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Posted by agentdansmith on Mar-15-2007 10:20:

Which mixer - £650 budget

I'm looking into replacing my DXM06 mixer near the end of the year and my budget will hopefully be around £600-650.

So, I've been looking at the A&H Ozone62 and the Pioneer DJM600.

Can any of you guys give me some recommendations on which mixer you would buy with that budget? It doesn't have to be one of the two above but these seem to be the obvious choices.

My current setup is just 2 x CDJ1000 mk2 and DXM06 mixer, I like to use effects and I mix various styles including trance, techno, electro and minimal.

Cheers


Posted by Mmanu on Mar-15-2007 14:17:

DENON DNX 1500


Posted by Omega_Blue on Mar-15-2007 14:21:

prolly the pio, i'm not a big fan of the AH62


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-15-2007 14:38:

Damn for 650...can't you get the pio-800??


Posted by agentdansmith on Mar-15-2007 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
prolly the pio, i'm not a big fan of the AH62


Any reasons why you're not keen on the AH62?

I do like the look of that Denon one but I haven't heard anything about it and I'd like to go for something which has a good reputation.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Mar-15-2007 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
Any reasons why you're not keen on the AH62?

I do like the look of that Denon one but I haven't heard anything about it and I'd like to go for something which has a good reputation.


i've heard bad things about the denon but then again it could just be all the haters that dislike denon products..

personally i didn't like the 4 band eq, i thought it was unneccessary (though nice). the filters are freakin awesome on the AH but those aren't really necessary. the other thing i really didn't like is there's no blend function on the AH. makes mixing in the headphones a headache. while i'm personally not a pio whore, i like the djm-600. sounds good, nice big knobs, nice cueing system, onboard effects.


Posted by agentdansmith on Mar-15-2007 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue the other thing i really didn't like is there's no blend function on the AH. makes mixing in the headphones a headache.


Do you mean that you can't control the volume of of current playing track in your headphones? Another words, both tracks have to play at full volume in your headphones? Or am I missing something?

This would be a nightmare for me as I like to beatmatch within the headphones.


Posted by andydavey on Mar-15-2007 18:02:

Not specifically, but you can work round it slightly by monitoring the aux bus, setting all the sends to pre-fade and using the pots at the top of each channel to control the level of each source in your headphones. Obviously this isn't going to work if you need to use the aux send for other things though.


Posted by Rebel Brown on Mar-15-2007 18:14:

If you're buying new, I wouldn't get the 600. The sound quality just doesn't cut it when compared to others in that price range. Don't get me wrong it's a work horse and has been proven in clubs all over the world, but personally I just think that if you're spending over £600 on a mixer then sound quality is pretty high on my list.


Out of the two I would get the A&H, but definately take a look at the Ecler Nuo 4 and Nuo 5 too.


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-15-2007 18:16:

Ecler Nuo 4 (maybe a little closer to $700)
Pioneer DJM 400 (around $500)
Mackie d.2 (around $600)
A&H's Xone32 (around $650)


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-15-2007 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
Damn for 650...can't you get the pio-800??
'

650 x 2 yeah you can...if only he had another $650


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-15-2007 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
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650 x 2 yeah you can...if only he had another $650


But he's using pounds, not dollars.

Which = around $1300


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-15-2007 20:09:

ugh, never a Nuo for me...no ecler until they fix their EQ.

nasty

no denon either. nasty delay on the faders


Posted by agentdansmith on Mar-15-2007 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
ugh, never a Nuo for me...no ecler until they fix their EQ.

nasty

no denon either. nasty delay on the faders


What's up with their EQ's? And which Nuo was that on?

I'm only asking as I've just read an excellent review on the Nuo 4.


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-15-2007 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
What's up with their EQ's? And which Nuo was that on?

I'm only asking as I've just read an excellent review on the Nuo 4.



I hate the midrange EQ band on all the Nuos... the bass and treb barely cut anything and the midrange is just huge.


ugly imo


Posted by agentdansmith on Mar-15-2007 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by andydavey
Not specifically, but you can work round it slightly by monitoring the aux bus, setting all the sends to pre-fade and using the pots at the top of each channel to control the level of each source in your headphones. Obviously this isn't going to work if you need to use the aux send for other things though.


OK, that doesn't sound too bad. But does that mean that I would never be able to add an effects unit later on?

What's crack with this VCF filter then? As this seems to be the only effect whereas the Nuo5 has loads.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Mar-15-2007 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
But he's using pounds, not dollars.

Which = around $1300


The RRP of a DJM800 in the UK is £1099

You'll be doing well to get one for £1000.


Jarv


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-16-2007 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
But he's using pounds, not dollars.

Which = around $1300


Oh I see...my bad..


Posted by cbrendan on Mar-16-2007 04:30:

+ 1 for the xone62. Had one, loved it and then sold it for a djm800.

the eqs on the djm 800 dont come close to the eqs on the xone, and all in all the xone just felt nicer. The filters where AMAZING.

Get a xone and don't look back


Posted by on Mar-16-2007 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
I hate the midrange EQ band on all the Nuos... the bass and treb barely cut anything and the midrange is just huge.


ugly imo




And an opinion is all that is...


Posted by Ministerio on Mar-16-2007 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by J:\Digital


And an opinion is all that is...



Wow, strong hostility.


Posted by agentdansmith on Mar-16-2007 09:06:

quote:
Originally posted by cbrendan
+ 1 for the xone62. Had one, loved it and then sold it for a djm800.

the eqs on the djm 800 dont come close to the eqs on the xone, and all in all the xone just felt nicer. The filters where AMAZING.

Get a xone and don't look back


Thanks for the reply, could you tell me why the filters were amazing? And am I right in thinking that the xone62 only has one effect (VCF filter)? Whereas the Nuo5 has loads.

To be honest, I'm after a mixer that doesn't really need to have an external efx unit added.


Posted by cbrendan on Mar-16-2007 09:14:

The xone has two filters. One for each side of the crossfader, and you assign channels to x or y. The filters arn't independant though. You can't run hpf on one and lpf on the other.

Not knowing anything aboutt he nuo 5 id say it would be similar to the djm 800 and have a stack of digital effects, but no analouge filter.


Posted by agentdansmith on Mar-16-2007 09:27:

quote:
Originally posted by cbrendan
The xone has two filters. One for each side of the crossfader, and you assign channels to x or y. The filters arn't independant though. You can't run hpf on one and lpf on the other.

Not knowing anything aboutt he nuo 5 id say it would be similar to the djm 800 and have a stack of digital effects, but no analouge filter.


Thnaks for the quick reply and excuse my ignorance, but what's an analogue filter? I presume that it is different to the filter effect you get on a DJM600 or DXM06?

I'd really like to know what its like cause from the reviews, this VCF filter on the Xone62 sounds amazing but I am slightly concerned that I may get bored of only having the one effect to play with.


Posted by Tony Morello on Mar-16-2007 13:38:

in your case i'd take a look at the nuo 5

the AH62 is a nice mixer but i didn't like the cueing on it

i cue mainly in the headphones too and it just didn't work well for me, had to switch to using the monitors, the mixer wasn't set right to allow clean monitoring in the headphones


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