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Iran - Before and After

I got these from a site which i found interesting, very good way of showing the Good Iran, run by Persian beliefs to the after pictures run by false Iranians with arabic beliefs.

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January 16, 1979, His Imperial Majesty Mohamad Reza Shah Pahlavi Leaves


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February 1, 1979, Tehran's Mehrabad airport: Khomeini returns from exile


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Land of Kings


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Land of Mullahs


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Imperial Iran


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Arabized Iran


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Grace Of God


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Wrath of God


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His Imperial Majesty Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi


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Ruhollah Khomeini


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Working with worthy Dignitaries


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Working with infamous Terrorists


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1000 Rials = $ 14.30


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1000 Rials = $0.10


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Soldiers of the Imperial Iranian Forces


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Soldiers of the Islamic Republic


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Soldiers of the Empire


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Soldier of Islam


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Imperial Guard of Iran


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Islamic Guards


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Social Justice


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Islamic Justice


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Outing before the Revolution


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Outing after the Revolution


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Secular Education


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Islamic Education


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I've said it once and i'll say it again, ISLAM must be removed, it is not a worthy thing to even associate itself with Persia.

what is the matter with you? I have many people that live in Iran and it is not as bad as you trying make everyone think it is.I understand you hate the mullahs but the picture that you are trying to draw here does not represent the country as a whole and I think you know that too.

It is a shame that people will actually make their decisions based on a bunch of pictures.

btw shah was a fuckin idiot and one of the biggest American ass kisser I've ever known and he paid the price for it when the Americans brought khomaini to get rid of him.

It seems like that you like to have monrachy back to Iran and imo that is not the solution for Iran.I would hate to see a bunch of rich fat fucks from LA running the country.

Let the people of Iran decide their owb faith and not let others make decisions for them.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer what is the matter with you? I have many people that live in Iran and it is not as bad as you trying make everyone think it is.I understand you hate the mullahs but the picture that you are trying to draw here does not represent the country as a whole and I think you know that too. It is a shame that people will actually make their decisions based on a bunch of pictures. btw shah was a fuckin idiot and one of the biggest American ass kisser I've ever known and he paid the price for it when the Americans brought khomaini to get rid of him. It seems like that you like to have monrachy back to Iran and imo that is not the solution for Iran.I would hate to see a bunch of rich fat fucks from LA running the country. Let the people of Iran decide their owb faith and not let others make decisions for them.

Theres nothing wrong with me, actually i'm Iranian myself so you can't put it in a way that i'm not entitled to tell the real story behind the mullahs.

The people in Iran that like the regime are all someway or another been bribed by the government not to oppose them or be killed.

That last couple of photos where the mother and son are on the ground is the true reality behind the mullah leadership.

About the bribery, i've heard many stories that the regime going after poorer people and bribing them with large amounts of money to not oppose the regime.

Man, who the hell do you think you are in defending these pricks. Shah was with America but never letted them have anything to do with Iran. I guess you haven't understood why America had a hand in the revolution.

The Shah was said to have been building Irans military so fast and hard that it was scaring America. Hell, i remember my uncle said that Iran invaded a couple of large island who were causing trouble for Iran, so Iran declared war on them. The war was over in 2 hours. These forces from Iran under Shah was told to have scared America at the time.

So he was a American ass kisser?

I guess you don't know much about the Persian History. I don't understand someone that actually defends this regime would actually know anything about Iran before the introduction of the shitty Islam.

I also want to mention that Persia actually went out on a crusade to kill of the terrorist people. In babylonia there were plenty of them for one, and the terrorist simple gave up when they saw Persia. Long story short, Persia before Islam hated Terrorism, Iran after Islam supports it.


Not as bad as i make it. Are you kidding yourself?

Guys, these pictures are truly the proper depiction of both faiths. One is a true Iranian belief to help people in which Persia originally were. The second is the Islamic belief in which to cause people to go bad against each other and then it is believed a messiah will come and kill all bad people.

What a bunch of bullshit.

