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Tiesto's ISOS or Magik?

Just getting into Trance and have a lot of learning to do. I have many singles from different artists thanks to reading your guys' posts. Which of Tiesto's, ISOS albums or Magik, do you prefere.

Also besides the big names (Tiesto, Buuren, PvD, Sasha) who should I look at? thanks everybody, and shortly ill be able to engage in conversations,

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Its very diffcult task to pick between the two, both are masterpieces; equally good.

I dont think you need to look beyond Armin, Tijs, Sasha and Pvd as you mentioned. They are complete in itself for a trance listener. But still if you feel the need you may try these artists too:

Menno de Jong
Jonas Steur
Thomas Datt
Manual le Saux
Ronski Speed
Paul Moelands
Pedro del Mar
DJ Shah
Jose Amnesia



Artists you should avoid:

Gabriel & Dresden (live sets only, some individual production are ok)
Markus Schulz (all hype)
Ferry Cortsen (waste of time)
DJ Sammy (good marketing, bad music)
Carl Cox (waste of time)

Rank 1 !!

Magik series if you want an energetic CD, ISOS for the days when you want to chill.

Sander van Doorn
John 00 Fleming

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Originally posted by luisjb82 Sander van Doorn John 00 Fleming

What he said...

and Eddie Halliwell

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Originally posted by Purple I dont think you need to look beyond Armin, Tijs, Sasha and Pvd as you mentioned. They are complete in itself for a trance listener.

This is the first time I have ever seen someone say that someone else should not branch out musically at all.

Wow.



As for my advice, listen to a bit of everything. I by no means am an expert on any genre as I spend my time meandering through it all. At first I was all trance, all supersawed out, all the time. Now I've gotten into mcprog trance, prog trance, tech trance, hard trance, psytrance, some hardstyle, house, prog house, deep house, downtempo, ambient, minimal, breaks, drum and bass, pretty much everything electronic. There IS a world out there beyond the top jocks.

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Originally posted by Demoted There IS a world out there beyond the top jocks.

lies

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Originally posted by Purple Its very diffcult task to pick between the two, both are masterpieces; equally good. I dont think you need to look beyond Armin, Tijs, Sasha and Pvd as you mentioned. They are complete in itself for a trance listener. But still if you feel the need you may try these artists too: Menno de Jong Jonas Steur Thomas Datt Manual le Saux Ronski Speed Paul Moelands Pedro del Mar DJ Shah Jose Amnesia Artists you should avoid: Gabriel & Dresden (live sets only, some individual production are ok) Markus Schulz (all hype) Ferry Cortsen (waste of time) DJ Sammy (all marketing, zero music) Carl Cox (waste of time)

I fail to see how ISOS4 and ISOS5 are masterpieces.
I fail to see how one doesn't need too look beyond just 4 DJs.
And for that matter, why are you putting Sasha in the same basket with PVD, Armin and Tiesto? It's not like they produce/play same kind of music.
Oh, and I fail to see how Ferry is a waste of time.

Really great post. Someone should archive it.

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Originally posted by Demoted This is the first time I have ever seen someone say that someone else should not branch out musically at all. Wow. As for my advice, listen to a bit of everything. I by no means am an expert on any genre as I spend my time meandering through it all. At first I was all trance, all supersawed out, all the time. Now I've gotten into mcprog trance, prog trance, tech trance, hard trance, psytrance, some hardstyle, house, prog house, deep house, downtempo, ambient, minimal, breaks, drum and bass, pretty much everything electronic. There IS a world out there beyond the top jocks.

Totally.

I started with crap from VIVA and MTV, then I discovered trance and after roughly 2-3 years of trance I started exploring new genres (because I'm not delighted by today's trance) and now I have a bit of everything, such as techno, electro, downtempo, ambient, IDM, goa, psychedelic, breaks, progressive house, industrial, rhythmic noise, EBM and so on. Techno and progressive house are genres I enjoy the most lately.

Before this gets into another Tiesto bashing or big DJ bashing session ill say that the ISOS sound i dont think tranlates to clubs that much. Its made for easy listening rather than boshing it out. Magik was more club based but the tunes that were in that style just arnt made anymore. It depends on mood to which one is better.

There are better compilations out there though. Maybe apart from Magik 6 & 7 that i think are truely great sets

well imo if u wana learn about the sound of trance, get any sort of like dance department/partyservice sets from anytime between 1999-2002

i find the partyservice sets are teh win

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Originally posted by DJ Chunky Also besides the big names (Tiesto, Buuren, PvD, Sasha) who should I look at?

