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watched a report on nbc5 tonight -- the city of dallas has "determined" club blue is the source of the majority of downtown dallas's crime. it's rescinded club blue's late night license and wants to close its doors permanently. any idea what's going on with this and if ATB's still hitting the decks thursday?

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Originally posted by iclone the city of dallas has "determined" club blue is the source of the majority of downtown dallas's crime.

How'd they figure that? I havent been there but twice...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...e.44f7ced9.html

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The owner of downtown nightclub Blue is suing Dallas City Hall in federal court for $12 million, accusing the city of extortion, slander, fraud and repeated violations of its U.S. constitutional rights under the first, fourth, fifth, ninth and fourteenth amendments. The lawsuit primarily stems from Blue's accusation that the city denied the club a permit to operate between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. and has sought various restrictions on club operations, including banning patrons under the age of 21. "The city is using the dance hall license to discriminate against certain places," said attorney John Stewart, who's representing Blue's owner, Noir Brothers Restaurants, Inc. Mr. Stewart says some city officials do not want a club primarily patronized by blacks, Hispanics and Asians operating downtown. "The city wants a white club downtown," he said. Dallas City Attorney Tom Perkins said Monday morning that he hadn't yet seen the lawsuit but planned to review the matter with his staff later in the day. Many city officials have long considered Blue an epicenter of downtown crime, and the Dallas Police Department says it expends about 80 percent of its downtown resources in the wee hours of weekend mornings to patrol the areas near Blue. Blue operator Keith Black, however, said his club is an asset to downtown's economy and the city often unfairly blames Blue for crimes unassociated with the club. The city and Rita Sweeney, a Dallas developer who received more than $1 million city tax incentives to rehabilitate the building inside which Blue now operates, are also embroiled in a spat over $12 million in tax incentives for a new downtown hotel and 52-story condominium project Ms. Sweeney and her husband, Lawrence Sweeney, want to build. The Dallas City Council's Economic Development and Housing Committee has, to date, told the Sweeneys that they will not consider them for new tax incentives until they ensure Blue adheres to several conditions, including banning cellphones, installing metal detectors, increasing security, outlawing glass containers and requiring all patrons to be at least 21.

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Originally posted by iclone watched a report on nbc5 tonight -- the city of dallas has "determined" club blue is the source of the majority of downtown dallas's crime. it's rescinded club blue's late night license and wants to close its doors permanently. any idea what's going on with this and if ATB's still hitting the decks thursday?

screw that lol

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Originally posted by iclone watched a report on nbc5 tonight -- the city of dallas has "determined" club blue is the source of the majority of downtown dallas's crime. it's rescinded club blue's late night license and wants to close its doors permanently. any idea what's going on with this and if ATB's still hitting the decks thursday?

As of today he will still be here

Another reason not to go out in Dallas.

Crime and a shitty mayor... and an indifferent police department (for the most part).

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Originally posted by Slow Motion Another reason not to go out in Dallas. Crime and a shitty mayor... and an indifferent police department (for the most part).

AAAAAAAAAAmen to that. I live in Dallas (well, Carrollton, so North Dallas) and my wife and I have come to the point where we hate going out in Dallas. Went to Austin this weekend and said the same thing I always do. "wish Dallas' nightlife was like it is here." But Dallas will never have that because of everything you just stated.

so this just means an earlier set?

nights like tiesto and pvd have brought in a completely different crowd from the one that's typically at BLUE. imo, S4 [the village] would be a better venue overall for bigger events -- especially on a week night!

[and for whoever says something about it being in oak lawn, STFU]

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Originally posted by iclone so this just means an earlier set? nights like tiesto and pvd have brought in a completely different crowd from the one that's typically at BLUE. imo, S4 [the village] would be a better venue overall for bigger events -- especially on a week night! [and for whoever says something about it being in oak lawn, STFU]

This thing won't go past 2:00 anyway. Talked to the promo team and they don't anticipate it going past 2am

I think it should be in Oak Lawn

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Originally posted by iclone so this just means an earlier set? nights like tiesto and pvd have brought in a completely different crowd from the one that's typically at BLUE. imo, S4 [the village] would be a better venue overall for bigger events -- especially on a week night! [and for whoever says something about it being in oak lawn, STFU]

S4 won't work with any of the promoters in town (or so I'm told, I haven't approached them because I've had 4 different promoters tell me that). They are only willing to give Tuesday & Sunday nights up right now. I know one promoter who had success, and that hinged on a November 22nd Paul Oakenfold show that that promoter lost due to Paul's agent giving it to someone else. That show would have been on a Wednesday, but it's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

There is a new venue in planning in Dallas that will be Dallas' first true superclub outside of S4 if the owners stay true to what they have said they are doing with it. Not going to name it, but let's just say it's owned by they same guys that own that one bar that's high in the sky....After it opens & has some success, I think you will see more of the larger clubs opening here. I know I have recieved an inquiry through a friend of mine on a club based in LA that is looking for a location already.....

i completely agree with that decision by the city. that place is nothing but trouble on normal nights. people stand in the middle of the street and don't move out of the way because they are talking. fights all the time. i can sit on the balcony of my townhome and watch police helicopters following people leaving that club specifically. gunshots. ambulances all the time. its about time something changed.

