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Posted by ResonantDrag on May-15-2007 20:19:

Jerry Falwell is finally in a gay/muslim/feminist free place

his heaven..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6659457.stm

quote:
US evangelist Jerry Falwell dies

Leading US conservative evangelist Rev Jerry Falwell has died in hospital in Virginia after being found unconscious in his office, his assistants said.

Doctors gave Rev Falwell emergency treatment at Lynchburg General Hospital but could not revive him.

Rev Falwell, 73, survived two serious health scares in 2005 but had a history of heart problems.

He became a figurehead of the religious right in the 1980s, founded the Moral Majority and later Liberty University.

Rev Falwell was regarded as the father of the political evangelical movement.

As one of the first television preachers, he reached millions on his programme The Old Time Gospel Hour.

Ron Godwin, executive vice president for Liberty University, said Rev Falwell was found unresponsive in his office at about 1045 local time (1535 GMT) after missing an appointment.

Mr Godwin said: "Dr Falwell is a huge, huge leader here in this area and in the nation at large."

Controversial

Rev Al Sharpton said he was deeply saddened and was praying for the Falwell family. He said although he often disagreed with the reverend, they had a cordial relationship.

The BBC's Vanessa Heaney in Washington says Rev Falwell was a controversial figure who offended many.

But his alliance with Republicans in the 1980s was a key help in the elections of Ronald Reagan as president and many political leaders have since continued to seek his support.

Among them is Senator John McCain - a Republican contender for US president - who described him as "a man of distinguished accomplishment who devoted his life to serving his faith and country".

Rev Falwell was a strong opponent of abortion, homosexuality and many other issues that conflicted with his fundamentalist Christian beliefs.

His statements on feminism and race issues often outraged liberals.

In 2002, he sparked anger across the Muslim world by calling the Prophet Muhammad a "terrorist". He later apologised.

Shortly after the 11 September 2001 attacks, he said that gays, atheists, civil-rights activists and legal abortions in the US had angered God and "helped this happen".

In 1999, he denounced the BBC TV children's show The Teletubbies, because he believed one character, Tinky Winky, was homosexual.


Tinky Winky can now rest easy. but the damage is still done.


Posted by Capitalizt on May-15-2007 20:55:


Posted by Jake Benson on May-15-2007 21:21:

I was so excited to wake up and read this as the headline in the NYTimes.

Good day today eh?


Posted by ResonantDrag on May-15-2007 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
I was so excited to wake up and read this as the headline in the NYTimes.

Good day today eh?


i figure with all the people that he's condemned to hell, this is worth celebrating.

but damn, the man could get some work done.. without his political/evangelical initiatives, bush's approval rating would most likely be below 10% (provided he was in office to begin with).


Posted by DJ Shibby on May-16-2007 00:41:

Yeah, I cracked open a bottle of champaigne for this one...

The problem still remains though: his memetic legacy, and the legacy that created him like some sort of out-of-control bacteria culture, lingers on to plague us all.


Posted by Yohan on May-16-2007 01:01:

Well, with this shitpump finally shutting his yap, maybe the fundies will shut up a bit.

I doubt it though. There are still enough of them out there.

Fucking oxygen thieves


Posted by limin_li on May-16-2007 04:51:

Is this is a punishment for WBC??? Hehe


Posted by LazFX on May-16-2007 05:10:

RIP :

I just feel so sad for the man, just like all of those muslims that kill them selves for a god...... getting there and realizing that all is silent..........








Posted by Lilith on May-16-2007 13:12:

...and finally, christians.



Posted by ResonantDrag on May-16-2007 17:50:

one hell of a eulogy..


Posted by Clovis on May-16-2007 21:27:

One less asshole in America.


Posted by nrjizer on May-16-2007 21:36:

And Fred Phelps is going to petition his funeral.

No, I'm not kidding.


Posted by LazFX on May-16-2007 23:00:

Tinky Winky says bye-bye to Jerry Falwell

Tinky Winky says bye-bye to Jerry Falwell

May 16, 2007 | Eight years ago the Rev. Jerry Falwell warned parents that BBC children's television star Tinky Winky was a hidden symbol of homosexuality. Falwell died Tuesday at 73, and the world wanted to talk to Tinky Winky.

"They're calling again, again, again," he said by phone from his home in Islington, in London. A spokesman said the former "Teletubbies" costar got more than 100 calls from reporters in the hour following news of Falwell's death.

"Oh dear, it's easy to say the wrong thing here," he said. "Tinky Winky sad whenever someone dies, but ..." He left it hanging there.

In a 1999 article in his National Liberty Journal headlined "Tinky Winky Comes Out of the Closet," Falwell pointed out that Winky could be taken as representing gays.

"He is purple -- the gay pride color, and his antenna is shaped like a triangle -- the gay pride symbol," Falwell wrote. "The character, whose voice is that of a boy, has been found carrying a red purse in many episodes and has become a favorite character among gay groups worldwide."

