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This is fucked up. They are blocking a roadway in hopes of accomplishing what?? And to top it all of they are stating openly they have guns to "protect themselves". This is absolutely ridiculous. I can't stand stupid fucking protesters it doesnt solve anything it just make most of the population hate your cause especially if you are disrupting other people's lives.

A little temporary blockade isn't much harm... They had the courtesy of announcing their plans much in advance, so everyone was aware this will happen. Like any other protest, they don't do much at all, I agree, but it does get attention and thought.

The leader of the blockade said that if they try to do anything that "they have firearms available". So why dont we call in the army to deal with these terrorists? Weve been pussy when it comes to caledonia and they have learned that lesson well. Until we put an end to this kind of terrorism it's only going to get worse.

I say call in the army and end this now.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 The leader of the blockade said that if they try to do anything that "they have firearms available". So why dont we call in the army to deal with these terrorists? Weve been pussy when it comes to caledonia and they have learned that lesson well. Until we put an end to this kind of terrorism it's only going to get worse. I say call in the army and end this now.

I agree, call in the army. This isn't a case where you can just say "O but it's a just cause." Because there is nothing that condones actions like this. The sad thing is that I bet they don't even know what they want to achieve from this. They want to draw the publics attention??? Well they are doing so, but they are making the public look at them in a negative light. Even if they do have a specific goal in mind that thye would like to accomplish, there are much more effective means of accomplishing it. We live in a civilized world where we maintain law and order and things can be changed by using the right channels. Honestly we are much past the stage of protesting, look at the marijuana march for instance. Every year they protest thinking they are going to make a difference and every year nothing happens and a lot of people laugh at some of the idiots.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 So why dont we call in the army to deal with these terrorists?

Colin Powell is on the case...i just emailed him.

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Originally posted by sixtysix I agree, call in the army. This isn't a case where you can just say "O but it's a just cause." Because there is nothing that condones actions like this. The sad thing is that I bet they don't even know what they want to achieve from this. They want to draw the publics attention??? Well they are doing so, but they are making the public look at them in a negative light. Even if they do have a specific goal in mind that thye would like to accomplish, there are much more effective means of accomplishing it. We live in a civilized world where we maintain law and order and things can be changed by using the right channels. Honestly we are much past the stage of protesting, look at the marijuana march for instance. Every year they protest thinking they are going to make a difference and every year nothing happens and a lot of people laugh at some of the idiots.

I wonder how many protesters actually vote?

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Originally posted by sixtysix Honestly we are much past the stage of protesting, look at the marijuana march for instance. Every year they protest thinking they are going to make a difference and every year nothing happens and a lot of people laugh at some of the idiots.

haha funny on so many levels...

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Originally posted by Jayx1 The leader of the blockade said that if they try to do anything that "they have firearms available". So why dont we call in the army to deal with these terrorists? Weve been pussy when it comes to caledonia and they have learned that lesson well. Until we put an end to this kind of terrorism it's only going to get worse. I say call in the army and end this now.

I would have to agree with you on this. Its that firearms comment that really alters this. If I were to walk in the middle of Yonge street, put up a blockade in 'protest', and claim access to firearms, I wonder how long it'd last out there...


In all honesty, I find it even more absurd that they announced their plans. What is this, some sort of weak political gesture in demonstration that it is merely a peaceful protest? Its the Canada-day weekend. You want bad publicity? Go to capitol hill, do it there. To disrupt a major supply line, and disrupt a fairly large number of individuals using that venue of transport probably won't garner any sort of sympathy.

I had plans to go camping in Kingston this weekend. Whatever sympathy I may have had for their causes, and as selfish as it is of me, its gone now.

hahaa, im just pissed cause i leave for ottawa in a few hours. and I hate traffic jams on long weekends. Even more so when they are avoidable

Fuck them...they lost their land...get over it. Shit happens. Move into the 21st century and get real jobs.

Hell, they already are exempt from taxes and get free education...better than the rest of us!

