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Posted by darouge11 on Dec-24-2006 01:30:

Is Borat Racist?

Is he concidered a racist....i mean hes always talking about throwing the jew down the wells and shit but hes jewish is he not???


no offence to anybody hee its just and example....

Epople call him racist and some people say hes not, whats your take on it?


Posted by dallastar on Dec-24-2006 01:33:

borat as a character - I would say yes to some extent.

Sacha Baron Cohen - NO!


Posted by King Luis on Dec-24-2006 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by dallastar
borat as a character - I would say yes to some extent.

Sacha Baron Cohen - NO!


end thread.


Posted by milos on Dec-24-2006 01:44:

why are there so many stupid (and stupid looking) polish people


Posted by Cribby on Dec-24-2006 01:46:

No. On the other hand, Dallas is racist


Posted by dallastar on Dec-24-2006 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Cribby
No. On the other hand, Dallas is racist


Sexxy time, High- five!!!


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Dec-24-2006 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by dallastar
borat as a character - I would say yes to some extent.

Sacha Baron Cohen - NO!


of course he's racist against khazaki people, hes trying to say that most khazaki's act like that. But its probably true.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Dec-24-2006 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
hes trying to say that most khazaki's act like that. But its probably true.


most stupid comment of the day


Posted by devnull on Dec-24-2006 02:19:

all borat is : awesome

end of story


Posted by Shade on Dec-24-2006 02:24:

Personally I think Sascha's aim was to make a satire of common viewpoints and stereotypes (especially American ones) - however I think his work is too frequently misinterpreted and/or taken in a poor manner. I'm personally not a fan of his for the simple reason that I don't feel I gain anything except short term laughs - I might even say watching his show/movie(s) would make me stupid (Don't take that literally).

He is Jewish and as a result his work - at least towards Jews - is viewed as "acceptable" by some. Personally I think that this viewpoint would be ok if you didn't have over 50% of the people who watch his shows/movies not understanding the point and just taking everything in at face value (aka worthless crap).

From what I see, there are way too many kids running around repeating what they saw in the Borat movie or watching Ali G or whatever the case may be without really understanding what Sascha was trying to get at; this, unfortunately, negates the concept in mind and ends up promoting racism (too many kids don't know any better than to really understand what they're saying).

Overall, I don't see Sascha as blatantly racist. I think he's a smart man with - at the very least - a decent idea in mind. That way too many people take it the wrong way is an issue on its own, but there will always be people who will senselessly repeat whatever a movie says.


Posted by darouge11 on Dec-24-2006 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by milos
why are there so many stupid (and stupid looking) polish people


do shut up


Posted by FunkyCrew on Dec-24-2006 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by darouge11
do shut up


polkraine to the rescue


Posted by skyler on Dec-24-2006 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by milos
why are there so many stupid (and stupid looking) polish people
probably, because women from your society could not give birth to anything better after they got fucked by the Poles,


and now...































































yes, yes, you think good...
































































































fuck off you ****


Posted by darouge11 on Dec-24-2006 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
polkraine to the rescue


yes!!!!!

alliances are being formed...and soon people will be kicked off the island


Posted by Sasha on Dec-24-2006 02:55:

i think ur avatar is racist


Posted by dallastar on Dec-24-2006 03:16:

some say I am racist

but I am not!


Posted by 7-4-7 on Dec-24-2006 03:20:

no. He is sexist, racist, an anti-semite, socially awkward, archaic and also a character on a show.


Posted by Cribby on Dec-24-2006 03:28:

Re: Is Borat Racist?

quote:
Originally posted by darouge11
Epople


what?


Posted by petro on Dec-24-2006 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by skyler
probably, because women from your society could not give birth to anything better after they got fucked by the Poles,

and now...

yes, yes, you think good...

fuck off you ****



yet another stupid polish post


Posted by nusty on Dec-24-2006 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
Personally I think Sascha's aim was to make a satire of common viewpoints and stereotypes (especially American ones) - however I think his work is too frequently misinterpreted and/or taken in a poor manner. I'm personally not a fan of his for the simple reason that I don't feel I gain anything except short term laughs - I might even say watching his show/movie(s) would make me stupid (Don't take that literally).

He is Jewish and as a result his work - at least towards Jews - is viewed as "acceptable" by some. Personally I think that this viewpoint would be ok if you didn't have over 50% of the people who watch his shows/movies not understanding the point and just taking everything in at face value (aka worthless crap).

From what I see, there are way too many kids running around repeating what they saw in the Borat movie or watching Ali G or whatever the case may be without really understanding what Sascha was trying to get at; this, unfortunately, negates the concept in mind and ends up promoting racism (too many kids don't know any better than to really understand what they're saying).

Overall, I don't see Sascha as blatantly racist. I think he's a smart man with - at the very least - a decent idea in mind. That way too many people take it the wrong way is an issue on its own, but there will always be people who will senselessly repeat whatever a movie says.


+1.
The guy has a masters from Christ's College, University of Cambridge for History and wrote his dissertation on Jewish involvement in the American Civil Rights movement.


Posted by shortymanda on Dec-24-2006 04:46:

"borat" is jewish tho, no? so its all jokes


Posted by kristydoll27 on Dec-24-2006 04:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
of course he's racist against khazaki people, hes trying to say that most khazaki's act like that. But its probably true.


I disagree, I think you should take his impersonation for what it is: a comic exaggeration stereotyping people from Khakistan (or more like people from the old Soviet Republic), much like the guys from MAD TV or In Living Colour do/did for blacks, whites and asians...if anything Borat exposes the racism that is prevalent across America. It's amazing how people show their true sentiments when they think they have met a like minded person.


Posted by kristydoll27 on Dec-24-2006 05:05:

Re: Is Borat Racist?

quote:
Originally posted by darouge11
Is he concidered a racist....i mean hes always talking about throwing the jew down the wells and shit but hes jewish is he not???


no offence to anybody hee its just and example....

Epople call him racist and some people say hes not, whats your take on it?


Sacha Baron Cohen can get away with saying things about Jews because he's Jewish, much like blacks can call each other "nigga/er". That's just the way it is. Instead of finding it offensive or questioning his sentiments, appreciate it for what it does: exposes the racist sentiments prevalent in todays society. Despite mass efforts to be politically correct (i.e. Happy Holidays vs. Merry Christmas) many people harbor animosity internally that occasionally becomes unleased (i.e. Kramer, Mel) and the character of Borat facilitates an outlet for these feelings.


Posted by Euphorica on Dec-24-2006 05:19:

LOL he is jewish...


Posted by FunkyCrew on Dec-24-2006 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by kristydoll27
if anything Borat exposes the racism that is prevalent across America. It's amazing how people show their true sentiments when they think they have met a like minded person.


precisely

i'm amazed how people fail to miss this obvious point the whole point of this movie is to expose the true colors of the American society


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