I don't understand why you hated Shah, because he was liked by America? So what, did you think that America could soon take over Iran? Hah, don't count on it. In History, alot of people have tried to take control of Iran and all have failed miserably. Iran needs a strong leader and not someone like the mullahs who talk big, but when the war happens, they start running off to other countries.

I don't know if you like Islam or not, but we cannot have them control our faith. Persian faith has always been Zoroastrianism and not Islam. You do the maths in which religion should be behind Iran.

Ok, now we have seen the negative side of Iraq. Now, show positive pictures of Iraq.

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Originally posted by Lemonad Theres nothing wrong with me, actually i'm Iranian myself so you can't put it in a way that i'm not entitled to tell the real story behind the mullahs.

Good for you.

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The people in Iran that like the regime are all someway or another been bribed by the government not to oppose them or be killed.

Bullshit.It is the case on some cases however but not ALL.

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That last couple of photos where the mother and son are on the ground is the true reality behind the mullah leadership.

yup everyone is dying in Iran right now.
Dont be so damn paranoid ffs.

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About the bribery, i've heard many stories that the regime going after poorer people and bribing them with large amounts of money to not oppose the regime.

so?any government in this world will do anything to survive.

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Man, who the hell do you think you are in defending these pricks.

FUCK YOU.

My dad was in prison for 3 years under these mullahs so dont fuckin tell me I support their shit.got it?

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The Shah was said to have been building Irans military so fast and hard that it was scaring America. Hell, i remember my uncle said that Iran invaded a couple of large island who were causing trouble for Iran, so Iran declared war on them. The war was over in 2 hours. These forces from Iran under Shah was told to have scared America at the time. So he was a American ass kisser?

where da fuck do you think he got his power from?you think he got it all on his own?

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I guess you don't know much about the Persian History. I don't understand someone that actually defends this regime would actually know anything about Iran before the introduction of the shitty Islam.

what the fuck do you know?just because you love that idiot shah doesnt make you any better then me.

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I also want to mention that Persia actually went out on a crusade to kill of the terrorist people. In babylonia there were plenty of them for one, and the terrorist simple gave up when they saw Persia. Long story short, Persia before Islam hated Terrorism, Iran after Islam supports it.

I agree with you here.But dont forget about the filthy secret service from Shah that was basically like a mob and killed and totured many.

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Not as bad as i make it. Are you kidding yourself?

It is not.all me relatives are living just fine and no they are not terrorists.

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The second is the Islamic belief in which to cause people to go bad against each other and then it is believed a messiah will come and kill all bad people.

you racist pig.whats wrong with being a muslim?you think islam is the only religion that is fuckedup?

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I don't understand why you hated Shah, because he was liked by America? So what, did you think that America could soon take over Iran? Hah, don't count on it. In History, alot of people have tried to take control of Iran and all have failed miserably. Iran needs a strong leader and not someone like the mullahs who talk big, but when the war happens, they start running off to other countries.

you seem to think that you know exactly whats going to happen so lets wait and see.

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I don't know if you like Islam or not, but we cannot have them control our faith. Persian faith has always been Zoroastrianism and not Islam. You do the maths in which religion should be behind Iran.

I agree but thats not up to me and you or others who live outside of Iran to decide and Religion will always be part of Iran love it or hate it.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Good for you. Bullshit.It is the case on some cases however but not ALL.

I didn't say all, but most poor people are often led to this.

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yup everyone is dying in Iran right now. Dont be so damn paranoid ffs.

Whats with you a over stretching my post?

Lets put it this way, poorness is higher among those that oppose the regime and don't tell me this is false because you know that mullahs or people that truly follow Islam get paid a higher wage.

Pahlavi made a good point in a recent interview, that one of the biggest commander generals has to do a taxi job just to pay the wages.

This same guys under Pahlavi were so powerful that you couldn't even talk to them.

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so?any government in this world will do anything to survive.

True, but to kill their people whoever opposes them? Think back to History man, they were never like that.