I see no real problem with peaceful protesting and there is a big difference between claiming access to firearms and actually being armed. If any of you have witnessed or read about previous aboriginal blockades you would know that most of the time it is the police who brutalize the Indians in their protest and not the other way around. So what if you are a bit late getting out of the city to go to your lakefront cottages, all of which are situated on land that was taken from these people. Use the time that you are sitting in traffic to thank your lucky stars that you have enough luxury in life to be able afford your car, cottage, gas (for your tank and not your nose) and rent, because even immigrants who come to Canada with nothing and end up working in McDonalds have a better shot at success in life than most of our native people.

The fact that its being allowed to happen is disgusting.

what a joke.

The only reason I'd get pissed off is if I don't get access to my $10 cartons of smokes.

i have a big problem with native protesters. they give the law abiding productive natives a bad name.i grew up beside a reserve so i know the problems they have, and its their own damn fault. generations of alcoholism, drug addiction and laziness have bred yet another generations of deviants, miscreants, and social system pariahs to free load off society. its been how many hundred years since we took your land? time to grow up, get a job, and build your own fucking house and stop waiting for the gov to build one for you. they dont build me houses, and i pay fucking taxes.


as for road blockades..... put bigger trucks and trains on the roads today and run the bastards over. Its time for these double standards to stop. if it were any other group in canada blocking off highways and rail lines, they would be arrested.

If anything shawn bryant and his band of fuckups are ruining what would have been a good day for native awareness by drawing attention away from peaceful walks and demonstrations. the OPP needs to grow some balls and put a stop to this now. everytime you let them get away with it, they think it will work. If i run into a blockade today on my way down to barrie from ottawa.... im going to run them over....

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Originally posted by Sera I see no real problem with peaceful protesting and there is a big difference between claiming access to firearms and actually being armed. If any of you have witnessed or read about previous aboriginal blockades you would know that most of the time it is the police who brutalize the Indians in their protest and not the other way around. So what if you are a bit late getting out of the city to go to your lakefront cottages, all of which are situated on land that was taken from these people. Use the time that you are sitting in traffic to thank your lucky stars that you have enough luxury in life to be able afford your car, cottage, gas (for your tank and not your nose) and rent, because even immigrants who come to Canada with nothing and end up working in McDonalds have a better shot at success in life than most of our native people.

the land was taken from their great great great great great ancestors...... if it wasnt for good graces of the canadian gov. they would have been wiped out...... how long can they milk this sob storry for while they use our firearms, drink our booze, watch our porn and spend our fucking money?


they have the reserves, its not our fault they let them go to shit.... just proves that the easiest way to hide money from a native is to put it under his work boots....

at the reserve back home, the gov built 20 new homes there about 6 years ago. within 2 years, half the homes were missing the wood decks and half the siding off the house becuase they were too damn lazy to cut down a fuckin tree for firewood in the winter..... and the trees were located no more than 50 feet from the house.

the more handouts the gov gives them the worse they are going to be. cut them off now and force them to make positive changes in their way of life. its only going to get worse.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp i have a big problem with native protesters. they give the law abiding productive natives a bad name.i grew up beside a reserve so i know the problems they have, and its their own damn fault. generations of alcoholism, drug addiction and laziness have bred yet another generations of deviants, miscreants, and social system pariahs to free load off society. its been how many hundred years since we took your land? time to grow up, get a job, and build your own fucking house and stop waiting for the gov to build one for you. they dont build me houses, and i pay fucking taxes. as for road blockades..... put bigger trucks and trains on the roads today and run the bastards over. Its time for these double standards to stop. if it were any other group in canada blocking off highways and rail lines, they would be arrested. If anything shawn bryant and his band of fuckups are ruining what would have been a good day for native awareness by drawing attention away from peaceful walks and demonstrations. the OPP needs to grow some balls and put a stop to this now. everytime you let them get away with it, they think it will work. If i run into a blockade today on my way down to barrie from ottawa.... im going to run them over....

Amen!

