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Posted by globalelectro on Jun-04-2006 03:22:

Big Ears Do YOU PROTECT YOUR EARS - HEARING?

HI, i just wanna know, from the DJS out there, if youve ever tought of the Ear Damage caused by loud Music.

If you take any care with your ears, what do you use? Ear Plugs,,, (What Brand or type)

And what do you think of hearing damaging and if youve experienced this before.

cheers.


Posted by idoru on Jun-04-2006 10:04:

It doesn't matter if you're a musical artist or not, you should always protect your ears. I wear earplugs everytime I go out. I don't have a specific brand, but the pack that's currently sitting on my desk is AOSafety disposable earplugs that I purchased from my work's hardware department; they work great.


Posted by Ian on Jun-04-2006 10:18:

I protect my ears by not listening to ASOT, GDJB or 99% of the 'radio' shows out there. It works wonders & I can hear the lovely sound of birds singing & bee's trying to sting them


Posted by THE_Chris on Jun-04-2006 11:06:




FWIW J00f did an article about this awhile back. www.john00fleming.com , Diary -> Photo Diary -> Archive -> Nov 2005.


Posted by Cloud on Jun-04-2006 11:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I protect my ears by not listening to ASOT, GDJB or 99% of the 'radio' shows out there. It works wonders & I can hear the lovely sound of birds singing & bee's trying to sting them



Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Jun-04-2006 11:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I protect my ears by not listening to ASOT, GDJB or 99% of the 'radio' shows out there. It works wonders & I can hear the lovely sound of birds singing & bee's trying to sting them

I have never used earplugs in the 10 years I have been playing out for.
But then again, Like Ian, I try to avoid ASOT or any similar shows so as not to cause my ears unwanted damage. In all seriousness though, really what I'm expecting is that by the time I go half deaf they will have some sweet medical advancements by then to sort me right out. It's the price you pay!


Posted by Ian on Jun-04-2006 11:23:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS
I have never used earplugs in the 10 years I have been playing out for.
But then again, Like Ian, I try to avoid ASOT or any similar shows so as not to cause my ears unwanted damage. In all seriousness though, really what I'm expecting is that by the time I go half deaf they will have some sweet medical advancements by then to sort me right out. It's the price you pay!


I see it a lil bit different. If I'm going to go deaf then so be it, I was born a little bit anyway. the only signs of it are that my voice is quite loud cos i dont realise it is, but if im listening to music I love, and enjoying myself doing so, then if i go deaf from it, what a way to go.


Posted by montana on Jun-04-2006 11:34:

yes, when clubbing i have earplugs. you really can't take any chances when it comes to tinnitus because it can hit you when you least expect it.


Posted by Rainborn on Jun-04-2006 12:04:

I dunno why, but when I went to a club this winter, my ears took more damage than any others. As in, you know... there's mostly this sound.. like a beep sound going on in your ears, after being in a club with loud music for too long. But my beeping lasted alot longer than my big brothers (I'm 15, he's 20). So does it ahve anything to do with our age? Or do my ears simply take greater damage?

And I wonder how much you can enjoy the music with earplugs. Sure you can't enjoy it at all when you're deaf, but still... what's it like with earplugs, in a real club? How much do you hear, really?



Oh, and some time ago (like... during winter) we were having natural science, and the subject was Sound. Long story short, they were talking about tinnitus on TV, and when they played the sounds that you get from tinnitus, I really shivered. I was like... paralyzed by it. It's really scary.


Posted by Orko on Jun-04-2006 16:59:

Yup,

Etymotic ER20s (how ever you spell it)

Best $20 i EVER spent.


Posted by Aquarian on Jun-04-2006 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Rainborn But my beeping lasted alot longer than my big brothers (I'm 15, he's 20). So does it ahve anything to do with our age? Or do my ears simply take greater damage?


It's possible. As you get older, you ears quickly lose their sensitivity to high frequencies.


Posted by cherrybarry on Jun-04-2006 17:10:

yup, I wear the AOSafety ones. I enjoy the sound more with earplugs on. Takes out all the high-hats and excessive white-noise which I find annoying.


Posted by Dj Gracjan on Jun-04-2006 17:12:

i use earplugs when i go to clubs. my ears are important to me and even when i have my ears plugged i can still hear the same practically. If i really i wish i could stand in front of a speaker all night and still not feel damaged!
i just went to a store like canadian tire and bought any regular earplugs. they work wonders.
all i gotta do is figure out something for when i am spinning in my room. since i like to blast it then


Posted by noikeee on Jun-04-2006 17:16:

nobody wears ear plugs here.

i'm still far from deaf, but would guess i should have lost a slight bit of hearing over the years.

but then again i never listen to shit in my headphones at ridiculous volume. i like it fairly loud at times, but never MASSIVELY FUCKING LOUD.

always prefer sound quality to loudness. always.


Posted by Psychotron on Jun-04-2006 17:34:

I havent in my youth, im only 21 but Im starting to worry. I listen to music almost all day, and have begun cutting it back or turning it way down. I sleep at night with ear plugs in and my ears just ring.


Posted by Derivative on Jun-04-2006 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I see it a lil bit different. If I'm going to go deaf then so be it, I was born a little bit anyway. the only signs of it are that my voice is quite loud cos i dont realise it is, but if im listening to music I love, and enjoying myself doing so, then if i go deaf from it, what a way to go.


Trust me when I say this is foolish and that you will regret it when you actually go permanently deaf or get something like tinitus because of something so easily preventable.

I do alot of amateur music production and little things like turning your gear on in the wrong order can produce these fucking horrible transients being punched through your monitors. My Access Virus B emits a POPPING sound when you turn it on. If the amplitude is high enough you can destroy your ears instantly so I get into the habit of turning on my amp after my synths are set up.