I mean these people have taken it so far as to teach people on how to dress.

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FUCK YOU. My dad was in prison for 3 years under these mullahs so dont fuckin tell me I support their shit.got it?

Sorry to hear that, what did he do, oppose the regime?

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where da fuck do you think he got his power from?you think he got it all on his own?

Funny, how the Americans would get scared of the Pahlavi Dynasty if they were actually giving them power, what a bunch of bullshit!

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what the fuck do you know?just because you love that idiot shah doesnt make you any better then me.

Actually i'm not in love with him, i wasn't even born when he was in power. You see, being biased is a problem of seeing the world in a single line. When you understand both sides of good and evil. You can understand this regime under Islam is not good for Iran. Let it be Pahlavi or anything king, just not Islam.

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I agree with you here.But dont forget about the filthy secret service from Shah that was basically like a mob and killed and totured many.

Because they killed the people that were causing all this trouble in Iran is bad? They were basically killing terrorist people!

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It is not.all me relatives are living just fine and no they are not terrorists.

Ok, seeing as how you don't oppose the regime you would probably live a normal life, i'm presuming your family doesn't oppose them?

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you racist pig.whats wrong with being a muslim?you think islam is the only religion that is fuckedup?

No, it's not the only country thats fucked up, but it is the only religion that is taking too extremely about a messiah being revived when all the people in the world go bad.

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you seem to think that you know exactly whats going to happen so lets wait and see.

Actually thats who they are, you watch and see. The mullahs sent the most brilliant, top grade students into war against Iraq for the fear of being revolted against. A regime like when it comes to war, who do you think will suffer most? The innocent Iranians.

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I agree but thats not up to me and you or others who live outside of Iran to decide and Religion will always be part of Iran love it or hate it.

One can only hope right? But you still haven't explained why you don't oppose the mullahs?

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Originally posted by Lemonad I've said it once and i'll say it again, ISLAM must be removed, it is not a worthy thing to even associate itself with Persia.

What? Remove a whole religion?

ok hitler!

Um, Russian revolution was built on the illusioned and brainwashed serfs who didn't know shit about they were getting into.

So saying it's the true and epitimy of the "nations" will is insane.

@marc;
that is not a racist or anti-islamic comment, especially in Persia it makes alot more sense.

One thing i forgot to point out.



not ARABIZED iran, Islamofascistized Iran

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Originally posted by Marc Summers What? Remove a whole religion? ok hitler!

Eliminating a religion does not equal eliminating its followers. Wanting some specific religion eliminated is no more stupid or wrong than wanting a specific philosophy, such as nazism or conservativism, eliminated.

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Ayatollah Khomeini was one of the leaders of the religious opposition, who opposed the Shah's close diplomatic relationship with Israel, universal suffrage (voting rights for women), changes in the election laws that allowed election of religious minorities to office, and changes in the civil code which granted women legal equality in marital issues.

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The Shah had been in power since 1941, with a brief interruption in 1953; through the 1960s and 1970s he faced continued opposition, from religious figures as well as from urban middle classes, many of which supported a constitutional democracy with fewer powers resting with the Shah. The Shah enforced a strict regime, imprisoning hundreds of political activists, and enforcing censorship laws. At the same time, however, living conditions for the people improved significantly, and many basic human and democratic rights were established (e.g. extending suffrage to women), which were fiercely opposed by Mullahs who opposed the Shah.

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The Shah's program of reforms was known as the White Revolution. It also abolished the feudal system (causing consequences such as breaking up property owned by some Shia clergy - which reduced their income) and it gave suffrage to women (which was protested by the clergy as being a plot to disrupt the nuclear family unit).

clearly the mullahs are better

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Originally posted by Lemonad Lets put it this way, poorness is higher among those that oppose the regime and don't tell me this is false because you know that mullahs or people that truly follow Islam get paid a higher wage.

mullah this,islam that.you sound like a broken record man.