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp i have a big problem with native protesters. they give the law abiding productive natives a bad name.i grew up beside a reserve so i know the problems they have, and its their own damn fault. generations of alcoholism, drug addiction and laziness have bred yet another generations of deviants, miscreants, and social system pariahs to free load off society. its been how many hundred years since we took your land? time to grow up, get a job, and build your own fucking house and stop waiting for the gov to build one for you. they dont build me houses, and i pay fucking taxes. as for road blockades..... put bigger trucks and trains on the roads today and run the bastards over. Its time for these double standards to stop. if it were any other group in canada blocking off highways and rail lines, they would be arrested. If anything shawn bryant and his band of fuckups are ruining what would have been a good day for native awareness by drawing attention away from peaceful walks and demonstrations. the OPP needs to grow some balls and put a stop to this now. everytime you let them get away with it, they think it will work. If i run into a blockade today on my way down to barrie from ottawa.... im going to run them over....

Post of the day....well said.

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Originally posted by Sera because even immigrants who come to Canada with nothing and end up working in McDonalds have a better shot at success in life than most of our native people.

How do you figure?

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Originally posted by zokissima How do you figure?

its because the imigrants arent allergic to honest work...... see its hard to make it in life as a free loader, that is unless you have a status native card....

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp its because the imigrants arent allergic to honest work...... see its hard to make it in life as a free loader, that is unless you have a status native card....

So true. They are given so many advantages, and instead of taking these advantages, such as free post-secondary eduaction, they just throw it away and resort to drugs and alcohol.

Calling in the army would be the stupidest thing to do.
While the army does have a mandate to assist in civil disturbances when called upon by govt, but do not train for riots and stuff or have the proper equipment. That's police's area.

Call in the army only if you want to see a lot of dead corpses.

I'm all for peaceful demonstrations. Have your rallies outside govt buildings and whatnot. Heck, if 50 anti war demonstrators get space on newspapers and tv, the Natives have no problem getting air time.

This sort of blocking railroad and roadway tactics only pisses a lot of people off. Already Via rail has cancelled services today due to this, causing a lot of headaches for avg citizens who have done nothing wrong.

But govt lacking balls, because for some reason the natives get treated with kiddy gloves won't do anything. Well, not after Ipperwash.

There are specific codes in the law that deals with this sort of stuff. If the natives violate them, arrest the whole lot of them.

Honestly, if the natives get their way with land claims that happened back in their great great grandfather's days, do I get a claim on Mongolians that came to my village back in 13th century and burnt down my ancestor's house?

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp its because the imigrants arent allergic to honest work...... see its hard to make it in life as a free loader, that is unless you have a status native card....

Yeah, that's why I actually wanted the original posters' response, to (hear) their logic on this. They do have a few advantages here, and aren't lacking in any other opportunity that anyone else in this country has, so I didn't quite understand how they are more likely to fail in their lives.

Hey folks...

I believe almost everyone here with the exception of one is judging based on their stereotypes.

I myself have known the non-stereotypical Aboriginals, and I can say LOTS of them. I went to school with them, I played sports with them. I really got to know them. They have their succesful people and their not-so-successful expressed in this thread. There are a lot of their people who also disapprove of the Warriors you see on the front-line. It's not a perfect society they live in, but they try to balance their lives with tradition and modern society in some ways. Some get greedy some profoundly give back to the community.

I hope people are focused on the people disturbing the sh!t and not the whole people in general, as what I am reading. Imagine the same happenning to the people of your culture.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Hey folks... I believe almost everyone here with the exception of one is judging based on their stereotypes. I myself have known the non-stereotypical Aboriginals, and I can say LOTS of them. I went to school with them, I played sports with them. I really got to know them. They have their succesful people and their not-so-successful expressed in this thread. There are a lot of their people who also disapprove of the Warriors you see on the front-line. It's not a perfect society they live in, but they try to balance their lives with tradition and modern society in some ways. Some get greedy some profoundly give back to the community. I hope people are focused on the people disturbing the sh!t and not the whole people in general, as what I am reading. Imagine the same happenning to the people of your culture.

My opinions wouldn't have changed for any other group that breaks the law, and I'm only against the turd disturbers in the Native groups.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie I hope people are focused on the people disturbing the sh!t and not the whole people in general, as what I am reading. Imagine the same happenning to the people of your culture.

I can understand where you're comming from, but its the people disturbing the shit that create the stereotypes in the first place. My disatisfaction is with them, and not the whole race in general.

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