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To fight an even fight in New York [attn: Made Events + more]

If indeed you are bringing the talent to NYC and open to the opinions of the real music fans, might I suggest a line of parties that is not of the "business mind".

Hell yea, take a hit for once, do a small less advertised party. How is that for an idea? Don't get me wrong, most of us are grateful for the talent you bring to NYC as we give back to you by attending all of these events, how about you do a party to recognize the loyalty of your fans? Not fans of the DJs but fans that recognize that Made Events (or any other promo booking agency in NYC) brings these talents to NYC.

How you ask? What happen to those "unadvertised" parties? Those secret parties that aren't about $30 covers in super clubs? Might I suggest you give the small clubs some of that foot traffic love.

Here's what I'm thinking..

Headliners like Steve Porter, Lee Burridge, Richie Hawtin, Ronski Speed, Holden, and many more non-superstar-dj's.

Hold it at venues that deserve it like Love, Element, Cielo, venues without that "normal friday crowd".

Advertise it 1 week out only online like a special online promotion. Make people sign up and vote Yes for free comp admission or $10 cover only.

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I post this admist all the nyc nightlife crisis that is surrounding the Chelsea area clubs and I know with Made moving over to Pacha, venues are limited so maybe downscale your efforts and focus it more on those who would solely attend because they appreciate the DJ.

This is what made Vynil what it was, this is for the people who are for the music!

+1 on that, i've been thinking about that, and i think we should also bring dj's such as desyn masiello, tiga, locodice, luciano, jon o bir....

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN +1 on that, i've been thinking about that, and i think we should also bring dj's such as desyn masiello, tiga, locodice, luciano, jon o bir....

GBH has Tiga @ Hiro on the 28th. Advance tix are only $5 - http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?regi...3920&interface=

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy GBH has Tiga @ Hiro on the 28th. Advance tix are only $5 - http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?regi...3920&interface=

good call, that place looks interesting

thanks man

Great idea, but Made Events isn't in the business of NOT making $$

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Originally posted by chanman7483 Great idea, but Made Events isn't in the business of NOT making $$

you'd be surprised at the amount of money that is to be made in the long tail of the business

i would totally support more of an underground scene in nyc

it exists - you just have to find it

I just wished I had time and the money to organize my own damn event company and book artists for NYC. I agree with you 100% though, getting sick of these "no vibe" clubs.

just like roaches baby..

Another artist to consider would be Eric Entrena.

Enough with the Super-star DJs with flyers given out in the lunch room of every high school in Bergen County.

I absolutely support something like this, but I don't see it being supported and funded by MADE. But hey, doesn't hurt to try and ask.

I definitely like the smaller lounge type venues myself. God I miss 114.

i really don't think there is money in the super club super star DJ combo anymore. There is so much attention to these venues and like everything in life, it's cyclical. It's evident, things were at an all time high for new york with all those major clubs running things, we'll eventually have to bring it back underground to a smaller more focused scale.

i've really grown sick of clubbing in NYC, it's always a DJ praise event and never "oh it's a _______ event" as if the establishment and company who is throwing it has a really great reputation.

good example is Dumbo Luna aka Lunatarium, Tek can attest to the time we moved into that space doing parties there...it was "party @ lunatarium" w/guest DJs etc etc etc

Now its all TIESTO CROBAR - that's individual dj fame and venue appreciation....is that all Made Events is supporting? dj fame and venue hot spots? I would think with the current events in NYC nightlife, Made would make some effort to innovatively inspire the essence of NYC nightlife instead of "riding the waves the city laws pass" and work at getting to the core reason they are in this business in the first place.

I beg - during Christmas, please do a consecutive week by week event with non-superstar-Djs at small intimate venues and have some of the proven locals open for these parties. Theme as the made underground party and see how much of a fan base you'll draw from just internet marketing.

I knew the nightlife was over when I seen full page ads in Time Out New York for Pacha NY. Sad....almost KTU/Z100 like wouldn't you say???? "Live in Lodi - Hunkabunka"

you feel me i know you do...

What we really need is more PsyTrance!

the underground scene is very alive in brooklyn - there a lot of loft parties in brooklyn - i think we just need to find a loft in manhattan

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Originally posted by dcctnycprincess the underground scene is very alive in brooklyn - there a lot of loft parties in brooklyn - i think we just need to find a loft in manhattan

Kris I hear where you are coming from but this isn't the direction I'm speaking about. You wouldn't understand partly because you aren't native to NY (or are you), just that the 'underground' scene is still prominent, I'm talking about the days when Arc, Centrofly, Twilo were popping...Arc especially when it was Vynil, there was this sense of low key mainstream DJ but people didn't go there because it wasn't a place to be seen type of place. you still got your DJ like matt hardwick's GC party @ arc, but it wasn't a "walk down 27th street in some backless clad top to show you aren't 15" type of venue. Same goes for Cielo, it's in the dark even though it lays within the meat packing glam.

