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After this year at the WMC, I've decided that I want to try to get into DJing.

To start off and practice, what gear do you guys recommend I get?

2 x Decks
1 x Mixer
1 x Headphones
1 x Amp
2 x Speakers

Well do you want to play vinyl or CD?
Have you ever tried mixing mp3's on your comp with Traktor or something similar?
Have you read anything to even know what you need to get?

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Re: New DJ

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Originally posted by woomba To start off and practice, what gear do you guys recommend I get?

Are you taking the piss? Don't be so fucking lazy and do a search. You don't think you're the first person to ever ask this question on a forum like this do you?

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Are you taking the piss? Don't be so fucking lazy and do a search. You don't think you're the first person to ever ask this question on a forum like this do you?

...and welcome to the forum

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Originally posted by agentdansmith ...and welcome to the forum

Yeah - that too.

2x CDJ200
1x DJM400

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Originally posted by agentdansmith 2 x Decks 1 x Mixer 1 x Headphones 1 x Amp 2 x Speakers

Not quite.

He needs some music too

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Are you taking the piss? Don't be so fucking lazy and do a search. You don't think you're the first person to ever ask this question on a forum like this do you?

I was in the same boat a few months ago. If you're going the CD route, I recommend Pioneer CDJ200 decks and Numark DXM06 mixer. If you have a bigger budget, then you have more options. I personally bought Denon DNS1000 decks, instead of CDJ200. However, I did it only because I got a deal on them. Otherwise CDJ200 are the way to go.

Get records/CDs first. Build up a massive collection of tunes that you can't wait to share with a mass of people. Fall in love with the music. Know who made it. Learn the background of your tunes. Become obsessive about it. Get the "urge" to share these tunes with others, and if that urge still exists after hearing the tracks in your collection for the 1000th time and you're about to burst because you NEED to play those records for somebody NOW, and that urge has become stronger than the need to eat or sleep, then post here.

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Originally posted by Dojomaster26 Get records/CDs first. Build up a massive collection of tunes that you can't wait to share with a mass of people. Fall in love with the music. Know who made it. Learn the background of your tunes. Become obsessive about it. Get the "urge" to share these tunes with others, and if that urge still exists after hearing the tracks in your collection for the 1000th time and you're about to burst because you NEED to play those records for somebody NOW, and that urge has become stronger than the need to eat or sleep, then post here.

bravo!

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Originally posted by Dojomaster26 Get records/CDs first. Build up a massive collection of tunes that you can't wait to share with a mass of people. Fall in love with the music. Know who made it. Learn the background of your tunes. Become obsessive about it. Get the "urge" to share these tunes with others, and if that urge still exists after hearing the tracks in your collection for the 1000th time and you're about to burst because you NEED to play those records for somebody NOW, and that urge has become stronger than the need to eat or sleep, then post here.

you really need to love music

no joke

it pretty much has to consume your life

i can honestly say music is my life

it's a big commitment that doesn't pay off immediately, you really have to commit time and money, but in the end i'd say it's worth it

i'm about 7 years in at this point, unfathomable hours behind the decks, djing is second nature now

I think i'll go the CDj route. As for the msuic, i've been amassing EDM music since 1997 and i think I'm up to 700 GBs of music and 500 CD's, so I know the music, I just got the urge to take it a step further

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Originally posted by woomba I think i'll go the CDj route. As for the msuic, i've been amassing EDM music since 1997 and i think I'm up to 700 GBs of music and 500 CD's, so I know the music, I just got the urge to take it a step further

we're talking about legal music here. djs don't use illegal music. anyone can just go and dl 700gb of music. if you want to be a real dj, you'll go and buy your music.

Itunes, and ripped CD's from friends, which is completely under the Fair Use act, so everything I own is legal

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Originally posted by woomba Itunes, and ripped CD's from friends, which is completely under the Fair Use act, so everything I own is legal

your friends must have a shitload of cds or then you've spent a shitload of money on itunes. anyway remember that if you dj on some party or bar etc. it's not legal to play stuff burned from your mates. it might be legal to play in your bedroom, but that doesn't make it legal outside your bedroom.
anyway i just feel djs at least should buy their music. i really have no respect for a dj who doesn't pay for his music. that's all.

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Originally posted by skip it might be legal to play in your bedroom, but that doesn't make it legal outside your bedroom.

It's not even legal to do that - in the States the law states that you can make copies for personal use, i.e. for the use of the purchaser... not for you. In the UK we're not even allowed to do that.

And (in the UK at least) the illegal act in playing an unlawfully obtained copy of a track is simply owning it (but I do totally agree that morally it's wrong) - there's nothing that specifically states that it's illegal to play an illegal copy in a club, but it's implied by laws against making/owning illegal copies. Putting yourself in a public place with a load of illegal music just makes you more likely to get caught.

