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Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-26-2006 03:41:

The Fountain - Movie

I don't think it's been discussed on here but I am wondering who saw the movie "The Fountain" yet? It's a great movie IMO, much better than the critics rated it. Surely it's not the type of movie that is just meant to be entertaining, it's much deeper, much more artistic and surrealistic. Love the visual effects, and although some parts some people might think are way out there, or just plain weird, I found inspiring and evocative.

The movie raises many questions about death, rebirth, creation and the quest for immortality. It's definitely not a movie that spoonfeeds you everything, it's alot like Donnie Darko that you go away from it, trying to make sense of what it is about. But I think I liked this movie even better than Donnie Darko. Don't want this thread to be a bunch of "this movie sucks!" type of thing, because I know it's the type of movie that you either love it, or hate it, like Donnie Darko is.


Posted by Sunsnail on Nov-26-2006 03:43:

It looks neat, but I don't watch too many movies. I'm eager to read other peoples' thoughts on the film.


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-26-2006 03:46:

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Originally posted by Sunsnail
It looks neat, but I don't watch too many movies. I'm eager to read other peoples' thoughts on the film.


Yeah it was. I don't watch too many movies either but this is the type of film I love, the type that is artistic and thoughtful and not just entertaining for entertainment's sake. Some of the people in the theater clearly thought it was too over their head and probably didn't read up on the film before they saw it. Definitely something you have to know what your getting yourself into before you see it..and have to be open minded.


Posted by D-res on Nov-26-2006 03:49:

had the opportunity to see it last night with a couple buddies but we were about 15 minutes late and decided to get food instead. I'll have to check it out, although I've heard almost nothing about it, you guys make it sound interesting.


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-26-2006 03:53:

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Originally posted by D-res
had the opportunity to see it last night with a couple buddies but we were about 15 minutes late and decided to get food instead. I'll have to check it out, although I've heard almost nothing about it, you guys make it sound interesting.


Yeah it is interesting and D-Res I know you like philosophy too so I know it's the type of movie you'd enjoy. There's alot to think about walking away from the movie, but you might want to see it more than once for it to make complete sense, kind of like Donnie Darko. But for some reason I still don't completely get that movie, this one seemed to make a little more sense to me (though it probably made NO sense to the people in the theater).


Posted by D-res on Nov-26-2006 04:21:

Just watched a trailer and a few clips. Looked really thought-provoking to say the least. I had no idea it was another Darren Aronofsky film. I'm definitely going to have to take the time to see it sometime this week.


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-26-2006 04:25:

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Originally posted by D-res
Just watched a trailer and a few clips. Looked really thought-provoking to say the least. I had no idea it was another Darren Aronofsky film. I'm definitely going to have to take the time to see it sometime this week.


Yeah if you liked Requiem For A Dream or Pi you will like this. I really wish there were more filmakers out there like him. I've been contemplating whether to get into filmaking-directing or at least screenwriting myself, as I really don't think I want to be a psychologist for my whole career. Though I still want a degree in psychology as it might be beneficial to the things I want to do. The movie is similar to this short novel i've been writing, that i'm planning to make into a screenplay in the future when I have time.


Posted by D-res on Nov-26-2006 04:35:

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Originally posted by Spirit5
Yeah if you liked Requiem For A Dream or Pi you will like this. I really wish there were more filmakers out there like him. I've been contemplating whether to get into filmaking-directing or at least screenwriting myself, as I really don't think I want to be a psychologist for my whole career. Though I still want a degree in psychology as it might be beneficial to the things I want to do. The movie is similar to this short novel i've been writing, that i'm planning to make into a screenplay in the future when I have time.



I went into college for film but although I love watching this style of movie, I'm not... "creative" enough for it myself. My school has a top 10 film dept that strongly supports independent film making (shameless school promotion). I, however, lost interest and now I'm moving on to something else. I loved video editing in HS and was actually really good at it, but the artsy-symbolic stuff they taught us here bored me to death. Now I'm stuck on a half dozen other things I wanna do with my life.

Nevertheless, this movie looks bomb


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-26-2006 04:41:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
I went into college for film but although I love watching this style of movie, I'm not... "creative" enough for it myself. My school has a top 10 film dept that strongly supports independent film making (shameless school promotion). I, however, lost interest and now I'm moving on to something else. I loved video editing in HS and was actually really good at it, but the artsy-symbolic stuff they taught us here bored me to death. Now I'm stuck on a half dozen other things I wanna do with my life.