I use to love collecting fliers, I hate it now.
To be honest, I even hate the made event ones that are current.

Poorly designed, no running theme, very "commericalized card" now..

I dunno the more I think about this the more I take the piss on what NYC is "supposed" to be and how we've taken this right into the hands of where the city wants it to go...nonexistent.

We'd get no attention if we still did parties at Arc because as said before, people go there to party and hang, not to be seen!

I think there are great parties at Sullivan Room almost on a weekly basis... I liked Love, but am always dissapointed at the number of people each time I am there... hopefully Element on Friday will have a good showing so there is a monthly there as well... all of those underground clubs are bringing in some amazing talent that arent superstar djs... as for Made Events, I think they concentrate on big events because its a cash cow for them, and if they really wanted to, they'll move to a smaller event to throw their parties... its probably not worth throwing a smaller party at a smaller event (in their eyes), which isnt a bad thing for the "underground" scene.

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Originally posted by kid nyce I'm talking about the days when Arc, Centrofly, Twilo were popping...Arc especially when it was Vynil, there was this sense of low key mainstream DJ but people didn't go there because it wasn't a place to be seen type of place.

Wow, it's like you read my mind. I just told Kristin she would've loved Arc about 30 minutes ago. I guess nostalgia is the theme of the day.

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Originally posted by VisionsofPVD I just wished I had time and the money to organize my own damn event company and book artists for NYC. I agree with you 100% though, getting sick of these "no vibe" clubs.

There are people who have tried and invested a lot personally, but it's a huge risk that sometimes doesn�t pay off. Urban Promos aka East Side Productions brought a lot of great DJs to several different venues in NYC. They were the primary reason I'd be hungover and dead tired at work on Friday mornings lol

DJs: Desyn Masiello, Paolo Mojo, Satoshi Tomiie, Infusion, Steve Porter, Elie Wilkie, Dave Seaman, Phil K, Derrick Carter, Axwell, Steve Angello, Sebastian Ingrosso, Colette, Scumfrog, Wally Lopez, Jody Wisternoff, Luke Fair (booked but cancelled b/c they lost their venue), and of course our home town boys the Low End Specialists

Venues: Cielo, Cellar Bar, Sol, Home, Sully, Canal Room, Pacha, BED

ESP never charged exorbitant covers, and they thought of the partygoers first. They left a venue if the sound wasn�t up to par etc. Unfortunately, when you don�t pack the house as much as say a hiphop party, club owners aren�t as willing to let you stay.

Luckily, we have Robots who are still determined to throw good parties with reasonable covers, but they don�t exactly do trance� lol

i'll probably be speaking for Made when i say this..."BAHUMBA."

United Underground's been doing a great job bringing obscure artists that deseve the attention.

have faith in TFST as well.

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Originally posted by dj tek United Underground's been doing a great job bringing obscure artists that deseve the attention. have faith in TFST as well.

I concur.

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Originally posted by kid nyce ...it wasn't a "walk down 27th street in some backless clad top to show you aren't 15" type of venue. Same goes for Cielo, it's in the dark even though it lays within the meat packing glam. I use to love collecting fliers, I hate it now. To be honest, I even hate the made event ones that are current. Poorly designed, no running theme, very "commericalized card" now.. I dunno the more I think about this the more I take the piss on what NYC is "supposed" to be and how we've taken this right into the hands of where the city wants it to go...nonexistent. We'd get no attention if we still did parties at Arc because as said before, people go there to party and hang, not to be seen!

yea i agree

I have faith in new york. I have faith in tfst. I have faith in the real music listeners. I know that in the face of a society thats squeezing the arts out 1 by 1...the artists will rise.

it's not that i don't have faith in our locals its the whole production approach. like we thirst that "big room big dj" combo when in fact its hurting us. we need a monetized production company to run a line of well produced small/focused parties and I think companies like made should re-evaluate their approach and down scale it. leave the drapers and boris to do their weeklies at crobar/pacha and have those special events at smaller clubs, i'm sure these clubs would love that foot traffic and exposure.

I never said u didnt =). I just like to state my faith in the scene. Hope inspires the real miracles in this world.

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