed about Iran and has a much better understanding than you think.

That's all well and good however one don't have to be from Iran to debate the point he made...

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And about the US taking "stupid measures," just look at the past record of this regieme in both terms. There's no reason to believe that they're going to suddenly change their policies or give a flying fuck about what the rest of the world thinks, or even what the American poeple think for that matter.

They're on thin ice as it is.
It's too easy to make this Shah = States connection.
They're having problems as it is, why would they willing want to make a volatile situation worse and screw themselves even more with such a simple connection, that's the part I don't understand.
If they do intent on supporting Reza, they're certainly not going to do it without some support coming from other countries as well.

We can speculate all we want however we should just sit on this thought and see how it plays out rather than banter on hypotheticals; know wadda mean?

The Iranian people will fuck Reza shah in the ass if he even tries to enter Iran.

He is a fuckin puppet and a half and if some of you people cant see that then you need to do a little bit of research on your own first.This fuckin bastard and others like him dont deserve shit.What have they done for the Iranian people?why would the Iranian people want these people back?WHAT HAVE THEY DONE????


First the U.S. starts off by all the nuke bullshit and now they are talking about regime changes. As if the people are crying for their fuckin help.Americans are the last thing they need and believe me these people will not let the U.S fuck them over again.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Oh come on...you have any proof whatsoever??? Just because he's related to the Shah doesn't automatically connect him to the States!

Seriously you need to listen to people sometimes.He has been living in the U.S for god knows how long.and he is always meeing with the government for talks about the future of Iran and his role in it.

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That's just a dumb Grade 5 level coorelation that anybody here can see right through. We all know you don't like the States or ANYTHING they do but come on...

Come on what?you think Iam just making this shit up because I hate the U.S.? Dont forget this is my country we are talking here.

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However if you are right, the planets align, the sea becomes of blood and the States are somehow magically connected to Reza, you don't think for a second there would be a HUGE backlash?? The States might as well shoot themselves in the foot right now if there was even a hint of finding any truth of that.

read these:

About Pahlavi


more about him

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The States aren't that dumb to put themselves in that kind of position when they're already having tons o' fun at the moment...

you be surprised to know how fuckin stupid they are!!!

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This is a best possible solution that can become of Iran and I hope they find their own way, with help should they ask for it of course...

This is the worst that could happen to Iran and everyone knows that and yes "THEY" should decide for their own faith not anyone else.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 people who thinks the Shah is good for Iran propably doesnt know a squat. Iran was a pure dictatorship during the Shah regime. people were tortured and killed in the prisons and loads of other stuff. And I doubt the iranians want the US to help them install a new pro-american regime like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan. The US have already done enough democracy work in Asia. Thank you and thanks again now go home

Hmmm, First off if anyone can bring a Mossadegh kind of Prime Minister, then by all means. But if the people of Iran want to choose between living everyday in fear of making a mistake walking to work or taking a dog out for a walk compared to living a life like in the western world, then i know most the Iranian would choose the latter.

if you go to Iran, and say your from Australia or America, they will start chatting with you, get some tea and start asking about your country, in their heart, they can only ask about what they wished Iran was.

I've mentioned this countless of times, but the only reason the Shahs regime backfired was because, first off he was appointed by American with western beliefs (nothing wrong with that) but he was appointed by a country that demanded democracy, but they were involved in removing Mossadegh (highest level of freedom you will ever get), so whatever Shah said, they kept remembering what America did to Mossadegh and alot of people opposed him.

He ordered the killings of people that were trying to assassinate him, like the mullahs and their stupid beliefs.

You see, there is a difference between killing bad people, and killing people who havn't done anything wrong.

First off, i wanna mention a bit of history here. Iran (Persia) was never a Islamic nation. It was a empire that was built around 3000 BC but got weakened near it's last era and around 600 AD the Arabs came and brought Islam by taking over and killing countless of people. The leaders now are as Islamic nutty as you will get and i'm not saying Islam is bad, but it is not something that should run a country that was never Islamic.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer First the U.S. starts off by all the nuke bullshit and now they are talking about regime changes.

Nuke bullshit?

I guess those U.N. inspectors are pulling a fast one on us then...

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