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Posted by x_moe on May-03-2006 00:19:

recording sets at home

I wanna record my sets into my pc. now my question is, do i need an audio interface to do that ? if not, can someone tell me how. thanks


Posted by trancecadet on May-03-2006 00:33:

hopefully you have a record output on your mixer so get hold of a rca>3.5mm cable or an rca cable with a rca>3.5mm convertor and whack that into your PC. Then find some kind of software to record (theres plenty around).

If your mixer doesnt have a seperare record output then only other method I can think of is recording off your amp via the rca outputs or if it doesnt have that either you can use the headphone jack...


Posted by Fusic on May-03-2006 05:26:


Posted by x_moe on May-03-2006 05:39:

I have the Numark dxm06 and it has a record output, but i cant really figure out where i can plug that rca cable to my Laptop


Posted by sr126 on May-03-2006 07:04:

quote:
Originally posted by x_moe
I have the Numark dxm06 and it has a record output, but i cant really figure out where i can plug that rca cable to my Laptop


your laptop probably has a 1/8" (3.5mm for the metric folks) headphone jack for a line in. pick up a Y-cable like the one fusic posted, but w/an 1/8" male plug at the end instead of the rca male plug that's in the pic.

so you plug your current cable into the female jacks on this y cable, then plug the 1/8" into the line-in jack on your laptop. viola.


Posted by x_moe on May-03-2006 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by sr126
your laptop probably has a 1/8" (3.5mm for the metric folks) headphone jack for a line in. pick up a Y-cable like the one fusic posted, but w/an 1/8" male plug at the end instead of the rca male plug that's in the pic.

so you plug your current cable into the female jacks on this y cable, then plug the 1/8" into the line-in jack on your laptop. viola.


sweet, im gona try that, thanks a lot man, i really thought i might need a new soundcard with outputs and inputs to do this, its all good now.


Posted by sr126 on May-04-2006 04:48:

let us know how it goes.

also, you may want to think about upgrading your soundcard down the line in future. lemme tell you, it'a night and day difference between the emu1212m i'm using, and the soundcard that is built into the mother board of my PC. the emu kills this card in sound quality, and has NONE of the hiss that the old one adds to my recordings. pure sexiness, best 150-160 i ever spent.


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 06:02:

emu 1616 for $160 ? how did u get it for that price, i was looking forward in buying that in the future, it works well with laptops. last time i used an m-audio usb sound card with my laptop didnt really impress me .. but im thinkin of the emu 1616 now, where did u get it for that price tho, u got it used ?


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 06:14:

but hey i have this rca cable




so i plug the red and white to the record output in the mixer, and plug the black one in my laptop to where usually headphones are plugged ? it does fit in there properly


Posted by T-Soma on May-04-2006 06:14:

Iv just baught a presonus firebox.

Its overkill for recording just mixing but obviously i have other uses.


Posted by chubbs on May-04-2006 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by x_moe
but hey i have this rca cable




so i plug the red and white to the record output in the mixer, and plug the black one in my laptop to where usually headphones are plugged ? it does fit in there properly


Nah there should be a microphone or line in port on your laptop also dude, it goes in there. It'll be blue or pink possibly.


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 06:33:

quote:
Originally posted by chubbs
Nah there should be a microphone or line in port on your laptop also dude, it goes in there. It'll be blue or pink possibly.


ya there is a microphone port right beside the headphone port and its red, and these are the only two places where i can plug that rca


Posted by sr126 on May-04-2006 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by chubbs
Nah there should be a microphone or line in port on your laptop also dude, it goes in there. It'll be blue or pink possibly.


that's the correct cable. rca's plugged into your mixer. then the 1/8" jack goes into the line or mic input of your laptop. not the headphone jack. because the headphone jack, is actually an output... so the laptop will not notice that there's a signal coming in. but there should be another headphone looking like jack next to the headphone jack... -that should be the input.

-and if your laptop's input is labeled mic-in, then turn the gain WAY down in your laptop. or you'll blow the speakers in them. the mic preamp is designed to boost the low level signal of a mic to line level. if you run a line level signal (for example hook your dj mixer or external cd player), the mic preamp will amplify the bejesus out of your signal, and scare the crap out of you! -if you're not carefull


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 06:45:

quote:
Originally posted by sr126
turn the gain WAY down in your laptop. or you'll blow the speakers in them.


wanna tell me how this can be done... and then i download audacity and hit record and start mixing?! :P


Posted by T-Soma on May-04-2006 06:54:

Recording use the mic in will be pretty crap.
It can be done but eh.

