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Posted by Chiclet on Nov-20-2006 03:22:

"too many asians"

[rant] OK, so I've read a lot of threads about Viva and have heard a lot of silly comments like "there are too many asians". Usually, the complaint is more to do with rude people than their race.

For the record, not all asians are rude. (duh!) If it was a majority of "white" people at the club who were assholes, you wouldn't say they were WHITE assholes, you'd just say they were assholes. I've been to plently of parties with assholes of every colour... but what I don't understand is that when the rudeness culprits are any other colour other than white, it has to be mentioned as if it's a part of why they're rude.

I just can't shake the feeling that there's this underlying racism with a lot of people when they think of going to Viva. It's always "too many asians!", and not "too many rude people", as the former is what should really matter.

What made me really sick was what this chick said to my girlfriend in the bathroom: "Oh, thank GOD... a white person!" WTF?!

Please guys, it sounds so ignorant and racist when you say things like that.

Me, I'm asian... and have been raving/clubbing for over 11 years (I just totally dated myself!) and was born and raised here. I just can't help but feel that some people might look at my skin colour and dismiss me as "one of those sktechy, rude asians".

I'm not trying to be PC police here, but I'm just trying to get you not to sound like ignorant racists, because I know (hope) you're not.

If you don't like the scene there, that's fine. But please don't make it into a race thing.

Judge not by the colour of one's skin, but the content of their assholiness! [/rant]


Posted by electro funk on Nov-20-2006 03:50:

i totally agree....its not the race or the colour, its the person. if they suck..they suck. doesnt matter what there race is. as soon as i left my hometown and was around a lot more cultures i realized this.


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:05:

Re: "too many asians"

quote:
Originally posted by Chiclet
[rant] OK, so I've read a lot of threads about Viva and have heard a lot of silly comments like "there are too many asians". Usually, the complaint is more to do with rude people than their race.

For the record, not all asians are rude. (duh!) If it was a majority of "white" people at the club who were assholes, you wouldn't say they were WHITE assholes, you'd just say they were assholes. I've been to plently of parties with assholes of every colour... but what I don't understand is that when the rudeness culprits are any other colour other than white, it has to be mentioned as if it's a part of why they're rude.

I just can't shake the feeling that there's this underlying racism with a lot of people when they think of going to Viva. It's always "too many asians!", and not "too many rude people", as the former is what should really matter.

What made me really sick was what this chick said to my girlfriend in the bathroom: "Oh, thank GOD... a white person!" WTF?!

Please guys, it sounds so ignorant and racist when you say things like that.

Me, I'm asian... and have been raving/clubbing for over 11 years (I just totally dated myself!) and was born and raised here. I just can't help but feel that some people might look at my skin colour and dismiss me as "one of those sktechy, rude asians".

I'm not trying to be PC police here, but I'm just trying to get you not to sound like ignorant racists, because I know (hope) you're not.

If you don't like the scene there, that's fine. But please don't make it into a race thing.

Judge not by the colour of one's skin, but the content of their assholiness! [/rant]


Agreed but i dont think that most people are being racist per se when they refer to "asians" at guv or viva. I think it's the type of asians that go to certain clubs in toronto that are being referred to. You dont really see 50 year old white people on drugs being overtly rude at a club (unless u go to the horseshoe tavern i guess LOL). Agreed that referring to those people as "asians" paints all asians with a bad brush however in the EDM scene in toronto the overly sketchbag ones make up a vast majority of the asian EDM clubbing community. And that makes it hard for the others such as yourself.

Again i dont agree with the label, but im trying to illustrate for you why that label is hung on "asians" as it pertains to toronto's dance club culture and why it's not always a racist comment.

I can understand your frustration though. Id personally hate to be lumped in with that crowd. YUCK!


Posted by DigitalMP on Nov-20-2006 04:09:

Re: Re: "too many asians"

Jay, you are one annoying cracker!


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:09:

Further comment on what you said...

When i go to a party with rude white people i usually say they are a bunch of ginos LOL

And that person in the bathroom needs a beatdown because that clearly was a racist remark.


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:10:

Re: Re: Re: "too many asians"

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
Jay, you are one annoying cracker!



LOL... shuddup yanqui!