Nevertheless, this movie looks bomb


Yeah the problem with me is that i'm too creative for psychology, and have too much ideas up here (since I was a young kid) that I really ought to persue something where I can actually use my creativity. Filmaking is always something that has fascinated me, but I don't think I'm adept enough at it, nor experienced to jump right into it. But perhaps I can minor in creative writing, get into some screen writing and apply some of the stuff i've learned in psychology to my movies. Aronofsky's style is so similar to my own. I tried making a 5 minute film for a Mass Media class in high school that was quite different from what everyone else did. It was quite arty. So that's about it as far as experience goes. I could barely hold the camera straight...should have used a tripod if my mom had one.


Posted by DjConfessions on Nov-26-2006 05:41:

i heard the movie is visually great and Hugh Jackson is wonderful as always. But I hear the fault lies in repetition of themes/scenes throughout the 3 generations of the film. But i must see it!


Posted by weymouth on Nov-26-2006 06:03:

Saw it today. You have to be prepared for a movie like this. I would advise not going late at night and I would advise reading commentary on the movie afterwards to fill in holes you didn't understand. The trailer for the movie was done very badly, which makes the audience confused as to the three time settings. It is a beautiful movie and makes you think quite a bit. You will either like it or hate it though, no indifferent or ok responses. It is very artsy and not a typical Hugh Jackman role. If you like action and a great plot I would recommend seeing Jackman's Prestige over this but if you like artsy, sad, and thought-provoking I would suggest this.

I give it a C+ though, so it wasn't the best, but worth it to see the visuals on the big screen.


Posted by jupiterone on Nov-26-2006 07:01:

James Bond owns every movie this year hands down


Posted by stren on Nov-26-2006 11:10:

I'm gonna see it for sure, but I expect to be dissapointed. Its gonna be hard to top Requiem for a dream.


Posted by weymouth on Nov-26-2006 17:20:

Reading Spirit5's responses to this movie and remember reading all his responses to The Binary Universe in the CD Discussion forum make me think that once this movie comes out on DVD, I'm gonna have to play the BT cd along with the movie. =)


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-26-2006 23:48:

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Originally posted by weymouth
Reading Spirit5's responses to this movie and remember reading all his responses to The Binary Universe in the CD Discussion forum make me think that once this movie comes out on DVD, I'm gonna have to play the BT cd along with the movie. =)


Yeah but the movie's soundtrack itself is quite nice. I just bought it today. The track that was played throughout is quite eerie called "Stay With Me". The soundtrack was done by Clint Mansell, and the Kronos Quartet with Mogwai and some of the tracks are a variation of the theme from that particular track. Quite minimalistic and melancholy. If you don't like sad music, it isn't for you, it wont cheer you up haha. Same with the movie, though I found parts of it quite inspiring. The music is perfect for the film, though I think Ulrich Schnauss's music would work very well in it and BT's "This Binary Universe".

It's definitely not a perfect film, but what makes it so good is that it's not just entertaining for entertainment's sake, but is truly a piece of art and was unique. I wish more movies were like this one, even if they aren't accepted by the mainstream. One of the reasons why lately i've thought about getting into screenwriting and directing over psychology, but like I said in an earlier post, I might apply my background in psychology to film and novels. I'm not a perfect writer either. I guess it's the flaws which can make something so surrealistic and otherworldy as this film, seem human. There was definitely a human element in it as well.


Posted by capricorn15 on Nov-27-2006 18:25:

ive been looking forward to watching this movie for over a year now, but i didnt get a chance to watch it last week for some reason. hopefully i can check it out tonight or wednesday night. i saw some reviews that weren't too favorable of the movie, but i dont really care, i like the directors previous two films so this one should be good


Posted by kush paintings on Nov-27-2006 19:12:

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Originally posted by Spirit5
I wish more movies were like this one, even if they aren't accepted by the mainstream. One of the reasons why lately i've thought about getting into screenwriting and directing over psychology, but like I said in an earlier post, I might apply my background in psychology to film and novels. I'm not a perfect writer either. I guess it's the flaws which can make something so surrealistic and otherworldy as this film, seem human. There was definitely a human element in it as well.


