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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-07-2007 05:52:

Psychiatrists are pushers

Had a psychiatrist appointment, my first ever. It was less than five minutes long and then I walked out with some new anti-depressant meds.

They're more eager to sell their shit than "real" dealers are.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-07-2007 05:54:

what'd you get?


Posted by Yan on Jan-07-2007 05:54:

Re: Psychiatrists are pushers

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Had a psychiatrist appointment, my first ever. It was less than five minutes long and then I walked out with some new anti-depressant meds.

They're more eager to sell their shit than "real" dealers are.


You sure you're just not really gullible, is all?

5 minutes sure is a short time. Shrinking the story to overdramatize or you serious?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-07-2007 05:55:

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You sure you're just not really gullible, is all?

Considering it didn't cost me anything but the co-pay to get them, no, gullibility is not an issue here.

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5 minutes sure is a short time. Shrinking the story to overdramatize or you serious?

Completely serious.

The pills are Lexapro. I'm not going to take them.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-07-2007 05:55:

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Originally posted by Yan
You sure you're just not really gullible, is all?

5 minutes sure is a short time. Shrinking the story to overdramatize or you serious?


no hes serious. welcome to modern medicine. I'venever been to a psychiatrist but alot of my family are psychiatrists and physicians and doctors and work for med companies and theyll all tell you, doctors are legal drug pushers


a physician has 1 job, to determine if its a virus or bacterial. if its bacterial theyll give you anti-biotics if its viral theyll tell you to go home and get lost of sleep and rest. but most of the time theyll just prescribe anti's just in case


Posted by Yan on Jan-07-2007 06:00:

G-d damn.

That's just horrible.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-07-2007 06:02:

I had a friend that went to a psychiatrist and i got angry at her cause she bought what the doc said and she went on anti-depressants. I knew just by knowing her she wasnt clinically depressed. but whatever she goton the meds and styoped 2 months later cause they werent doing shit. I ended up teaching her a few things and her life did a complete 360. psychiatrists are bs. biochemical and med companies are manufacturers and doctors are their pushers. its big money. the truth is 90% of the time cases can be solved by understanding how ur mind works. but because doc's get huge incentives from these drug companies and theyre always so overbooked and the more ppl they see the more $$ they get, theyd rather just prescribe u the shit, push you out the door, collect their pay and drive home in their mercedes.


and thats the failure of our society. right there! we'd rather get paid big money by doing a half assed job and cutting corners. its the american way.

Quantity over quality....quantity over quality


Posted by TheWhiteQueen on Jan-07-2007 06:05:

Re: Psychiatrists are pushers

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Had a psychiatrist appointment, my first ever. It was less than five minutes long and then I walked out with some new anti-depressant meds.

They're more eager to sell their shit than "real" dealers are.


SSRIs kill your sex drive. They tried to push that shit onto me and I said "helllll no, sex is all i have left"


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-07-2007 06:11:


Posted by Yan on Jan-07-2007 06:11:

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Originally posted by Abercrombie




Great post.


Posted by bas on Jan-07-2007 06:12:

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Originally posted by Abercrombie

I've studied the science, Matt.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-07-2007 06:15:


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-07-2007 06:15:

meh. what exactly do you expect a doctor to do? if you werent properly sick & needing prescription medication, why go to a doctor at all? people always looking for others to hold their hand through life if youre not smart enough to decide for yourself how well a medication is working, then tough shit.


Posted by Marc Summers on Jan-07-2007 06:17:

A psychiatrist is someone who deals with the treatment behavioral issues and mental illnesses. Now most of the treatment is aided by medications along with counseling.

I've been going to a counselor for years to deal with anger management issues. She can't give me medication, only a psychiatrist can, and that can only happen after an evaluation.

I've never gone to a psychiatrist because there is no way in hell I'll take meds.


Posted by DjConfessions on Jan-07-2007 06:20:

I've taken a shitload of meds for depression, socialphobia, crazy/schizo, hallucinations, and insomnia for the past 5 years and they dont do shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you are feeling depressed, take their meds, watch Jackass 2 Unrated, go out, meet some people and if you are still feeling like shit, kill yourself. You lost a Connect-4 Game with God in purgatory you are doomed to a life of cockshit. Your seratonin sucks dick and DJ Tiesto will not save your life

You don't want to get fucked up to my stage where I'm dreaming about killing my family. It's by chance that a thread like this popped up in light of my last night on earth


Posted by Lilith on Jan-07-2007 06:21:

Yeah but they give it to little kids quite a lot when some ditz parent wanders in thinking their kids got 'problems'.
"Oh young Bobby is too hyperactive, doesnt pay attention, depressed, does bad at school" = Dope them with something
Basically all the normal parts of being a kid and they don't get any say in the matter and ignoring the fact that for the last however many 1000's of years we've been having offspring and managed to actually raise them to some level of normality without having them wandering about the place stoned off their head.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-07-2007 06:21:

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Originally posted by Marc Summers
I've never gone to a psychiatrist because there is no way in hell I'll take meds.


i think its attitudes like this that have prevented mental health from becoming a seriously considered area of healthcare. there are SO many different meds out there; to write them all off just like that is a bit extreme.

i find attitudes like this a bit funny on a website where we're all discussing party drugs ad nauseum


Posted by Marc Summers on Jan-07-2007 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i think its attitudes like this that have prevented mental health from becoming a seriously considered area of healthcare. there are SO many different meds out there; to write them all off just like that is a bit extreme.

i find attitudes like this a bit funny on a website where we're all discussing party drugs ad nauseum


Well, drugs are fun as hell.

