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Virginia Tech University Shooting Massacre - 31 dead
Just saw this downstairs at the tv lounge here at school. Keep them in your prayers TA's.
Source: Yahoo! News.
By SUE LINDSEY, Associated Press Writer
8 minutes ago
BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, in a classroom across campus Monday, killing at least 30 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history, government officials told The Associated Press. The gunman was killed, bringing the death toll to 31.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."
It was not immediately clear whether the gunman was shot by police or took his own life. His name was not released, investigators offered no motive for the attack. It was not known if the gunman was a student.
The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus, with witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive.
The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing at least two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about a half-mile away, authorities said.
Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.
After the first shots were fired, students were warned to stay indoors and away from the windows. But some students said they thought the precautions had been lifted by the time the second burst of gunfire was heard, and some bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time, two hours after the bloodshed began.
"What happened today this was ridiculous. And I don't know what happened or what was going through this guy's mind," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "But I'm pretty outraged and I'll say on the record I'm pretty outraged that someone died in a shooting in a dorm at 7 o'clock in the morning and the first e-mail about it � no mention of locking down campus, no mention of canceling classes � they just mention that they're investigating a shooting two hours later at 9:22."
He added: "That's pretty ridiculous and meanwhile, while they're sending out that e-mail, 22 more people got killed."
FBI spokesman Richard Kolko in Washington said there was no evidence to suggest it was a terrorist attack, "but all avenues will be explored."
Up until Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard drove his pickup into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself.
Yahoo! News Link - Original Report
32 Confirmed now.... 
Jesus christ...definitely not something I'd like to hear after a weekend like the one I had.
God Bless those in VTU.
so shitty. It's mind boggling to think what could possibly bring someone to do this. I say armed security at every school from here on out, with judge, jury, executioner status.. this can't keep happening
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| Originally posted by serch54 so shitty. It's mind boggling to think what could possibly bring someone to do this. I say armed security at every school from here on out, with judge, jury, executioner status.. this can't keep happening |
horrible, horrible news 
I think the thing that really hits home is that it was so indiscriminant in nature.
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| Originally posted by serch54 so shitty. It's mind boggling to think what could possibly bring someone to do this. I say armed security at every school from here on out, with judge, jury, executioner status.. this can't keep happening |
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| Originally posted by Zeonfiend Better idea: how about concealed carry licenses for students? |
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| Better idea: how about concealed carry licenses for students? |
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| Originally posted by Zeonfiend Better idea: how about concealed carry licenses for students? |
It breaks my heart, but this is yet another reason why every adult should be armed.
I think this just reaffirmed my decision to go get a CHL....
Goddamned .......I was in shock when i first heard this.
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| Originally posted by Progress Ent. I think this just reaffirmed my decision to go get a CHL.... |
Its not enough, but my sincere prayers and condolensces go to the families and friends of all those who were killed and wounded. Unfortunately some things in life we'll just never understand. It really angers me to no end that when certain individuals have a 'downfall' in life that they take undeserving people down with them.
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| Originally posted by Zeonfiend Better idea: how about concealed carry licenses for students? |
I don't plan to get a CHL. Having a gun is the temptation to use it. And there are very, very few situations in which I'd actually want to use one.
also, I don't mean anything against having rifles for hunting or target shooting, or a pistol for target shooting. But a CHL has one purpose: giving you the capability to kill people more easily. Nothing else.
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| Originally posted by progressiveMOJO I don't plan to get a CHL. Having a gun is the temptation to use it. |
I don't consider myself defenseless even without a gun or weapon. I also consider myself to be level-headed, and against violence in general if it can be avoided, and having a lot to lose, and well aware of the consequences. Sure I've been lividly pissed off at a variety of people for a variety of reasons, including traffic and idiots almost getting me killed by doing stupid things with their cars, and to date I've never felt an actual desire to actually shoot them.
But, well, shitty things happen. I'd rather not be mugged and all of a sudden the person who only had a knife in my back now has a knife and a gun. Something unforseeable could alter my mental state, which is a possibility for anyone regardless of how confident they are in their own sanity and levelheadedness. Most people who are shot during robberies are shot by their own guns because the robber didn't have one of his own but took theirs. For the forseeable need that I have for deadly force, there is too much that can go wrong for me to justify the trouble and responsibility of owning a handgun.
if I lived somewhere terrible it might be different, I just see more trouble than need.
I'd like to drive to school in an M1, and just start taking out cars.
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| But, well, shitty things happen. I'd rather not be mugged and all of a sudden the person who only had a knife in my back now has a knife and a gun. |
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| Originally posted by Matthias Its not enough, but my sincere prayers and condolensces go to the families and friends of all those who were killed and wounded. Unfortunately some things in life we'll just never understand. It really angers me to no end that when certain individuals have a 'downfall' in life that they take undeserving people down with them. +1 That's why I have my CHL. Not a student, but I wouldn't put it past a disgruntled employee pulling the same kinda shit after getting fired. |
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| Originally posted by architect1803 I'd like to drive to school in an M1, and just start taking out cars. |
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| Originally posted by progressiveMOJO I don't plan to get a CHL. Having a gun is the temptation to use it. And there are very, very few situations in which I'd actually want to use one. also, I don't mean anything against having rifles for hunting or target shooting, or a pistol for target shooting. But a CHL has one purpose: giving you the capability to kill people more easily. Nothing else. |
I just don't see people with a CHL using their weapon for anything other than defense. Why do then when you can get a stolen gun for $75 and destroy it immediately after you commit your crime.
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| 'The people that have the ability to defend others against tyranny and the threat of evil have the responsibility to defend' - John Adams |
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