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Pahlavi made a good point in a recent interview, that one of the biggest commander generals has to do a taxi job just to pay the wages. This same guys under Pahlavi were so powerful that you couldn't even talk to them.

I believe everyone is equal and pahlavi obviously didnt think like that,thats why the country was divided back in the days and thats why the people at the end fucked him over.

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True, but to kill their people whoever opposes them? Think back to History man, they were never like that. I mean these people have taken it so far as to teach people on how to dress.

gain you need to understand that if the people really are fedup with the regime they will throw them out just like they did to shah.Dont forget the Iranian people arent a bunch of pussies.

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Sorry to hear that, what did he do, oppose the regime?

Iam not going to get into it so please drop it.

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Funny, how the Americans would get scared of the Pahlavi Dynasty if they were actually giving them power, what a bunch of bullshit!

obvioulsy you dont know how the Americans work.one day you are friends with them and tomorrow you are the enemy.

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Actually i'm not in love with him, i wasn't even born when he was in power. You see, being biased is a problem of seeing the world in a single line. When you understand both sides of good and evil. You can understand this regime under Islam is not good for Iran. Let it be Pahlavi or anything king, just not Islam.

sorry to break it to you but there will be no monrachy in Iran ever again.The times have changed and so did the people.Islam wont just disapear and you need to stop blaming the whole religion for Irans problems and extremism exist in every damn religion.

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Because they killed the people that were causing all this trouble in Iran is bad? They were basically killing terrorist people!

No they werent terrorists.These were regular people with different beliefs.and in democracy you have freedom of speach.Did you know that people werent allowd to be out after like 8pm or else they would get arrested?now wtf is that?

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Ok, seeing as how you don't oppose the regime you would probably live a normal life, i'm presuming your family doesn't oppose them?

you need to stfu with that and look at the bigger picture here.you see unlike people like you I repsect the people of Iran and their decisions.who the fuck are to say whats good or bad for Iran?

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No, it's not the only country thats fucked up, but it is the only religion that is taking too extremely about a messiah being revived when all the people in the world go bad.

you should hate zionism too then.

LMAO Zionism and Islamofascism

riiight.

And no the Shah just gave equility to women, abolismhment of extremist religious beliefs, and abolishment of the peasant system.

While illeterate poverty stricken idiots believed some exiled skunk who claimed that if they worship him and his ideas they'll be saved.

Gee, revolutions are all the same aren't they.

I can really see how much freedom of speech and other previleges they wanted that they didn't have under the Shah, they actually have now.

Oh, yeah nevermind, they don't.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers What? Remove a whole religion? ok hitler!

I meant from Iran.

You know those Arabs that forced Islam onto Persia by killing their people can keep their religion.

Persia had it's own religion before Islam was forced upon them and that's why im saying remove it from Iran.

Those other countries who have it forced upon them can keep it for all i care.

It's like those alien movies, how there is a human walking around and all of a sudden a leech kind of alien jumps on their face and controls the human.

hardcoretrancer, i kind of know your anger towards America because it was because of them why this happened.. but your anger should be more towards Britain who caused this in the first place. Britian and Russia tried to take over Iran, where Russia took the North and Britian took the South and both powers failed miserably in taking over. If Shah was too come in, he would have to do it on some kind of accord where it didn't relate to the West, and i truly believe if America wants to be on the good books on most Iranians who are pro Western then a apology must be said, Albright has already apologized on many stuff, it's a start i guess.

Do NOT blame americans here. The Shah was a great man in my eyes in a nation of islamo-psychos, though he did get rid of democractic opposition as well.

His son is more of a leader than even the Shah and definatly the hitler-lover that's running the nation now.

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Originally posted by Lemonad Persia had it's own religion before Islam was forced upon them and that's why im saying remove it from Iran.

