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Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-22-2006 18:19:

Calciopoli - Serie A Scandals

Drama for paranoik and cloud....has just gotten more dramatic

quote:
Juventus, Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina have been ordered to stand trial over match-fixing allegations.

Italian football federation prosecutor Stefano Palazzi confirmed the four clubs will face questions over match-fixing allegations and demotion is a likely outcome if found guilty.

Palazzi did not divulge the names of individuals, but said a number of sports figures would also be ordered to stand trial in the sports court.

The trial is due to start next Wednesday at Rome's Stadio Olimpico, with the Italian federation keen to reach a conclusion in early July - allowing for the authorities and clubs to plan for next term.


Most experts predict Juve to Serie C, Milan to Serie B and Fiorentina and Lazio with severe fines & point deductions.

This is such a shame to the country and league and to the honest clubs and players even those on the teams implicated that did not do anything wrong.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-22-2006 18:21:

Several articles in english

quote:
Juve Risks Serie C
The situation of the Bianconeri is worse than expected.
Following the delivery of the Calciopoli report handed over by Borelli to the Federal Prosecutor, it emerges that four teams are risking much more than they were initially expecting.

The club which is risking most is surely Juventus, who might end up in Serie C rather than "just" Serie B.

Fiorentina and Lazio will most likely receive a heavy point deduction for the start of next season, whereas Milan's position is worse than first thought and their penalty might range from a heavy point deduction to a demotion to Serie B football.

According to Borelli, apart from the 'Juve system', there also was the 'Milan system' which Adriano Galliani has denied in recent weeks. In the report it emerges that even though the system created by Moggi and Giraudo was the most powerful, the one involving the Rossoneri was only a step behind the Bianconeri's, and for this reason Milan are risking a lot.

Only a few more weeks before the final verdict is out.


the next one is for those n00bs that think this cant happen

quote:
Previous Italian football scandals
June 20 (Reuters) -
The match-fixing scandal that has engulfed the elite of Italian football is the biggest to hit Serie A for more than 20 years.
The following factbox describes some of the previous scandals:

TORINO STRIPPED OF THE SERIE A TITLE, 1927
At the end of the 1926-27 season, Juventus's city rivals, Torino, celebrated their first Serie A title before a newspaper article prompted the Italian Football Federation to investigate claims that the club had bribed opposition players. The investigation found that a Torino official had paid Juventus defender Luigi Allemandi 50,000 lire to underperform in the derby, which Torino won 2-1. Torino were stripped of the title and Allemandi was banned for life, but he was granted an amnesty the following year when the Italian football team won bronze at the Olympic Games.

- - - -
AC MILAN, LAZIO RELEGATED FOR MATCH-FIXING, 1980
The match-fixing scandal that broke at the end of the 1979-80 season rivaled the scale of the current one. AC Milan president Felice Colombo and players from Lazio, Avellino, Perugia, Genoa and Lecce were arrested for match-fixing and illegal betting. Colombo was banned from football for life. Several players, including former national team goalie Enrico Albertosi and Italy's 1982 World Cup hero Paolo Rossi, also received bans.

- - - -
THE JUVENTUS DOPING TRIAL, 2001-present (I like the present bit here )
The controversy began in July 1998 when Czech coach Zdenek Zeman, then in charge of AS Roma, told Italian magazine L'Espresso that "Italian football has to get out of the pharmacy", and pointed a finger at Juventus. The resulting investigation by Turin magistrate Raffaele Guariniello concluded club doctor Riccardo Agricola had doped players between 1994 and 1998. Agricola was found guilty and handed a 22-month suspended prison term at the end of the first trial in November 2004. That sentence was overturned on appeal in December 2005. A third and definitive ruling is expected later this year.

- - - -
GENOA SENT DOWN FROM SERIE A TO SERIE C1, 2005
At the end of last season Italy's oldest club, Genoa, won promotion back into the top flight after finishing top of Serie B. The celebrations were cut short when a federation investigation found the club guilty of paying Venezia 250,000 euros to guarantee a win in their final game of the season. Instead of going up, Genoa were demoted to Serie C1, Italy's third division.


and finally the schedule for the scandal shall go like this:

quote:
JUNE 18-19

Italian Football Federation (FIGC) chief investigator Francesco Borrelli completes his report and hands his findings to FIGC prosecutor Stefano Palazzi.


JUNE 20-21

Palazzi announces which clubs and/or individuals are to face charges at a sports tribunal.


JUNE 26-27

Likely start of FIGC tribunal.


JULY 7-9

Likely end of tribunal with punishments handed down by the tribunal. July 9 is also the date of the World Cup final in Berlin.


JULY 20

Deadline set by FIGC for end of any appeals hearings, meaning sanctions will be definitive by this date.


END OF JULY

FIGC must send UEFA the list of teams to play in the Champions League and UEFA Cup next season.


AUGUST 28

Italy's 2006/7 soccer season starts.


Posted by SouthernDJ on Jun-22-2006 18:39:

thanks to our TA reporter Ben(da_man) situated in Milan (MI, Lombardy (code.02) - ITA) in mission especially to bring us fresh news from Calciopoli War.
hey Ben, the only rumors I heard lately (I repeat, journalism roumors whispered from Naples Procura) that Juventus will be sent to Serie C, and Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio risk to be sent in B. that's all I kno atm


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-22-2006 18:42:

my newspaper man a Juventino wants his club relegated how sad is that


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-22-2006 18:46:

do you seriously believe the 4 of them will get relegated ?