I have basically become obsessed with screen writing, and as you have alluded to your desires to do so (or directing) in 3 posts in just this thread I am sure you have a similar passion. Screen writing is something that on the surface seems fairly simple and straightforward, but after seeing an editor for the first time I can assure you it involves so much depth and is extremely difficult. That being said the skill set for directing and screen writing are a little different, so if you aren't a great writer and perhaps enjoy the technical aspects of films more, directing is for you.

Going back to the movie, I really want to see it, especially after reading an interview with the director/writer in a magazine. I guess he has been trying to get this thing made for many years now and in fact rewrote a good bit of it after Brad Pitt dropped the project. I am curious as to exactly how well the visuals worked, as due to budget constraints and anti-cgi sentiments of the director, I guess they went about creating some of the backdrops in very innovative and intersting ways. I guess the space ship or something used a very cool background, which actually was done with time lapsed photos of chemical reactions. Pretty cool stuff.


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-27-2006 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
I have basically become obsessed with screen writing, and as you have alluded to your desires to do so (or directing) in 3 posts in just this thread I am sure you have a similar passion. Screen writing is something that on the surface seems fairly simple and straightforward, but after seeing an editor for the first time I can assure you it involves so much depth and is extremely difficult. That being said the skill set for directing and screen writing are a little different, so if you aren't a great writer and perhaps enjoy the technical aspects of films more, directing is for you.


I definitely am more of the creative type vs the technical type. What I probably am going to do is get a degree in psychology (Masters and eventually a PhD perhaps or not...) and take some screenwriting classes, perhaps some creative writing and directing. After being a pscyhologist for about 10 years, I want to write in that time and hopefully have enough material to start making some movies. I'm not the best writer in the world, but I am certaintly more competent than some other people. My biggest problem is tense agreements, as I start writing in third and switch to first and back to third, not even thinking about it. Haha I didn't start realizing I did that until after a creative writing class my sophmore year in high school. I may not have as big of a problem with that in screen writing though..


Posted by Magnus on Nov-27-2006 22:28:

I was excited for this movie all year long. Sadly I was disappointed. I loved Pi and Requiem but this movie just didn't do it for me. I don't think it was really the movie Aronofsky intended for it to be after the 6 years of bullshit he went through with the studios, actors, and budgets.


Posted by kush paintings on Nov-27-2006 23:32:

Actually, I would say it would have to be, as it was solely on his shoulders by the end. Sure he had budget constraints, but if the movie failed, it would be hard to say it wasn't on him.


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-28-2006 03:23:

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Originally posted by Magnus
I was excited for this movie all year long. Sadly I was disappointed. I loved Pi and Requiem but this movie just didn't do it for me. I don't think it was really the movie Aronofsky intended for it to be after the 6 years of bullshit he went through with the studios, actors, and budgets.


See I didn't really follow the development of this movie. I only found out about it a few weeks ago during the previews when I saw Borat. I haven't seen Pi or Requiem, so I can't compare this to them yet. I heard they were good films and have read up on their premises. I can tell you that this movie's premise, to me at least, was more interesting and the elements in the film really stood out. Just the emotional and evocative appeal of the movie is what makes it stand out, even if it's not a perfect film. It just gives you a sense of "awe" that I feel is missing in a lot of films, as many follow the same formula.


Posted by Fork on Nov-28-2006 05:31:

Yes I like these spacy sci-fi flicks. The chimey metalliuc ambient music was really nice. Sounde dlike they were banging forks againsta pot or something


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-28-2006 05:58:

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Originally posted by Fork
Yes I like these spacy sci-fi flicks. The chimey metalliuc ambient music was really nice. Sounde dlike they were banging forks againsta pot or something


Haha the music is a combination of violins and cellos, pianos and some light synths and some guitars in the background on some tracks. I bought the soundtrack to it on Sunday. It was composed by Clint Mansell.


Posted by rufio_87 on Nov-28-2006 07:08:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
(shameless school promotion)


+1


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-28-2006 07:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
Haha the music is a combination of violins and cellos, pianos and some light synths and some guitars in the background on some tracks. I bought the soundtrack to it on Sunday. It was composed by Clint Mansell.


i've been searching for a full version of Mansell's 'Party' on the Requiem for a Dream score for AAAAGGGGEEESS. my only progress has been finding a 00:36 sec to replace the 00:28


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