BT
Oliver Lieb (especially as Spicelab and LSG)
Jam & Spoon
Hardfloor
Chicane
Tilt
Ferry Corsten
John Askew
Juno Reactor
Mirco De Govia
Salt Tank
Jonas Steur

There you have a mixture of old and new, and every style from progressive trance to acid trance to goa trance to melodic with a bit of tech thrown in.

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Originally posted by DJ Chunky Just getting into Trance and have a lot of learning to do. I have many singles from different artists thanks to reading your guys' posts. Which of Tiesto's, ISOS albums or Magik, do you prefere.

The older ones.

If you like melodic epic & anthem, look for misja helsloot sets - including the one available for download on TA. As for producers; Airwave, Airbase, Pulser, Ferry Corsten, Dumonde, Altitude, Above & Beyond/Oceanlab, C-Quence, MK-S, Stenna, Kamaya Painters, Firewall, Unknown Source, Rank 1, Thomas Datt, Icone...

For darker, deeper, less overblown stuff; John '00' Flemming, The Digital Blonde, Ar52, Tegma, Viscid, Nicholas Bennison, Chris Cowie/X-Cabs, Miika Kuisma, Steve Birch...

I own Magik 6: Live in Amsterdam, and I can say that it's a great mix. I also have ISOS 4 and 5. If you had presented either ISOS to me a few years ago when I first got into trance (anthemic at the time), I would have said WTF is this? Now, however, I can say that I appreciate both the Magik series and the ISOS series.

Listen to the peopel posting here. Try the producers and DJs they have recommended. There is so much out there to enjoy, from down tempo to progressive house. Don't be afraid to experiment and enjoy what each genre has to offer. Tiesto bashing aside, he has given me quite a bit to experience. Enjoy and welcome.

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Originally posted by Gauss I fail to see how ISOS4 and ISOS5 are masterpieces. I fail to see how one doesn't need too look beyond just 4 DJs. And for that matter, why are you putting Sasha in the same basket with PVD, Armin and Tiesto? It's not like they produce/play same kind of music. Oh, and I fail to see how Ferry is a waste of time.

Than go and get your eyes checked by some doctor.

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Originally posted by Purple Than go and get your eyes checked by some doctor.

Or maybe you should go and get your ears and taste checked (and preferably fixed).

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Originally posted by Gauss Or maybe you should go and get your ears and taste checked (and preferably fixed).

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Originally posted by Purple

doombot?

I would recommend Magik 5 or ISOS 2.

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Originally posted by Purple Carl Cox (waste of time)

You not liking someone doesn't make them a waste of time.

Paul oakenfold, but dont watch his music videos.

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Originally posted by Mothers Paul oakenfold, but dont watch his music videos.

yeah i'd reccommend the '99 EM world tour.

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Originally posted by eye_03 yeah i'd reccommend the '99 EM world tour.

yeah that was some good stuff right there. favorite period of oakie.

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Originally posted by eye_03 yeah i'd reccommend the '99 EM world tour.

Fav set from Oaky in 1999 was the Creamfields one (August 1999). Wow. Some of the best trance I have ever heard in any set.

ive ventured into many different types of trance and love how there are no boundries. Its not like rock where sometimes it seems like the same shit but with a different voice. (not do diss rock Im a huge Metallica fan).
ALso, off topic but since i started the thread hope its ok--how do you get pics into your posts. ive tried the FAQ section and have gotten no answers. i belong to photobucket if this helps.

My progression through trance went something like this:

Sasha - XPander EP
Oakenfold - Tranceport
Chicane - Live @ Palladium
Sasha & Digweed - Northern Exposure Vol. 1
Sasha - Global Underground 013: Ibiza
Oakenfold - Live @ The Rojam, Shanghai
Oakenfold - Global Undergound 007: New York
Digweed - MMII
Sasha & Digweed - Northern Exposure Vol. 3
Oakenfold - Perfecto Presents Another World
Tiesto - Summerbreeze (Still my favorite from Tiesto)
Tiesto - ISOS 3 (my favorite ISOS)
Tiesto - Magik 6 (my favorite Magik, though I've only heard 3 of em)
Ferry - Live @ Sensation White 2003
Armin - A State of Trance 2004
Ferry - Mixed Live @ Spundae

with a couple less memorable sets mixed in. I had a good mentor, though I never much got into the pvd.

Today I have expanded considerably, and though I still listen to a lot of the progressive trance above, I've mixed it up a bit. My favorite trance sets from the last year or so have been from Above & Beyond, Kyau vs. Albert, Ronski Speed, and George Acosta, though I have to say that I listen to a lot more house than trance now, so my taste in trance is a little softer than some would prefer.

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