Maybe something as simple as the Echo Indigo I/O Card will be good.


Also...
To turn down the volume go start menu>control panel>sounds and audio devices>advanced. This will bring up the windows mixer. Turn down mic input volume.


Posted by sr126 on May-04-2006 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by x_moe
emu 1616 for $160 ? how did u get it for that price, i was looking forward in buying that in the future, it works well with laptops. last time i used an m-audio usb sound card with my laptop didnt really impress me .. but im thinkin of the emu 1616 now, where did u get it for that price tho, u got it used ?


i have the emu1212m for a PC, not a 1616. i don't have a laptop. the emu1616 is a lot more expensive. i think it's laptop equivalent to the 1820 for the PC.

i bought my card off of ebay, direct from creative (owner or emu) refurbished w/full warranty.

here is link to their ebay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/Creative-Lab...5QQftidZ2QQtZkm

my hat's off to you if you get to buy the 1616 i thought about the 1820m, but it turns out that 1212m had everything i needed when i thought about it.


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 07:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Recording use the mic in will be pretty crap.
It can be done but eh.

Maybe something as simple as the Echo Indigo I/O Card will be good.


Also...
To turn down the volume go start menu>control panel>sounds and audio devices>advanced. This will bring up the windows mixer. Turn down mic input volume.


thanks that was easy. and ya well im just gona use the mic line for now, i am buying a good firewire audio interface soon, so it'll be good then


Posted by DavidL913 on May-04-2006 07:03:

I use this to record.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...reUSB-main.html

it's pretty nice. I can carry it around places too.


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 07:05:

ya im gona either buy M-audio FireWire 410, or the EMU 1616. coz i wont just be using it for recording my sets but also producing tracks


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 07:10:

quote:
Originally posted by sr126

here is link to their ebay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/Creative-Lab...5QQftidZ2QQtZkm

my hat's off to you if you get to buy the 1616 i thought about the 1820m, but it turns out that 1212m had everything i needed when i thought about it.


hey that store sells the emu 1616 cheaper than anywhere else ive seen, ya im very sure im gona buy it, coz i used few soundcards on my laptop and i wasnt impressed with any, and got sick of buying and selling, so i wanna buy that one since i hear it works well with laptops and just keep it


Posted by T-Soma on May-04-2006 09:07:

If you can go firewire.
Iv heard from people that usb runs into alot of problems, especially m-audio.
I current have a usb interface. Numark DXM01 mixer.
Shocking it is...


Posted by x_moe on May-04-2006 23:09:

hey guys, i plugged that rca cable from my mixer to my laptop the same way u told me how and it worked, when i hit record everything was recorded, but holy, it sounds like there is a war happening when i play it from my laptop, it doesnt sound clean and pure as it is from my mixer speakers, why is that ?


oh wow, i just turned to a supreme tranceaddict after my last post


Posted by generic on May-05-2006 00:06:

did you turn down the Mic-In volume?
The program you use to record should have volume meters, keep it below 0db. You may need to adjust the recording level as well (same as mentioned above except you choose recording in the windows volume control).


Posted by sr126 on May-05-2006 00:23:

you need do one, two, or all three of theses things...

1) lower your sound card's mic in level via the control pannel.

2) lower the recording level in your recording application. -will probably end up being the same as step one.

3) lower the signal coming out of the mixer. -this is kind of tricky because, if your mixer has a dedicated record out... then it's probably controlled by the individual gains on each channel, and is not affected by the master.

ssssoooooooo... what can you do? connect the mixer to the computer via the master outs (use adapter plugs as you see fit to make the connnection) and then connect the record out to your amp/speaker set up. than way your can use the master out control on your mixer to adjust the amount of signal going into your computer. to help bring your levels under control. make sure you use your mixers UN-BALANCED outs to go to your laptop. using the balanced outs will just send a hotter signal to your laptop, making the problem even more difficult to bring under control.


Posted by sr126 on May-05-2006 00:29:

also... are you 100% sure that the input you're using is actually a microphone input, and not a line-in?

before you start reconnecting, try lowering the line-in, record a part of song, and see what happens. hopefully it's that simple.


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