Islam was introduced to persia in the 7th century, and from then on, became the largest religion in that region. Certain aspects of Zoroastrianism (Which I'm assuming is the religion you are refferring to, and if it isn't, you are wrong) were absorbed into Islamic law naturally, and peacefully. This is a religion (Islam), which was cemented into the culture of that region over 14 centuries ago.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Islam was introduced to persia in the 7th century, and from then on, became the largest religion in that region. Certain aspects of Zoroastrianism (Which I'm assuming is the religion you are refferring to, and if it isn't, you are wrong) were absorbed into Islamic law naturally, and peacefully. This is a religion (Islam), which was cemented into the culture of that region over 14 centuries ago.

that's not what he was refering to mate.

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Originally posted by Lepanto that's not what he was refering to mate.

Explain.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Explain.

i believe he's talking about the revolution and not islam as a religion but the fact that the country became a theocratic state that's more associated with arabs then their own people.

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Originally posted by Lepanto i believe he's talking about the revolution and not islam as a religion but the fact that the country became a theocratic state that's more associated with arabs then their own people.

I think we should let him speak for himself.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers I think we should let him speak for himself.

well you asked me to explain

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Originally posted by Lepanto i believe he's talking about the revolution and not islam as a religion but the fact that the country became a theocratic state that's more associated with arabs then their own people.

Quite true on the level of what i was trying to say.

But not just prior to the revolution taking place, i'm talking more of what the original Persians believed as opposed to what was forced onto them.

Before the revolution, Islam was present but that was because there were still people who still thought Islam was a integral part of the Persian history, thus Pahlavi allowed people to believe in it and go pray and such but told them not to meddle with Persian affairs. Now Islam has taken control of Persian affairs and thats where my biggest drawback of having Islam in Iran is coming from.

In Iran, like before, Islam is forced onto you. I dare any Iranian to go to Iran and say i don't like Islam anymore, i want to be Christian or something like that. You will see what these people do to you.

The latest news event of the government having Iranian people wear badge colors has even made people who still believe in the traditional religion of Iran of Zoroastrianism to wear blue badges i believe. If you read about the religious differences between Islam and Zoroastrianism and you will see quite a difference.

I couldn't care less if Islam existed, but to exist in a country that never believed in it until it was forced upon them is beyond me.

Having a arab religion, to run a non-arab country is wrong on all accounts.


When i say that the old religious beliefs of Persia are different and better, a good indication is to look at the Cyrus Cylinder, read it below



Now thats what Iran believed in before Islam was forced upon them.

When the recent earthquake hit the ancient city of Bam killing thousands of people, children who were left homeless with no parents were sold as slaves. Islam is truly going the opposite direction of what Persia truly believed in.

@ Lemonad - I know a lot of persians of Iranian decent and they feel the same way that you do, its a shame that hardcoretrancer is such a child and feels that his views are the views of all people of that decent. Both him and cyrus are just trolls that post ignorant tripe Its a change to see someone with sense and good judgement to post on matters that they know. Funny though that hardcore and Cyrus will still scream at the top of thier lungs that the West is so bad, but yet, they live and thier daily life is protected by the west.

Kind of like ............ silly isn't it

They know so much but yet reap the benifits of living a posh life in the very world they see so evil and wrong.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer you need to stfu with that and look at the bigger picture here.you see unlike people like you I repsect the people of Iran and their decisions.who the fuck are to say whats good or bad for Iran?

Then why the hell should any one here listen to you then Bright Boy??
What the hell do you know?? Your family was exiled?? Or your family could not take the change?? So now you live in Canada, protected from the same people your family fled, obviously or you would not be in the West, you would be in Iran, so how the hell can you, of all people, not understand what Lemonad is saying? Instead you tell him to STFU and attack him. Is it because you know deep down inside he is right? Interesting....

My man Lazy is one pissed off dude who quit smoking, DO NOT FUCK WITH HIM.

lol

dude since when does anyone take softcore serious, com'n now!

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Originally posted by Lepanto My man Lazy is one pissed off dude who quit smoking, DO NOT FUCK WITH HIM. lol dude since when does anyone take softcore serious, com'n now!

Man dude after work this morning, I almost started, but I am off to bed so its all good now.

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