I'll download a from Limewire that everyones talking about, if i like it, i'll buy the 320kbps version from Juno, if not i'll delete it. Ive got about 13,000 tracks all legally owned. Between myself and my dad, the amount of music we have is unbelievable.

What I'm doing might not be "legal". But i've got morals on the issue.

IDK why so many people give a crap about legality issues. The OP is a beginner. Who cares WTF he plays in his bedroom? I agree that you should buy tracks that you will be using at a gig, but that's only because of the quality issues. And, no offense, skip, but if you're judging a DJ based on legality of his tracks - you're a moron. You go out to see a DJ perform in order to appreciate his skills and style. I could care less where people get their tunes. It's not even an issue with money - it's just that producers get about 10% of the revenue from selling their tracks, which is nothing and I don't like that idea.

Bottom line:

A. Use whatever you want at home
B. Buy the tunes for live gigs

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Originally posted by Andryuha IDK why so many people give a crap about legality issues. The OP is a beginner. Who cares WTF he plays in his bedroom? I agree that you should buy tracks that you will be using at a gig, but that's only because of the quality issues. And, no offense, skip, but if you're judging a DJ based on legality of his tracks - you're a moron. You go out to see a DJ perform in order to appreciate his skills and style. I could care less where people get their tunes. It's not even an issue with money - it's just that producers get about 10% of the revenue from selling their tracks, which is nothing and I don't like that idea. Bottom line: A. Use whatever you want at home B. Buy the tunes for live gigs

well no offense to you either, but you're a moron, if you only buy tracks for their quality. ever heard about supporting the scene? if every dj out there would download their tunes off p2p we wouldn't have anything to play after a while. maybe it's morons like you who are to blame for the current sad state of edm. i have no respect for djs who don't buy their tunes, because i really don't see any justification for it.
you can try to justify being a cheap ass any way you want, but it still won't make it any more right.

One major factor you need to understand is that if you DO take this up, you have to be dedicated, no doubt about it. You'll get discouraged very frequently when you start and things don't always go your way, that's where practice really comes into play. Practice, practice, practice and eventually you'll get the hang of the essential basics like beatmatching and EQ's and arrangement.

As for gear, really do some research before buying anything in order to not get discouraged with what you spent money for. Money is money no matter how big or small it is, even if you bought Gemini's DJ starter kit for 300$ it's still money and you need to spend it wisely. You get what you pay for in this hobby/profession.

That's why it's best to research all your options carefully and save money for good gear to get you started and don't try to impress people with it by going all out and buying the best gear when you really have no clue of how to even beatmatch.

My suggestion is save up for some CDJ-200's by Pioneer and a decent Numark/Vestax mixer. You're going to be DJ'ing at home for months-years before you get your first gig so really, you don't need a mixer that costs well over 1,000$.

There are a load of threads on this forum about beginner gear, use the search, it will guide you like the wind guides a boats sails.

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Originally posted by skip well no offense to you either, but you're a moron, if you only buy tracks for their quality. ever heard about supporting the scene? if every dj out there would download their tunes off p2p we wouldn't have anything to play after a while. maybe it's morons like you who are to blame for the current sad state of edm. i have no respect for djs who don't buy their tunes, because i really don't see any justification for it. you can try to justify being a cheap ass any way you want, but it still won't make it any more right.

I hardly see how buying tracks for their quality is moronic. If you have same, identical tracks, available to you. One costs a fee and the other one is free. Any logical person would choose a free one. It may bot be 100% ethical, but it's a smart thing to do from a consumer stand point. I support the scene by attending live shows. I, in part provide money for the DJs, which they use to buy their tunes. And please elaborate on the current state of EDM. How is it different from say, 5 years ago? Again, I show my support by attending live shows and introducing new people to the scene.
Don't call me a cheap ass. you don't know me. Try studying and working a shitty job. Then see how much dough you have to pay for your beloved choons.

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Originally posted by Andryuha I hardly see how buying tracks for their quality is moronic. If you have same, identical tracks, available to you. One costs a fee and the other one is free. Any logical person would choose a free one. It may bot be 100% ethical, but it's a smart thing to do from a consumer stand point. I support the scene by attending live shows. I, in part provide money for the DJs, which they use to buy their tunes. And please elaborate on the current state of EDM. How is it different from say, 5 years ago? Again, I show my support by attending live shows and introducing new people to the scene. Don't call me a cheap ass. you don't know me. Try studying and working a shitty job. Then see how much dough you have to pay for your beloved choons.

well if you support the scene by going to see djs and all the djs just dl their tracks off p2p then who's supporting the producers? who will produce new tracks, when there's no money at all in it? so taking the easy way out isn't always the best way of doing things. but that's what you're doing, taking the easy way out as you are a cheap ass.
i am studying and not working a shitty job, so i have probably less money than you do. i still buy tunes as much as i can afford.
and the state of edm currently is very fucking sad IMO. it's all gone too commercial. pop culture is taking over. compare edm from a bit over ten years ago to the shit we get today and you should notice a difference.

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