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Recording a mix

Hey all, need some advice here on how to go about recording a mix from an external mixer. I recently purchased a pair of cdjs and a mixer. Prior to this I was working with Mixvibes on which a mix can be recorded on the fly while playing simply by clicking the record button. What I wanted to know is how do you connect the mixer to a computer and record the mix on the comp. The mixer has a tape output which I am connecting out of and feeding the cable into the "Line In" of the external soundcard. After this I am clueless as to how to direct the computer to record the incoming signal. In short, what I want to know is how do I record a mix when using the external mixer. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

You need a program that will enable you to record through the Line Input of your extrenal soundcard.

Adobe Edition, Sony Soundforge, Steinberg Wavelab, etc can all get this done. If you don't havean audio editing software, you can download Audacity for free.

K so in Audacity, how do you specify to record from the mixer? Pardon my amateur questions since I have only begun experimenting.

upper right corner of audacity select LINE-IN and your all set!

Although above post gave the solution, it doesn't hurt to explore around a program... dig through the menus, look at various options and dialogs available to you.

A lot of the stuff I can do today is because I poked around to see what a certain piece of software could do, and to figure things out for myself.

Of course, it's completely acceptable to ask for help. =) I just think that one should make an attempt to figure things out, rather than immediately asking for help. It's more of a mentality thing.

(Please note that I'm not implying that you didn't try to figure it out; the above was just a general observation.)

If you have NERO BURNING ROM installed on your machine, then you've already got a pretty sweet audio editor installed.

If you don't want to shell out for something like sound forge, this is perfect. It's not something I'd want to use as my main sample editor, but it does the trick.

Tim

thanks alot guys.

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Originally posted by Arnozilla upper right corner of audacity select LINE-IN and your all set!

Did I download the wrong version? I'm trying to get this set up to record a mix from my cdj's - djm 600 connected to my echo indigo soundcard on my laptop. Having trouble figuring out how to configure this to work. I don't see a LINE-IN button anywhere at all. Thanks

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Originally posted by BLS If you have NERO BURNING ROM installed on your machine, then you've already got a pretty sweet audio editor installed. If you don't want to shell out for something like sound forge, this is perfect. It's not something I'd want to use as my main sample editor, but it does the trick. Tim

Whats that like? I'm using Cool edit Pro 2.1 atm... whats the pro's and cons?

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Whats that like? I'm using Cool edit Pro 2.1 atm... whats the pro's and cons?

I guess the pro is that you can download it for free on the audacity website. How much was cool edit pro? If I can't get this audacity configured I might have to look elsewhere. I can't see any way to set up audacity with the echo indigo dj soundcard that I have with my laptop. I don't see a LINE IN option anywhere.

I used Audacity!

And it SUCKS! There is crackling noise every 10 seconds, and everytime i touch any effect. Anyone know what could be the problem?

your master could be too high on teh output , or your soundcard input levels are too high also make sure youre connecting thru Line-In not microphone, the microphone plug is not made for the volume and/or frequencies you get from playing music it all becomes distorted out the ass.. do other recording programs cause cracking too?

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Originally posted by stan229 your master could be too high on teh output , or your soundcard input levels are too high also make sure youre connecting thru Line-In not microphone, the microphone plug is not made for the volume and/or frequencies you get from playing music it all becomes distorted out the ass.. do other recording programs cause cracking too?

i figured it was something like that...i played around with some volume controls, but ill look into it a bit more...oh and yes i am using line-in


I just tried using one more..

PolderbitS....does not cause any crackling...however this doesnt let me hear the sound coming out of the mixer.

let me explain..

so far i just use traktor (got my cdj-200 waiting for them to arrive).....so what happens is that as soon as i turn on the application i can't hear the output anymore from my mixer...i push record...and it does actually record it, i can hear it when i play it back...but i can't hear it live... its soo wierd...


I am gonna try a few more different programs..

oh
i use traktor too and audacity
what i have is my two channels no my soundcard going into my chan1,chan2
my master(1) going out to my booth speaker
my master(2) goes to my line in on soundcard

i record thru audacity perfeclty fine, my master knob is at about 40% if that helps with anyhting while gains are at around 60% on both chans

i dont have my laptop play back my sound because i have my speakers for that, as ive understood its genenrally not recommended to playbakc as its recorded why i cnat think of exactly right now just came to my head

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Originally posted by stan229 oh i use traktor too and audacity what i have is my two channels no my soundcard going into my chan1,chan2 my master(1) going out to my booth speaker my master(2) goes to my line in on soundcard i record thru audacity perfeclty fine, my master knob is at about 40% if that helps with anyhting while gains are at around 60% on both chans i dont have my laptop play back my sound because i have my speakers for that, as ive understood its genenrally not recommended to playbakc as its recorded why i cnat think of exactly right now just came to my head

OK i have the exact same setup...

i dont playback on my computer...i mean the sound going out of my master to the booth...i can't hear it...thats with that other program..

