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HELP! why my computer freezes MORE, after i buy 512 mb Ram?

um.. ya.. it use to only skip a little bit before when recording, i have a pentium 2.. just installed 512 mb ram, and my hard drives are pretty clear / clean..
what else can i do?

its skipping even worse now.. i think i could tell though, because although speed is basically faster, sometimes even just doing whatever, the mouse will freeze for a sec or two..

help, PLEEEZ!!! or else i cant enter the mix competition.. calling all techies..

hmmmm is your hard drive mostly full or do u have a lot of space still left? b/c the amount of available space on hard drive effect your computers performance. oh and how fast is your hard drive?? 7200rpm is more then enough. maybe you should think about upgrading your cpu from P2 to amd athlon or P4 .. i recommend athlons .. its cheaper then P4 and its dayam reliable and fast =) esp for those hardcore programs you need to run. but remember... it could be many things or a combination of many things that make your computer glitch like that.

hmm

if you are getting skipping, sounds like more of a souncard prob, rather than hd/cpu/ram. What OS are you running with what sound card?

hm well i have quite a bit of disk space remaining but it says in system only 25% resource free, i guess that's programs running?
sposedly that's bad..

its pentium 2, but i figured the RAM would more than make up for that, right?
anyways it was BETTER before so im sure there is a solution to this problem.. heh.. thanks all

[QUOTE]Originally posted by patticus
[B]hm well i have quite a bit of disk space remaining but it says in system only 25% resource free.


Thats your problem right there. Only 25% of resource free. When was the last time you re-formatted your computer?

Sketch

hmm

yea I agree with DJ sketch, your PC may be in need of a format. Also type msconfig in the run and turn off everything on startup, kill everything on the startbar and use Ctrl + Alt + Del & end task all but the vitals, a defrag may be a good thing to...

well my comp is segmented into drives, 27 gigs total, and there's a lot of space on c (about a 1gig+) and 300 or so MB remaining on each drive "d" and "e"

my drive c was just recently reformatted, and defragged..

but ya i managed to get my system resources up to 55%, should that be enough?

could be that the ram you bought is of shitty quality? whats the brand name?

Hey Patticus- How ya doin' my friend? If you only have 25 or even 55% resources free....It sounds like there are a lot of things being loaded when you boot up. You might try taking some things out that aren't vital to your needs. Another thing you can try, if yo don't want to reconfigure your system....is if you have a CD writer and if your system will allow you to boot from a CD....you can make a boot CD and have it load only those thing thats you need for your music software. If you try that and it still doesn't help, I don't know what to tel you..it could be a number of things...maybe do an extensive test on that new memory...Also, you might want to reinstall all the drivers for your soundcard (I would opt for that first).
Hope you get it resolved.
BTW- Right now, one of your sets is filling the airwaves of Los Angeles. Real good stuff Pat.

ok

What Operating System are you running, and have u tried pressing Windows Key + R (Run on the startbar), typing msconfig and deleting all the stuff from startup?

thanx for the replies guys, i tried recording when i had like 75% free and it was a lot better, not perfect tho.. system resources go down the longer your computer is on? just wondering..

ya maybe i'll look into that sound card thing johnny, thanx a lot
and nice to know someone somewhere is listening to my mixes.. hehe..

you'll hear from me soon

maybe its the processor imho

it could also be your motherboard

if the mobo is slow it could be that limiting everything else. the procesor also plays a big kinda part in it, (ie winamp skips on a p 133 16 megs of ram that i have).

also if u run about 1000000 apps at once it takes more resources (so check ur system tray for uneccessary crap)

most likely its the processor tho.... not enough muscle power ;P

If you find that it is still freezing a lot make sure the motherboard can handle the 512mb of RAM, i would find that out because when P2 came out 512mb or RAM was not very common so most motherboards did not need to support that amount.