In the resulting media firestorm, gay-rights activists called for Winky to come out while Christian groups demanded the BBC fire him so that he couldn't, in Falwell's words, "role-model the gay lifestyle."

"It was traumatizing, really," says Winky, who now owns a holistic healing center and makes occasional appearances on British TV. "I'm a very private Teletubby. I just wanted to get away, go over the hills and far away. But when you're 7 feet tall and purple with an antenna on your head and a TV screen in your belly, where are you going to go?"

Winky says he tried to contact Falwell after the article came out, but the evangelist wouldn't take his calls.

"I wanted to know why he didn't talk to me first," Winky says. "It's not like I'm hard to reach. Have the pinwheel call me. But really I just wanted to clap him on the head with Tinky Winky bag."

The star never has clarified his sexual orientation, insisting on his privacy and denying rumors over the years that he had affairs with two of his costars on the 1997-2001 show, the male Dipsy and the female Po.

"We love each other very much," he says. "Big hug. But it's not like that. It was a kids show, know what I mean? And this Falwell guy and his followers wanted to turn us into something else. We weren't modeling a gay lifestyle and we weren't trying to corrupt anyone's kids. We were just kids ourselves, really. Give us a little Tubby toast or custard and a film of some kids washing clothes or something, that's all we needed. We didn't give a shit about modeling a lifestyle."

Tinky Winky sounds angry. The wounds are still raw.

"I'm just practicing my craft, working for the kids, and all at once the tabloids are everywhere on me," he says. "I couldn't even go out. Was it a gay club? Was I talking to a woman? It was bollocks."

Winky chuckles. "I must say, though," he says, "without getting into too many details, we had a girl in the group who ran around this kids show yelling, 'Cooter! Cooter!' And I'm the gay one? Do me a favor."

Through a spokeswoman, Po declined to comment for this article.

Winky says the Teletubbies stay in touch, and he remains friends with both Dipsy, who owns a nightclub in West London where Winky is often seen, and Po. Winky says he and Laa-Laa never really got along during the show's run, but, "We're fine now. We've come to appreciate each other."

Asked about Falwell's death, Winky turns serious and chooses his words carefully.

"I'm not going to pretend I'm sadder than I am," he says. "There were late nights during the dark times when I wished to hear news like this. I'd be lying if I denied that. I don't feel that way anymore. I like to think I've grown over the years, gotten past all that pain.

"But at the end of the day, I'm not terribly sad, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Jerry Falwell was a divisive person, a hateful person, and what I've tried to be all about, in the Teletubbies days and since then, has been love. I've got to keep it that way. I don't want anybody feeling good about it when it's my time for Tubby bye-bye."


>>SOURCE<<


Posted by Jake Benson on May-17-2007 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
And Fred Phelps is going to petition his funeral.

No, I'm not kidding.


Wait, is this the Phelps that petitions the dead soldiers' funerals? Does he think Falwell is going to hell too for not living forever?


Posted by Spirit5 on May-17-2007 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Wait, is this the Phelps that petitions the dead soldiers' funerals? Does he think Falwell is going to hell too for not living forever?


For being too soft on gay people

He wasn't hard enough..if you know what I mean

"your going straight to hell you fag loving sadomite!"

Yeah even if someone hates gay people, that's not enough....he wasn't picketing soldier's funerals or calling for the death of the USA! They want you to be extreme! Even those like Falwell, who are reactionaries, are quite mild compared to extreme reactionaries like Phelps and his group....they are a hate group using religion as a means of control/cover, not a religious group who happens to hate haha.


Posted by Krypton on May-17-2007 02:37:

Thank god for Jerry Falwell. This country would be in the grips of a France-like socialism.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on May-17-2007 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Wait, is this the Phelps that petitions the dead soldiers' funerals? Does he think Falwell is going to hell too for not living forever?

quote:
http://www.towleroad.com/2007/05/westboro_baptis.html

Westboro Baptist to Picket Jerry Falwell Funeral

The haters can't even stand each other.

Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church has announced plans to picket the funeral of Reverend Jerry Falwell. They say: "WBC will preach at the memorial service of the corpulent false prophet Jerry Falwell, who spent his entire life prophesying lies and false doctrines like 'God loves everyone'. There is little doubt that Falwell split Hell wide open the instant he died. The evidence is compelling, overwhelming, and irrefragable."

According to their lovely website, GodHatesAmerica.com,

"1. Falwell was a true Calvinistic Baptist when he was a young preacher in Springfield, Missouri, and sold his soul to Free-Willism (Arminianism) for lucre.

2. Falwell bitterly and viciously attacked WBC because of WBC's faithful Bible preaching -- thereby committing the unpardonable sin -- otherwise known as the sin against the Holy Ghost.