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Originally posted by Progress Ent. S4 won't work with any of the promoters in town (or so I'm told, I haven't approached them because I've had 4 different promoters tell me that). They are only willing to give Tuesday & Sunday nights up right now. I know one promoter who had success, and that hinged on a November 22nd Paul Oakenfold show that that promoter lost due to Paul's agent giving it to someone else. That show would have been on a Wednesday, but it's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. There is a new venue in planning in Dallas that will be Dallas' first true superclub outside of S4 if the owners stay true to what they have said they are doing with it. Not going to name it, but let's just say it's owned by they same guys that own that one bar that's high in the sky....After it opens & has some success, I think you will see more of the larger clubs opening here. I know I have recieved an inquiry through a friend of mine on a club based in LA that is looking for a location already.....

interesting, considering how DEAD that place is on wed/thurs. i can't imagine them not wanting to rake in some profit on an off-night.

[PM]

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Originally posted by iclone interesting, considering how DEAD that place is on wed/thurs. i can't imagine them not wanting to rake in some profit on an off-night. [PM]

They run that place under a tight ship, so I can understand. They actually have a board of directors calling the shots there. I can understand it because they spent $19 Million on the place.

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Originally posted by djjonas AAAAAAAAAAmen to that. I live in Dallas (well, Carrollton, so North Dallas) and my wife and I have come to the point where we hate going out in Dallas. Went to Austin this weekend and said the same thing I always do. "wish Dallas' nightlife was like it is here." But Dallas will never have that because of everything you just stated.

i honestly don't know what more you could want from Dallas' nightlife. It really has a great scene in my opinion. yes, austin is fun, but nothing about it is better than dallas. houston is a lot of fun too, but nothing really stands out over dallas there either.

if you're going out in carrollton, thats your problem right there.

stick to downtown and uptown and i have always had a good time.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. i honestly don't know what more you could want from Dallas' nightlife. It really has a great scene in my opinion. yes, austin is fun, but nothing about it is better than dallas. houston is a lot of fun too, but nothing really stands out over dallas there either. if you're going out in carrollton, thats your problem right there. stick to downtown and uptown and i have always had a good time.

Yeah, Dirk. I'm only going out in Carrollton. I just like the way things are set up in Houston and Austin. Plus, people just seem to have more fun in those towns and not always just looking for something more. I just like the energy overall more than I do in the Dallas scene. Too many posers, like you.

wantickets still has them, but groovetickets yanked sales for ATB's event at blue...

NOW what's up?

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Originally posted by djjonas Yeah, Dirk. I'm only going out in Carrollton. I just like the way things are set up in Houston and Austin. Plus, people just seem to have more fun in those towns and not always just looking for something more. I just like the energy overall more than I do in the Dallas scene. Too many posers, like you.

i like the number of bookings coming through dallas and also that i can find a house/EDM DJ any night of the week. don't care for most of the crowd, however, and love austin's attitude.

[yes, this, coming from me. ]

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Originally posted by Dirk W. i honestly don't know what more you could want from Dallas' nightlife. It really has a great scene in my opinion. yes, austin is fun, but nothing about it is better than dallas. houston is a lot of fun too, but nothing really stands out over dallas there either.

Austin scene is small but healthy... When mentioning Austin the words "plastic" nor "pretentious" never come up, maybe "hippy". That said, my friends from Dallas seem to like going out in Austin more than Dallas, b/c the people are friendlier and of course, the 'Austin' vibe. I've spent a great deal of time in both cities, but nothing in Texas compares to Austin.

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Originally posted by djjonas Too many posers, like you.

don't cry because you got picked last to play kickball.

just because we're smarter, better looking and overall know how to party harder than tommy lee on a crazy night shouldn't evoke feelings of jealousy. you should come hang out with the "posers" sometime. i give you permission. we have a lot more fun.

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Originally posted by iclone nights like tiesto and pvd have brought in a completely different crowd from the one that's typically at BLUE. imo,

Paul Van Dyk opened up for Club Blue at the grand opening. For a start they did the right thing and should of kept doing electronic dance music by bringing in big names, but they moved into rap. The week after Paul Van Dyk played Miss Elliot was going to be there which brings in gangstas, and ballas.


P.S. Working on my Platinum ballas status.

P.S. The City of Dallas is stupid as hellz.

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Blue must adheres to several conditions, including banning cellphones, installing metal detectors, increasing security, outlawing glass containers and requiring all patrons to be at least 21.

Banning Cellphones<-- stupidest thing i've heard in a long time, and that goes up against me saying some pretty stupid things. I mean this isn't fecking high school anymore City of Dallas!

Installing Metal Detectors <--- that will cost a lot of money.

P.S. To win Platinum Baller Status, one must unite the gangstas of the street with the club goers and tell the City of Dallas to stfu or arrest more people.

Time for a wake and bake session

Houston night life SUCKS.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. don't cry because you got picked last to play kickball. just because we're smarter, better looking and overall know how to party harder than tommy lee on a crazy night shouldn't evoke feelings of jealousy. you should come hang out with the "posers" sometime. i give you permission. we have a lot more fun.

I know I have permission (as if I needed it). I just haven't found a night I have nothing better to do.

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Originally posted by Benjamin_D Houston night life SUCKS.

Becareful there you are way off topic and Bashing Houston! Which is like lightning being way off and hitting yo house! fool! and this is what it might look like hahaha!!

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Originally posted by Slow Motion Austin scene is small but healthy... When mentioning Austin the words "plastic" nor "pretentious" never come up, maybe "hippy". That said, my friends from Dallas seem to like going out in Austin more than Dallas, b/c the people are friendlier and of course, the 'Austin' vibe. I've spent a great deal of time in both cities, but nothing in Texas compares to Austin.

Lance and Nic have just made my point. "healthy" is a good way to describe. Lot less BS to sift through in that scene. Yeah, the headliners all come through Dallas a little more. But the overall energy on most nights rivals that of a low grade caviar tasting.


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