I keep all the gain controls on my amps and synths all the way down and increase the gain to audible listening level once the amps are on. Ive known too many people that are useless in this game now because they wrecked their ears doing stupid shit like turning on amps with guitars stacked next to them and all the gain controls all the way up.

I have a friend in a band where the vocalist doesnt have in ear monitors and is getting progressively deafened by loud drummers and guitarists that just dont give a shit.

There are loads of things you can do to reduce the risk of permanent ear damage and tinitus. At least production wise, once your ears are gone thats really the end of the road. All it takes is a split second of high frequency sound at high enough amplitude and you are fucked.

Thats less of an issue with club goers as the people setting up the sound rig have a responsibility to make sure they work as intended, have limiters on the outputs to prevent sudden transients and dont have feedback loops in the bloody signal chain. For people working with this gear - the producers, the DJs the sound techs - theres no excuse.

I am still astonished at the number of amateur producers and DJs that do not know what a feedback loops is, do not know that sudden and prolonged exposure to lower mid/mid/high frequency sound at high amplitude is what causes permanent damage to the cilia in the ear. Some dont even know what a transient is which is scary.


Posted by DFOP04 on Jun-04-2006 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Yup,

Etymotic ER20s (how ever you spell it)

Best $20 i EVER spent.


dam straight, if your pondering on wether to spend the $20 or not, stop being a tight arse and get them before its too late.
very easy to use, and you wont notice much difference at all, work wonders for your ears after the club too, no more ringing!!! does the job a treat.

dfop


Posted by Belgian Bonzai on Jun-04-2006 20:46:

Read an article the other day, was about some guy who is ear-professor or something; he advised to only listen half an hour a day to your mp3-player at half-maximum volume, when using in-ear headphones.


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Jun-05-2006 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian but if im listening to music I love, and enjoying myself doing so, then if i go deaf from it, what a way to go.

nothing more respectable than someone willing to sacrifice themself for what they love!


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-05-2006 04:02:

Yes, I'm 100% sure that my hearing has taken some damage from the loud levels because I have to get people to repeat themselves a few times every so often. I've technically retired from clubbing for now but when I do go, I do bring earplugs now and I don't listen to my music as loud as I used to because if I do lose my hearing, it means I cannot hear my fave music anymore


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-05-2006 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by cherrybarry
Takes out all the high-hats and excessive white-noise which I find annoying.


wow if it takes out all the high hats your missing the whole drive of the song.. i think you should get a beter brand of earplugs


Posted by Sat on Jun-05-2006 14:47:

i don't protect. on the beginning (3 years ago) of 'headphones hearing' i setted it on FULL volume..
i dosen't know if it would damage. my left ear haven't be sensitive for hi frequencies.. but i heard (after night with ears plugged) that i hear everything more sensitive than normal.. (any noises, any hi frequencies) so i taked care about it..
i dj sometimes (at places where I MUST have hi volume at headphones) and in home. in 99% times when i play i hear in only one ear, from about 2 years i see that i hear less sensitive in left ear than in right.. so i dj on right and i think it will change in some months..

btw i have other problem with hearing.. music that i'm hearing is worring me (i have headache sometimes :/), maybe reason of that that i'm hearing only when i'm using my comp. Or maybe i'm becoming too old..


Posted by globalelectro on Jun-05-2006 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Sat
i don't protect. on the beginning (3 years ago) of 'headphones hearing' i setted it on FULL volume..
i dosen't know if it would damage. my left ear haven't be sensitive for hi frequencies.. but i heard (after night with ears plugged) that i hear everything more sensitive than normal.. (any noises, any hi frequencies) so i taked care about it..
i dj sometimes (at places where I MUST have hi volume at headphones) and in home. in 99% times when i play i hear in only one ear, from about 2 years i see that i hear less sensitive in left ear than in right.. so i dj on right and i think it will change in some months..

btw i have other problem with hearing.. music that i'm hearing is worring me (i have headache sometimes :/), maybe reason of that that i'm hearing only when i'm using my comp. Or maybe i'm becoming too old..



First of all, dude i cant really understand what you are saying, so i think ill rephrase what you are saying and then you tell me if its right:

I don't protect my hearing, when i started listening to music with heaphones i did it at max. volume. So i dont know if thats gonna damage my hearing. My left ear hasn't been sensitive to Hi frequencies, but i can notice, after wearing ear plugs during the night, that my hearing is becoming more and more sensitive each time. All noises and Hi frequencies affect me, so i started taking care of it.
I sometimes DJ, (At places where i need to have the headphones at High volumes) and at home. 99% of the time, when i play, i hear just with 1 ear, and since about 2 years ago i can notice that my left ear is less sensitive, so i DJ with the right ear, and hopefully itll change in a couple of months.

By the way, i have other problem with hearing, the music i listen to is giving me headaches, maybe because i do it when im close to the computer, or i might be becoming too old.


Ok, if thats what you meant, then dude,, good luck with your problem, when your ears start feeling strange thats a bad signal, go to the audiometrist and get that checked. And do yourself a favor, and DO NOT DJ when you are feeling these things, theyre bad signals,, stop listening to loud music and get that checked!!!

thats my recommendation.

Cheers.


Posted by bogartgreens on Jun-05-2006 16:39:

got a pair of etymotic ER-20s a few months back for like 12 bucks and it was the best decision ever, never any ringing/muffled ears for me anymore


Posted by Coup on Jun-05-2006 16:43:

yes, those moulded ER-25. I have mild tinnitus now but these are fantastic for when im out.


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