These medications work, don't get me wrong. My sister takes them, my father takes them. Of course they went through a series of medications before they found one that worked. I saw significant changes when they were put on these medications and went through counseling.

The only reason I don't take medication is because I can solve my problems by counting to 10... Breathing deeply... all without losing my cool. If it got any worse, like myself physically beating someone else, yeah.... Medication might be a good idea But I'm patient, and I have been fortunate to have other options besides medication.

In my eyes, medication for mental issues is a last resort, always.


Posted by tranceDJ on Jan-07-2007 07:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
Well, drugs are fun as hell.

These medications work, don't get me wrong. My sister takes them, my father takes them. Of course they went through a series of medications before they found one that worked. I saw significant changes when they were put on these medications and went through counseling.

The only reason I don't take medication is because I can solve my problems by counting to 10... Breathing deeply... all without losing my cool. If it got any worse, like myself physically beating someone else, yeah.... Medication might be a good idea But I'm patient, and I have been fortunate to have other options besides medication.

In my eyes, medication for mental issues is a last resort, always.


I really think we all have the strength to manipulate our own brains and moods even if we have a so-called "chemical imbalance"...I believe in the separation of the brain and "mind", whatever is going on in the physical brain should be able to be manipulated with one's "mind." That is if you have a strong enough mind.

And probably the most fucked up thing about anti-depressents...THEY PUT LABELS ON THEM SAYING "YOU MAY FEEL SUICIDAL."
Now come on, if you're going to make an anti-depressant medication, at least make it well enough that one of the potential side effects isn't DEPRESSION so bad it could lead to SUICIDE. I understand this is sometimes a result of patients abruptly stopping their meds but it's things like this about the drug industry that just blow my mind.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jan-07-2007 07:14:

This is definitely one topic that scientology has a lot of merit in...


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-07-2007 07:23:

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Originally posted by tranceDJ
I really think we all have the strength to manipulate our own brains and moods even if we have a so-called "chemical imbalance"...I believe in the separation of the brain and "mind", whatever is going on in the physical brain should be able to be manipulated with one's "mind." That is if you have a strong enough mind.


oh goody! you believe it, it must be true maybe i can use my mind to grow my leg back that was cut off. if my mind was strong enough of course. arseclown.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-07-2007 07:24:

Re: Re: Psychiatrists are pushers

quote:
Originally posted by TheWhiteQueen
SSRIs kill your sex drive. They tried to push that shit onto me and I said "helllll no, sex is all i have left"

Sex drive is already dead and gone.


Posted by Lilith on Jan-07-2007 07:35:

quote:
Concern at overuse of happy pills in children
William Birnbauer
January 7, 2007


MORE than 337,000 antidepressant prescriptions were written for children in a year, raising fears that the so-called happy pills are being overused as a quick fix for despondent youngsters.

Drugs such as the serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) - which include Prozac - have been linked with suicidal thoughts and behaviour in youths.

But, while Australia's drug regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administration, has not approved any antidepressant medicines for under-18s, it cannot prevent doctors from prescribing them.

Medicare Australia figures from the 2005-06 financial year reveal 75,500 prescriptions for antidepressants were written for children under 15, with a further 262,000 for youths aged 15 to 20. In NSW alone, 23,214 scripts were written in the under-14 age group, with 76,234 in the 15-20 age group.

The increasing prescription of Prozac to young people has raised fears it will become the new Ritalin - the drug of choice for a spate of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder in diagnoses of youngsters in the 1990s.

Psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg believes that medication is beneficial, an important adjunct to drug-free treatments such as cognitive behaviour therapy.

"There are kids on this planet today whom I've treated who simply wouldn't be here if it wasn't for antidepressants," Dr Carr-Gregg said.

But psychiatrist George Halasz sees the increasing use of antidepressants as evidence of "diagnostic creep".

Whereas sadness was once simply sadness and shyness was shyness, today they were diagnosed as depression and social phobia, respectively, and treated with a pill.

"As we have less time to attend to natural transitions and natural stresses, there is very strong demand on the medical profession to alleviate suffering," Dr Halasz said.

NSW Institute of Psychiatry director Louise Newman has seen children as young as three and four with depression.

"Sometimes people wish that there's an easy solution and they don't have to look at issues like parenting or have a lot of psychological therapies," Dr Newman said.


Source: The Sun-Herald

Thats a lot considering the population is around 6.8million in NSW


Posted by Psy-T on Jan-07-2007 07:39:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
oh goody! you believe it, it must be true maybe i can use my mind to grow my leg back that was cut off. if my mind was strong enough of course. arseclown.


eh, c'mon, who has more control of his happiness and is generally happier, a man who spent a year meditating, or a man who spent a year on the most suitable medication developed? (with both being equally depressed before the year)


Posted by chach on Jan-07-2007 07:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T


psyt your a baller...


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