I will try to lower my master to about 40% next time and see if it works...

EDIT: Thanks btw for the replys

thats odd. what mixer do you have?

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Originally posted by stan229 thats odd. what mixer do you have?

numark DXM06

when i use that PolderbitS thats what happens. I just checked again. What its doing is that it doesn't even let the output come from the computer into the mixer, and it just records the stream from the computer without going through the mixer. Ah I've had it with that program though...

I tried again with putting my master to about 40% and it worked. Thanks

How about Cool Edit Pro 2. Would anyone be able to post directions on how to configure a mixer (DJM 600) with an external soundcard (echo indigo dj)?? There are so many options in the program and I can't find anywhere where I'm able to configure the program with my laptop in order to record mixes.

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This is freaken frustrating. This is my setup so far:

I have an audio cable connected (red and white ends) into the back of my DJM 600 under the "Record Out". On the opposite end I have the male end (kind that you plug into an ipod or portable cd player) connected into my echo indigo DJ soundcard, which is plugged into the side of my Gateway laptop.
Cool Edit Pro or Audacity is not recognizing any sound when I press the record button. Does anyone know a setting that I'd have to change in order to get this set up properly? I can't find anything anywhere

Edit (2)**
I found my problem- and that is that my expensive echo indigo DJ soundcard doesn't have any "Line In" capabilities. And to top it off, neither does my internal laptop soundcard. Does anyone have any recommendations, then, on a good quality soundcard for my laptop that has Line In capabilities so that I am able to record my mixes?

Alright, trying to figure this out before my show in a few weeks, so I figured I would bump this thread.

I understand the Audacity, and switching it to line/analog, but here's another n00bish question, what type of cable do I need to go from my mixer to my computer?

Rca to 1/8"




your local shitshack should have these or you can make one yourself

Also, remember that it is very important to set your volume control each time before recording. If you don't, you may risk damaging your sound card.

To do this, double click on the speaker icon on the right side of your task bar, select options; select properties and adjust volume for 'recording'.

i seriously wonder about some people sometimes...

i'm not taking shots at anyone, just making some general comments

i know there are people that aren't that well versed in the technical side of things but really now

ex: what kind of cable do i use to connect my mixer to my computer?

the kind that fits in the record or tape out on the back of your mixer to the line in on your computer, it's elementary dear watson

same with having recording problems... if you can't figure out how to select the line in to record, maybe djing isn't for you

take some time to go through your programs, learn how they work instead of immediately running to TA and asking asinine questions that make the veterans shake their heads (believe me, we do)

all i'm saying is, take some time to try and figure things out for yourself, you'll more than likely wind up learning more in the end

i didn't have TA to come running to when i was learning, i also had a very good understanding of audio, software and hardware and how they work though, but that also came through doing it myself

when you've exhausted all possibilities (basic problem solving, eliminate possible problems until you find the problem) then of course you can run to TA and ask questions

as for the noise when recording, it's called digital clipping
turn your soundcard input down and make sure your levels aren't peaking when recording, i like to peak at about -3dB

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Originally posted by Tony Morello

Honestly dude, if you don't wanna help then just skip the thread. It may be old news to you, but I needed this help back in the day. It's part of what the forum is about.

The cable Stan posted is perfect. On my Pio mixer the 2 RCA jacks are connected to the mixers booth/session out jacks. The audio jack simply plugs into the line in on the sound card.

Like everyone says you will need to play around with the recording level on your PC soundcard & also the booth/session out control on the mixer to get a good balance so as to avoid clipping whilst still getting a decent recording volume. Once you've got it set up you'll never have to do it again on your home system If anyone's worried about fcuking up, you cant. Honestly guys it really is a piece of piss - even I managed not to completely bollock it up & thats saying something

i totally want to help, i'm just trying to get people to think for themselves

it's seems like some don't even bother to try, they just look at it and go, i don't know what to do, i'll ask TA

take charge of your own development as a dj

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