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-22-2006 18:48:

i do....im 99% sure that Juve will though


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-22-2006 18:50:

i hope milan doesn't go down


Posted by SouthernDJ on Jun-22-2006 18:51:

anyway, that's a shame for all here, I was talking with a german a few hours ago about soccer and WC,
and he was like: stoopid//shameless//dirty/ italian football, and that's what outside italy borders people thinks for it.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-22-2006 18:51:

I want to see them all go down but I know that Serie A will hurt because of this. Still though i want fair play and all and if they are guilty they need to be punished. Inter should have had a title in 2002 because of those bastards Juve


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-22-2006 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by SouthernDJ
anyway, that's a shame for all here, I was talking with a german a few hours ago about soccer and WC,
and he was like: stoopid//shameless//dirty/ italian football, and that's what outside italy borders people thinks for it.


look at the Hamburg fan from germany on TA he thinks the same way

also germans cant really talk. Their league is one team really anyone gets good on a different team goes there and they too had referee problems that somehow they have all forgoten


Posted by zoric on Jun-22-2006 22:03:

Go Juventus!!!!!


Serie C, Here we come!!!!!

FORZA BIANCONERI!!!!!!1


Posted by noikeee on Jun-22-2006 22:51:

If all get relegated Serie A will drop its competivity A LOT. It's going to be something like this: Inter dominating, Roma challenging a bit, Parma, Palermo and Chievo fighting for Champions League. That looks like the french league, and probably worse than the german.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-22-2006 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
If all get relegated Serie A will drop its competivity A LOT. It's going to be something like this: Inter dominating, Roma challenging a bit, Parma, Palermo and Chievo fighting for Champions League. That looks like the french league, and probably worse than the german.


I really doubt that I can see Inter & Roma being quite the little derby. Parma no way. Palermo, Sampdoria, Chievo sounds right. Also people who say this forget the point!!! There is no competition with those 4 cheating


Posted by SouthernDJ on Jun-23-2006 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
i hope milan doesn't go down


I had a look on the headers of all the italian newspapers of today (its 02.00 a.m. 06/23 here now). Milan is thought to be less involved into Calciopoli and Galliani who has already resigned as the President of the "Lega Calcio" (sorry 4 my bad english) had no direct influence into the scandal (as well as Moggi tried to charge him as guilty), so is thought to be just punished loosing some points in Serie A (without being relegated). Juve, Fiore and Lazio risking Serie B with infliction points. The final verdict will come most probably in mid July (see the 2nd post in this thread)


Posted by denys envy on Jun-23-2006 03:55:

LOL poor serie c, that's laughable that they would even do that.
it's more of a punishment for serie C teams than juve cuz 1 of them basically doesn't get to qualify for B when they would in any other situation

not fair...


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-23-2006 04:49:

here we go latest reports this morning

quote:
Galliani quits as Lega chief

Adriano Galliani has quit as President of the Italian Football League after he was one of 30 subjects indicted on Calciopoli charges.

Although the Milan official has denied any wrongdoing, he has this evening resigned as President of the Lega Calcio.

The FIGC prosecution team did indict four clubs � Juventus, Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio � this evening, as well announcing that 30 �subjects� would also face a sporting tribunal.

The names of those people have now been revealed and Galliani is joined by more high profile figures of the game which include officials from both clubs and the FIGC.

A number of referees are also on the list which reads as follows: Luciano Moggi, Antonio Giraudo, Adriano Galliani, Leonardo Meani, Andrea Della Valle, Diego Della Valle, Sandro Mencucci, Claudio Lotito, Cosimo Maria Ferri, Franco Carraro, Innocenzo Mazzini, Tullio Lanese, Paolo Bergamo, Pierluigi Pairetto, Gennaro Mazzei, Pietro Ingargiola, Paolo Bertini, Massimo De Santis, Paolo Dondarini, Fabrizio Babini, Domenico Messina, Gianluca Paparesta, Gianluca Rocchi, Pasquale Rodomonti, Paolo Tagliavento, Claudio Puglisi


about fucking time!

here are projected punishments

quote:
The anticipated penalties for the four clubs involved are;

Juventus: To Serie B and start 2006/7 with -9 points.
Milan: Stay in Serie A and start 2006/7 with -15 points.
Fiorentina: To Serie B.
Lazio: To Serie B

All four banned from european competition.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-23-2006 04:53:




Posted by Epicurus on Jun-23-2006 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
here we go latest reports this morning



about fucking time!

here are projected punishments


Juventus only Serie B???? ******s


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jun-23-2006 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus
Juventus only Serie B???? ******s


I dont know how Toni feels but I think there are going to be harsher penalties that that I took from that rumour that it was more of a least severe penalties will be this...


Posted by K.I.K.E. on Jun-23-2006 07:30:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
Palermo



Posted by K.I.K.E. on Jun-23-2006 07:32:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IvOfmsFAtU

Ascolta, mamma � vicino a te...


Posted by SouthernDJ on Jun-23-2006 07:37:

quote:
Originally posted by K.I.K.E.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IvOfmsFAtU

Ascolta, mamma � vicino a te...


rofl


Posted by SouthernDJ on Jun-23-2006 08:00:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
I dont know how Toni feels but I think there are going to be harsher penalties that that I took from that rumour that it was more of a least severe penalties will be this...



Posted by Ian on Jun-23-2006 12:03:

I'd love to see Milan & Juve sent to Serie C2B
Lazio to Serie B
Fiorentina 10 point deduction

I would also like to see Inter, Roma & Chievo begin with a 10 point deduction. No real reasons, just be funny to see a league like that


Posted by zoric on Jun-23-2006 12:29:

Ah, fuck all those haters

FORZA JUVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11



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