3. Falwell warmly praised Christ-rejecting Jews, pedophile-condoning Catholics, money-grubbing compromisers, practicing fags like Mel White, and backsliders like Billy Graham and Robert Schuler, etc. All for lucre -- making him guilty of their sins."

Yeah, so I stole the post from a gay guy on another board. I love when you go to a source site and see guys in bikini briefs.

The story is true, though. Go to http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ the site of the Westboro Baptist Church. Falwell apparently called Fred a crazy nut.

Why do you think Fox puts these people on panels? It's because it completely skews the "central" position by distorting it far to the crazy right.


Posted by spiflicated on May-17-2007 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Thank god for Jerry Falwell. This country would be in the grips of a France-like socialism.


Um... are you kidding?


Posted by Krypton on May-17-2007 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by spiflicated
Um... are you kidding?


Um, no...

Falwell is the man who mobilized the religious right into a powerful political force in Washington. Without him, Reagan might not have been president; the republican majority was restored in the Senate in the early 80's, etc. This is after the debacle of Jimmy Carter. Now, for those who are lefties, as this thread shows, there is no love for the man, but as for my conservative self, I thank him for his contribution to the conservative movement.

If there is a heaven as the bible describes it, Falwell is in it. RIP


Posted by Lilith on May-17-2007 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Thank god for Jerry Falwell. This country would be in the grips of a France-like socialism.

True, it's in the grips conservative fascism is so much dearer to some people's hearts (or lack there of) and the only liberal dosing is a rampaging paranoia that the *insert public enemy of the month* (muslims, jews, blacks and gays) are out to destroy you all.

It won't be some namby pamby gay guy, the dykes, the muslims, man with a tan or anyone else that wrecks your country, it'll be some uptight, good old fashioned, church going white boy that sends it down the crapper. There's a proven track record of them doing fairly well at it so far.


Posted by Spirit5 on May-17-2007 03:27:

Uh actually for social conservatives he is fine, but for traditional or fiscal conservatives, I think he was their downfall. Sure they can argue that Reagan was a pretty fiscal conservative, but he still pandered to the religious right and won their votes, obviously with the support of Falwell. But there are traditional conservatives like John Dean who worked for the Nixon administration and wrote "Conservatives Without Conscience" where he talks about both the neo-conservatives and the social/religious conservatives taking over (hijacking) the Republican party and ultimately their downfall and self-destruction, which is continuing to happen. Conservatives prior to Reagan, were less panderers to the religious right and more for the seperation of church and state than these guys are (who basically want to dismantle it, weaken the seperation).


Posted by Lilith on May-17-2007 03:40:

It's not so much the religious conservatives or even economically you've got to worry about, it's simply the case that the US has run out of 'goodwill' with the international community who have been fed up with it's actions since the decade after WW2. It'll essentially end up marginalised with people who just have their own short term agenda's of getting into office every 4 years being in the administration and the rest of the world that's just basically going to cast their own vote of 'no confidence' at the US's behaviour.
Doesn't really matter if it's democrat or republican, they're all fairly much the same brat pack at heart, same social demographic, same schools, they just pick their party on the basis that daddy was in it and the social networking is already in place for political ascension.


Posted by Jake Benson on May-17-2007 10:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Falwell is the man who mobilized the religious right into a powerful political force in Washington.


Yay, religion in politics! Because it makes so much sense to use a fairy tale book to justify that two men having sex is wrong and should be punished.

quote:
Without him, Reagan might not have been president;


You mean the guy that completely ignored the AIDS crises until his last year in office because he disregarded it as a gay disease? Guess that's why god gave him Alzheimers...um, I mean bless his soul for being so noble.

quote:
the republican majority was restored in the Senate in the early 80's, etc. This is after the debacle of Jimmy Carter.


And Republicans in the 80s did what?

quote:
Now, for those who are lefties, as this thread shows, there is no love for the man, but as for my conservative self, I thank him for his contribution to the conservative movement.


I wouldn't call them lefties, but people who believe in equality for everyone.

quote:
If there is a heaven as the bible describes it, Falwell is in it. RIP


Nope, I'd have to agree with Phelps on this one. Falwell is definitely in hell.


Posted by DJ Shibby on May-17-2007 10:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Um, no...

Falwell is the man who mobilized the religious right into a powerful political force in Washington. Without him, Reagan might not have been president; the republican majority was restored in the Senate in the early 80's, etc. This is after the debacle of Jimmy Carter. Now, for those who are lefties, as this thread shows, there is no love for the man, but as for my conservative self, I thank him for his contribution to the conservative movement.

If there is a heaven as the bible describes it, Falwell is in it. RIP


LOL

Wow, human beings are so ridiculous... it's really lovely, thanks for being you.


Posted by Krypton on May-17-2007 14:58:

Hey, agree to disagree We'll leave it at that.

Thanks for being you? Wtf are you talking about? Sorry I don't agree wtih your views dude, deal with it.


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