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Originally posted by patticus there's a lot of space on c (about a 1gig+) and 300 or so MB remaining on

i think u should buy your self a new hd... 1,3 gig total is not enough when your into music ,recording sets and stuff... if yur gonna rec a set in 196 kbps it can easily get above the size of your hd�s free space....

nono, there's that much remaining.. like 2 or 3 gigs on C...
my HD is 27 gigs total

if you run win98 the additional RAM wont do much .. its better with 2000 or XP. also, try getting tweaking programs.. I have winxp and have a prog called "customizer XP" and it greatly enhanced my speed and preformance. I even cut my computer start up time to 25 seconds. Try keeping your cpu cool aswell, the best is if you can get an aluminum case, a good heatsink, and some programs like cpu idle, that can keep it at a stable temperature.

patticus, not only do Windows 95/98/Me NOT properly utilise 512MB or more of RAM, but most Pentium II processors (with 512K of off-chip, half-speed L2 cache) cannot cache more than 512MB of physical RAM. The newest processors with on-chip, "full-processor-speed" cache can cache up to 4GB of physical RAM.

sorry
to get things straight guiys

im running windows 2000 on a celeron (733 mHZ)

Then, patticus, it could be your motherboard. Most motherboards designed for 733MHz Celerons max out at 512MB of RAM maximum. Also, most 733MHz Celeron systems use Intel's crappy 810/810E chipset, which relies on integrated graphics "accelerators" that steal as much as 11MB of system RAM.

Patticus,

1) Check your motherboard specs, including the chipset on the board. Sometimes the chipset used on the motherboard is limited to the kind and size of the memory it addresses.

In have an ABit VP6 dual motherboard in my system which has the VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset. When I looked at the MB guide, it said I could use high-density DIMM's for a total of 3 x 512 MB of RAM. When I looked at VIA's guide, it said that only 2 x 512 MB DIMM's should be used because of addressing problems w/ the 3rd slot. So I saved myself the headache and only populated a (mere) 2 x 512 = 1 GB of RAM

2) Download a little program called "memtest". Dump it to a floppy, boot from it, and it will test your RAM. If you get no errors, your RAM is good.

3) Check the RAM settings in your BIOS (if your BIOS has them) to be sure they are set to the correct speed of your RAM. RAM comes in different speeds, so if you're mixing and matching (which you really shouldn't do, BTW), always set it to the speed of your SLOWEST RAM.

4) Since you're running Win 2000, you may need to adjust your Virtual Memory. It is recommended that you have a minimum of your RAM size + 12 MB of virtual memory. So for 512 MB, you need at the VERY least a 512 MB swap file.

5) Check to see if you have any IRQ conflicts. If your sound card is sharing an IRQ with something else, that could be causing the problem. Try moving the sound card to another slot so it gets it's own IRQ.

Good luck & I hope this helps!

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Originally posted by ShadySlim Also, most 733MHz Celeron systems use Intel's crappy 810/810E chipset, which relies on integrated graphics "accelerators" that steal as much as 11MB of system RAM.

Forgot about the ol' 810 chipset...
Patticus, are you running onboard audio and video? If so, 810 MB's are known for stuttering audio and minor system freezes. You might do well to upgrade to a PCI sound card if you don't have one.

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ShadySlim: patticus, not only do Windows 95/98/Me NOT properly utilise 512MB or more of RAM.

I don't think that is quite true, I am running a SOYO mothoerboard (Via chipset) with a Celeron 833 and 1024MB of the 100Mhz variety. Does Windows 98 SE see it? Of course. There isn't an operating system that doesn't say X amount of MB of RAM, however neither Win95/98 have any multi processor support, + Win9X code is wank. But i only benched my PC for a week with that amount of RAM, I now have 256MB but I dont have any resource probs.

But contradicting what I just said, practically every problem can be solved with replacing ur OS with Win98 SE (Unless of course u want Linux/Unix). Does the task Manager say that ur CPU usage or Memory usage is high?

take a can of compressed air, clean inside your tower out.. and buy a stronger more powerfull fan. Better cooling will take away ALOT of problems (including alot of those annoying "blue screen of deaths").

If your HD is fairly organized/clean, and you have more ram that your MB does support, i say give my suggestion a try. A little birdy told this to me a while back, and i have been happy since i have done it


Jay

yea

Jay has a real good point, I got a lot less errors when I installed a case fan and took off one of the sides.

Im running on windows 95 and I have 640MB of RAM installed and I have no problems what so ever. It doesn't have anything to do with how much RAM windows can handle

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