Posted by _EuG_ on Nov-20-2006 04:12:

i have been to viva sevral times and i enjoyed it very much. I do understand why some white people dont wana go there or say that "too many asians". I dont think that they mean to be racist or mean or have any problem that asian people like to party there. It is just a little bit wierd when you are a minority in the club. I mean if a white guy would go to an real gangsta club all black thugs he would feel wierd. Or if a straight guy would end up in a gay pick up bar, he would also feel wierd.

So i think when people say that its too many asians its more like saying i wish that it was more of a mixed crowd so i dont feel like an outsider.


Ohh and some of the Viva patrons actualy do make you feel like an outsider, i personanly didnt have an issue but one of my friends was approached by some 16 year old kids who enjoyed letting him know that we are the only non asians in the astablisment at that time


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:14:

at first it was strange for me when i went to viva because yes i wasnt used to it. But that feeling went away after literally 10 minutes.

Some of the "asian" comments for sure are racism but i think that most of them arent. Its just a way people describe who they are talking about.

Marcia, even annie does the "guv asian dance" when shes making fun of them and shes asian LOL!!


Posted by _EuG_ on Nov-20-2006 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
at first it was strange for me when i went to viva because yes i wasnt used to it. But that feeling went away after literally 10 minutes.


ye same here...

but some people are not as open minded, and they cant let loose


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by _EuG_
ye same here...

but some people are not as open minded, and they cant let loose


thats kinda sad...


Posted by Sasha on Nov-20-2006 04:19:

Russians are the crappiest people ever. everyone else i can deal with!


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:19:

150 views in under an hour and no one's touching this topic with a 10 foot pole LOL

seriously guys, she raises a good point worth discussing


Posted by _EuG_ on Nov-20-2006 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
thats kinda sad...


people like that should stick in the top 40 scene but they like thier guvernment and are not willing to explore the other good clubs cuz of the Asians or the Gays or the Sketchbags

i realy hate it when i hear someone that i know say things like this...

The party scene should be about acceptence and leaving all judgements at the door.


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:26:

no one should tolerate sketchbags of any kind..

they ruin the party


Posted by _EuG_ on Nov-20-2006 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
no one should tolerate sketchbags of any kind..

they ruin the party


sketchbag is a very broad term... some levels of sketchbagness make the party and others break the party


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 04:31:

im talking about being zombied out and oblivious to the world around u because u are too fucked up. The types that come for the drugs and nothing else.


Posted by Orbitus on Nov-20-2006 04:54:

Personally I love Asians. Especially the women they are sooooo beautiful. I say the more the better.
But like some of the others already said, I think it's more of a descriptive term than actual racism (in most cases). I don't think there's anything wrong with the words white, black, asian or whatever. But it does depend on the context of course. One thing I've learned living all over the world is that people are the same where ever you go. Good and bad.


Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-20-2006 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbitus
Personally I love Asians. Especially the women they are sooooo beautiful. I say the more the better.
But like some of the others already said, I think it's more of a descriptive term than actual racism (in most cases). I don't think there's anything wrong with the words white, black, asian or whatever. But it does depend on the context of course. One thing I've learned living all over the world is that people are the same where ever you go. Good and bad.


100% agreed


Posted by monkey_keymo on Nov-20-2006 05:01:


Posted by monishb on Nov-20-2006 05:17:

hey i diss white people also, for their overly accurate politics.

marcia you just have to learn to ignore ignorant people!


Posted by Engine9 on Nov-20-2006 05:19:

asians support the EDM/trance scene more then any1 in this city, props to them


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Nov-20-2006 05:29:

if it wasnt for asians we wouldnt have the roland tr 808 drum machine, a huge improvisation in EDM


so respect


Posted by Scorpion4231 on Nov-20-2006 05:30:

why would you say somthing like that?
quote:
Originally posted by Sasha
Russians are the crappiest people ever. everyone else i can deal with!


Posted by Dr. Z on Nov-20-2006 05:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
150 views in under an hour and no one's touching this topic with a 10 foot pole LOL

seriously guys, she raises a good point worth discussing


there is nothing to discuss here

lets be honest
there are ALOT of asians there

and this is not a racist remark,

so naturally, outsiders do not migrate there


i just dont see why white people have anything to do with this, for the same reason there are no black people there, or brown, or whichever

if you're sad because your club is not 'cool' enough, go elsewhere

this shouldn't even be an issue


Posted by Scorpion4231 on Nov-20-2006 05:31:

Asian Girls are HOT!!!


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